<p>competitive? i don’t think so…more like scared, and thus, cautious. think about it. </p>
<p>ps: THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. your pro AA yet you question if it’s legal or not…your one confused duck.</p>
<p>I am… what you’re saying still doesn’t make sense, you still have the reading comprehension of a 5th grader, and you’re still a racist. I’m already in college, and I don’t feel I was harmed by Affirmative Action. I also don’t think it will impede me for grad school or the career search. </p>
<p>Negating the societal gap between races and enhancing the human capital of the nation is an absolute good. Though it is the right thing to do, it may not be just. But it is still the right thing.</p>
<p>the right thing to do is always just. like i said, you’re really confused. that made no sense at all " though it is the right thing to do, it may not be just". you must be tired, b/c now your letting anything come out of your mouth…i suggest going to bed.</p>
<p>arbiter, do you go to Northwestern?</p>
<p>No, the right thing to do is not always just. It would be unjust to take all the money from the rich and give it to the poor- the rich have earned, to some extent, the privileges they enjoy, and while the poor have done nothing to deserve their unfortunate lot, it wouldn’t be fair to penalize others for no reason, even if it is a general good for society.</p>
<p>YOU IDIOT…if it’s unjust, then it’s not the right thing to do…do you go to a community college.</p>
<p>let me break it down into simpler terms, b/c you are obviously kind of slow…</p>
<p>UNJUST = NOT RIGHT THING TO DO…and i have the reading comp. of a 5th grader?..at least i can understand basic logic.</p>
<p>Nice ad-hominem there. Might want to calm down.</p>
<p>Right, adj.
-in conformity with fact, reason, truth, or some standard or principle; correct: the right solution; the right answer.</p>
<p>Just, adj.
-guided by truth, reason, justice, and fairness: We hope to be just in our understanding of such difficult situations.</p>
<p>okay, you obviously can’t seem to grasp this simple concept.</p>
<p>plz, someone tell me if this makes sense…</p>
<p>" this is unjust, but it is the right thing to do"…i don’t know, maybe i’m the idiot (NOT), someone, please explain to me how that works. or tell arbiter213 that he makes no sense, and that a definition still doesn’t bolster this outrageously redundant comment.</p>
<p>The text you quoted appears nowhere in anything I’ve written…</p>
<p>also, your example about taking money from the rich didn’t make any sense…please explain to me how it is right to take money from the rich…forget about the unjust part, just tell me how it’s right…YOU CAN’T.
despite your little definition, just and right ARE THE SAME THING.</p>
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<p>Ok, I think my work here is done. You’ve illustrated my point.</p>
<p>that’s right, give up. atleast you realized your defeat. i guess your just not “competitive” enough. but it’s good your realized you were wrong.</p>
<p>What he means is that affirmative action is not “fair” (in that it doesn’t reward merit) but it is the right thing to do as it is attempting to alleviate a societal problem.</p>
<p>I will bring up an example from medicine, the field I am going into. The number one reason cited by the AAMC and medical schools for practicing affirmative action is that, based on surveys, patients have indicated they trust doctors more who are the same race as themselves. This is obviously prejudice to trust or not trust someone simply based on the way they look and affirmative action directly feeds their bias. HOWEVER, providing them with minority doctors is the only way to get minority patients to seek help and to follow the doctor’s orders. </p>
<p>So, is it fair that Asian or White premeds get passed over in favor of URMs with lower scores simply because the patients themselves are prejudiced? Is it fair that a premed gets a boost in admissions just because of his looks? No. </p>
<p>But to solve the problem of healthcare disparities, of coaxing minority patients into the hospital, of getting them to trust their doctors and follow their prescriptions, we have no solution but to provide them with what they want: a doctor who has the same skin color as themselves.</p>
<p>Personally, I think we should be encouraging cross-cultural trust and exposing minority patients to doctors who are from other cultures so that they can see that people from other races are trustworthy too, but I guess the AAMC disagrees :/</p>
<p>I don’t understand why you want these articles. Are you trying to prove that minorities don’t belong in college? Your request is extremely ambiguous.</p>
<p>just curiously are there any people supporting AA who are not URMs??</p>
<p>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
yes, absolutely.</p>
<p>“Personally, I think we should be encouraging cross-cultural trust and exposing minority patients to doctors who are from other cultures”</p>
<p>I prefer having a doctor that is also Latino like myself, or at least a minority. I feel I can trust them more for some reason, probably since I’ve been growing up around them most of my life, but it’s not like I’ll have a fit if I don’t get a minority doctor.</p>
<p>“year for whom affirmative action was involved did not have socioeconomic privilege; those that did have privilege were as stellar as any white, latino, or asian american students that had the same privilege (educationally, financially, for example). there seems to be this pervasive attitude on cc that the black and latino kids getting into top institutions who have some kind of socioeconomic privilege aren’t up to par with their white and asian american peers, and that simply is not the case. and, regardless, many of these students are still dealing with the reality that discrimination and prejudice are far more pervasive in our nation’s schools than most people care to admit. the social and psychological effects this has on these students cannot be ignored! economic privilege does not make discrimination, prejudice, and racism dissappear!”</p>
<p>Amen to that, but of course everyone’s just going to ignore you because it’s always the colored kid’s fault that someone doesn’t get into their college of choice.</p>
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<p>Who determines “right” and who determines “just?”</p>
<p>wow, i think this argument is almost reaching a consensus <em>gasp</em></p>
<p>AA is not necessarily “fair” in all respects, but it is “right”. </p>
<p>hmmm interesting.</p>
<p>and fabrizio, to those black applicants you talk about who want to be treated “equally”, they should just not check their race box, instead of attempting to abolish the benefit to all urms.</p>