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Another president named Bill Clinton? Oh yea, he was too busy tiddling his aides.</p>
<p>This war could have been prevented during the Clinton administration if that administration wasn’t so focused on covering up scandals & taking credit for the economic boom that was caused by all the Republican reforms under Reagan & Bush Sr.</p>
<p>The Senate was not given accurate and true information…he lied…he twisted information. even Powell is embarassed</p>
<p>And talk about insult- when Bush made that video jokigly looking for weapons of mass destruction in his office…that was disgraceful and a slap in the face of the troops</p>
<p>We hold Cindy Sheehan to higher standards than we do the President of the United States.</p>
<p>What can I say?</p>
<p>She, as a private citizen has the right and the responsiblity to ask why we are at war. and what is the noble cause her son gave his life for…</p>
<p>I still haven’t heard the answer.</p>
<p>And, for those that are talking about no draft, if it wasn’t for people like my Mom and CIndy, there would be a draft, and you could be over in Iraq right now. Unless you could use your family connections and get out of it.</p>
<p>And if this war is so noble, how come there are none, none of the people at the House and Senate, none of their family members are over there.</p>
<p>And the one that did go over and ran for office was vilified by REPUBLICANS he was running against.</p>
<p>And, if you want to honor the troops- take care of them- don’t use depleted uranium bullets, don’t force them into bankruptcy, be honest with them and with us, get them medical treatment and don’t hide there coffins from us</p>
<p>CIndy is a private citizens who is mad. I am mad. </p>
<p>Why do we hold her to higher standards than the President of the United States?</p>
<p>I’d like to see some facts here that Bush “lied.” Your left winged opinions don’t count. I want concrete printed facts that PROVE he lied. You haven’t shown any so far. You say Bush has caused more terror, lets see some facts. There are facts that Cindy has helped promote people who support terror. </p>
<p>I am in no way a big fan of Bush. I highly disagree with his stance on gay marriage and teaching intelligent design. I also think the no child left behind is a horrible policy. The biggest mistake we made with Iraq was not taking care of it sooner, and by sooner I mean either in Bush Sr., Clinton, or beginning of W’s term.</p>
<p>She has helped promote people who support terror? By making a few statements? </p>
<p>She is held to a higher standard than the President.</p>
<p>Left wing opinions? So instead of just calling them opinions, you must label them.</p>
<p>D67, Where to begin.
Do you remember in 2000 he said he was a uniter not a divider: “I have no stake in the bitter arguments of the last few years. I want to change the tone of Washington to one of civility and respect,”</p>
<p>“The president has been a divider, not a unifier,” says Thomas Mann of the Brookings Institute. “The division is entirely partisan. There is no trust. No willingness to work together at all. The president has encouraged that.”
<a href=“http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/31/eveningnews/main639848.shtml[/url]”>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/31/eveningnews/main639848.shtml</a></p>
<p>George W. Bush, according to Knight-Ridder News Service, has managed to keep only 46 percent of his campaign 2000 promises. This record of not following through is particularly poor when you consider that he’s been working with a Republican-led Congress for four years.
Consider the recent highway bill ladened with pork against his promise to end pork-barrel spending by appointing a bipartisan commission to investigate pork…commission never formed.
And Bush has not vetoed a single spending bill coming out of Congress.
<a href=“thehccrusader.com”>thehccrusader.com;
<p>But you were more interested in War related lies…so I googled …</p>
<p>" results about 5,900,000 for Bush and war lies"</p>
<p>A description of the war as told through lies
<a href=“Page not found | Harper's Magazine”>Page not found | Harper's Magazine;
<p>40 Administrative lies
<a href=“http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1182/article11417.asp[/url]”>http://www.citypages.com/databank/24/1182/article11417.asp</a></p>
<p>Videotape, February 8, 2004):
MR. TIM RUSSERT: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?
PRES. BUSH: They’re not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I am very aware of this basic law they’re writing. They’re not going to develop that, because right here in the Oval Office, I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al-Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.</p>
<p>How close to the truth this is will be revealed this week, I am betting it was a lie.</p>
<p>Thank you Mr. B…</p>
<p>It was not sex…</p>
<p>It was not a lie about going to war…</p>
<p>Why do you keep bringing up Clinton? Who’s defending him here? He had a ton of faults. I don’t think that his shenanigans took up so much time that he couldn’t handle his job, but OTOH, he had to spend too much time dealing with them because of the witchhunt, and for that I blame him, along with the witch-hunters. He could’ve done better. He made mistakes. He probably should’ve resigned and let someone not compromised take the lead. But that memo went to Bush. Are you willing to admit he made mistakes?</p>
<p>Mr. B, the thing about Bush not being a unifier is an OPINION of someone. He didn’t lie about anything…</p>
<p>Searching on google for bush lies is not evidence…I can find over a million results for “the holocaust never happened,” does that make it true too?</p>
<p>Your other articles are also opinion pieces, and have no fact.</p>
<p>Please post a quote from president Bush, and print a quote that shows it was evident he was providing false information. How did he lie about going to war? Show me what his initial reasoning was in quotes, and show me how he denies that now in quotes. Good luck with that.</p>
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<p>I’m tired of staying silent about this. </p>
<p>You know what? All but the most zealous of the * promotor fidei * of the Republican party would be willing to say, “Hey, we made a mistake. We went into Iraq for the wrong reasons, and we’ve made mistakes while we were in Iraq. Our intelligence was screwy, and yes, we’re now paying the price and biting the bullet.” </p>
<p>I can understand why the President cannot make the same admission, however. </p>
<p>Nevertheless, the reasons we went and engaged the Republic of Iraq through a measure of force were proved to be totally frivolous. At worst, it is a conspiracy of criminal proportions, a mass coverup in order to allow for the profiteering of American corporations. At best, however, and this I believe is the more believable of the two, this was all an honest mistake, during the hectic aftermath of the September 11 attacks, we wanted to believe that the terrorists were there… and that engaging them in Iraq would bring an end to al-Qaeda and at least put some of our fears concerning WMD to rest. </p>
<p>Then again, I don’t believe some of the conspiracy theories running around, about how the Bush administration “let” September 11 happen as justification for the invasion of Iraq. Perhaps the utilization of Occam’s razor is best here, as we are overcomplicating the issue. </p>
<p>To put it bluntly, we entered into Iraq for different reasons than why we are there now. We went in looking for weapons of mass destruction, and now, in an effort to repair the damage done to the infrastructure of the nation of Iraq, we must stay to buttress an existing government so that the country does not fall to total anarchy. In essence, we must repair the damage we ourselves made in a hasty engagement made during a state of paranoia, and we cannot afford to let exist another bastion of terrorism, for that is what Iraq will be if we do not complete the task of solidifying the Iraqi government. </p>
<p>Although you cannot expel the idea of Iraq succumbing to the hands of extremists completely, we must remain in Iraq until we are reasonably assured that the nation will not fall into terrorist hands. And as a matter of will, and as a matter of dignity – we must finish what we started, and we must not fall prey to the antics of terrorists looking to win an ideological battle against freedom and democracy. Freedom and democracy cannot co-exist with extremism and terrorism, and because of the threat that our democracy imposes against those two malignant factions of society, they vehemently oppose us as a matter of ideological principle. It all trickles down to the basic struggle of power, and in the end, freedom cannot lose.</p>
<p>Frankly, I don’t think Bush ever lied, and I wish he did, but I don’t think he is capable of it. I paid good money for those lies, and I expect it to be done well.</p>
<p>Now, Powell, that’s another matter.</p>
<p>I already stated earlier, WMD does not count as a lie. First off, I firmly believe Iraq had WMDs. We gave them several months to get rid of them, and I believe they did. We have found PLENTY of weapons, just not nuclear weapons. </p>
<p>Not only that, but our intelligence as well as other country’s intelligence also pointed to the fact Iraq had WMDs. If you believe Iraq never had the WMDs, you can say Bush was misinformed, but that is far from a lie. A lie would be if he knew Iraq didn’t have WMDs, and he said they did anyway.</p>
<p>It is hard to prove something to a person who is enthusiastically willing to deceive himself. I think I adequately documented my case.<br>
For the record, this is what an informed opinion looks like:
"Here is the verdict of Gregory Thielman, the recently retired head of the State Department’s intelligence office: “I believe the Bush administration did not provide an accurate picture to the American people of the military threat posed by Iraq. This administration has had a faith-based intelligence attitude–we know the answers, give us the intelligence to support those answers.” Elsewhere he has been quoted as saying, “The principal reasons that Americans did not understand the nature of the Iraqi threat in my view was the failure of senior administration officials to speak honestly about what the intelligence showed.”
This is what a mistatement (white lie) looks like:
on June 1(the President) told reporters, “For those who say we haven’t found the banned manufacturing devices or banned weapons, they’re wrong, we found them.” </p>
<p>And this is what a big lie looks like: “Mission Accomplished”</p>
<p>tlaktan, you are succumbing to the simplistic view as presented by the left. There were many more reasons for the war than just stockpiles of WMD. To say that that was the only reason is not supported by facts. Look at the resolution passed by a majority of Congress (including John Kerry and John Edwards) for just a partial list of the reasons. </p>
<p>Those who say that the administration lied about the WMD are guilty of mallicious historical revisionism. Notice how when challenged to cite the specific lies that they can’t.</p>
<p>Exactly funding father. No one can show any info that says Bush lied. It is all opinion based on no fact. If you think Iraq was fine and dandy before we stepped in, you are mistaking. Go over to Iraq and talk to any of the people who Saddam tortured, and I’m sure they can tell you that things weren’t just fine. Further, Iraq blatantly disreguarded the UN by not letting weapons inspectors in. Fundingfather is right, you guys try to simplify a complex issue. </p>
<p>Is not letting the UN weapon inspectors into Iraq, an oppressive regime that harbors terrorists, commits genocide, and a regime that may invade another mideast country (like Kuwait), not a good enough reason? What more do you want.</p>
<p>But we went to war for WMD… or did he lie to us then? The other reasons- freedom, democracy were afterthoughts. I am not stupid nor simplistic, I am just not a member of the Cult of Bush, who is omnipotent</p>
<p>There are people in this country who are or have been misled, and there are people who thrive on misleading. The President and his administration planned to attack Iraq and looked to 9-11 as their opportunity. Unfortunately the Democrats and Republicans in congress were for the most part too spineless to risk their re-elections over challenging the President. As the political acceptability of challenging the President’s lack of leadership and integrety grows more and more politicians from both sides of the aisle will speak out against this wasteful war.</p>
<p>Some posters, will never admit to how they were deceived because they would have to admit they were wrong. This is one area where this President leads…he never admits to being wrong even when it means a thousand american lives. So the lies continue as he hides behind the flag. How many Americans died or were hurt since he urged the enemy to “bring it on.”</p>
<p>Yes Iraq was pretty screwed up before we went to war. But guess what, whether its a week or ten years, everything will fall apart when we leave. These people have been fighting for God knows how long, theyve been holding grudges for generations. It is the height of arrogance to think we could waltz in and end the blood feuds by playing peacekeeper for a few years. There are only two ways the fighting will stop, either we kill massive numbers of Iraqis and become the oppressive empire they accuse us of being, or they decide to stop of their own volition.</p>
<p>ANd why would they stop? Getting a constitution won’t do it…</p>
<p>And Mr. B, I admit originally I was pro war. Of course I was in nineth grade, knew nothing of politics, and nothing of Iraq.</p>