Anybody going to a Cindy Sheehan vigil tomorrow night?

<p>citygirlsmom, I think it is very offensive to try to attack people that are pro war by calling them cowards because their kids don’t enlist. I have news for you, everyone has a right to do what they want. You can believe in war without enlisting. You act as if no war supporter enlists. I have news for you, the majority of our military is pro war, so your logic goes out the window. I for one am pro war, and I for one will be in the military, so your assumptions are completely wrong. </p>

<p>Bush did talk to her already. Should he start making special meetings for every raving lunatic who starts a commotion? I think the president has more important things to attend to. Don’t even bother trying to make a comment about him being on vacation, because I’ve explained several times that he works while he is on vacation too.</p>

<p>CGM, does your logic apply to taxes as well? That is, those who want higher taxes should be the ones who pay them? Didn’t think so.</p>

<p>Cindy Sheehan is over, Natalee Holloway is over, the missing groom is over. They have all had their 15 minutes of fame. It is all about the Katrina now.</p>

<p>“The survey found that 52 percent of the public says Bush should talk to Sheehan, who has repeatedly asked for a meeting with the president, while 46 percent said he should not. Fifty-three percent support what she is doing while 42 percent oppose her actions.”</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3332299[/url]”>http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/politics/3332299&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>At least now the President is talking about why we are really there…oil, black gold, texas tea, eventually he will mention family vendettas as well. The oil was safer from terrorists three years ago than it is now…what does that say about his plan. Before you go there, Iraq did not bomb the world trade center…</p>

<p>Did you read the last two sentences in your article? Her protest is actually backfiring and she is not gaining support as you have previously argued. 79% of those surveyed said that your hero’s actions have had no impact on how they view the Iraq war. Only 9% of those surveyed said that her protest has helped turn them against the war, while 10% said that her actions have actually made them MORE PRO-WAR.</p>

<p>That may explain why Code Pinko, Unabletomoveon.org, and others are beginning to scale back their support. They see the handwriting on the wall. Bandit hit the nail on the head. Time’s up - the 15 minutes are over.</p>

<p>It didn’t say it was backfiring, it said it was engaging people on both sides</p>

<p>browninfall, are your kids all signed up and ready to go over there since you support the war? </p>

<p>And its not over, it will be shown that because of all the resources in Iraq- supplies, troops, etc, questions will be asked</p>

<p>And now the war is about oil, who would have thunk it</p>

<p>And anyone wanna talk about gas prices? Are the oil companies sacrificing anything?</p>

<p>Cindy Sheehan did not convince me the war was wrong…I was expecting this war as soon as George Bush became the leading republican candidate. It seems to me that a number of people on Abuzz another web forum predicted this.</p>

<p>If what I heard on the radio a minute ago is true, and I hope it is not…money to strengthen the levies in New Orleans was rerouted to Iraq along with a substantial amount of equipment that they need…and that a request to get some of this back was published in the paper earlier this summer (Times Picyune, I think they said) because of a fear that flooding would happen with a hurricane. Some of these catastrophe down there will be a result of this war effort. Not good… not good, at all.</p>

<p>But, don’t we all feel so much more secure now? And I have read the same thing, from several sources</p>

<p>It’s backfiring. Rasmussen shows that 38% of the American people have a negative view of her while only 35% have a positive one. Six weeks ago no more than a handful of people knew who she was. Now over a third of the country thinks that she’s loony tunes. Can you imagine that? Going from a handful of people who think she’s a moonbat (i.e. husband, other relatives, etc.) to over 100 million people in six short weeks. That takes real work.</p>

<p>As it relates to your question regarding my adult children, do you ever read the answers to the questions you pose? What part of my previous answer to this same question don’t you understand? I don’t know what goes on in your family, but my adult children get to make their own choices about what they want to do in life. I thought that our family was fairly typical in that regard. Do you practice something different in your family?</p>

<p>A negative view = looney tunes = so I guess when over 50% of Americans have a negative view of how Bush is doing, he is looney tunes and a moonbat as well- works for me</p>

<p>And a moonbat, was that how they phrased the question?</p>

<p>I think a mom that says it would be fine if her sons died in Iraq for the noble cause, which as of yesterday was protecting oil, is looney tunes.</p>

<p>But would you want them to make that decision to go? Of course you can’t decide for them, but would you back them 100% if they signed up tomorrow? </p>

<p>So, I ask again, would you want your kids there? Simple question. I would not want my Ds there, I would not want my H there, I would not want my Nephew there…so do you want your family there?</p>

<p>And I am remembering incorrectly, but when we lefties said this war was for oil, we were told we were looney tunes, as well, yet, yesterday, the President said it was to protect the oil…</p>

<p>Having been on vacation last week (I know…just like the president) I had initially missed this very droll George Will column, which reminds me of so many of my favorite CC correspondents. My favorite part envisioned the meeting, over tea, between President Bush and the mother of Casey Sheehan:</p>

<p>He: “Cream and sugar?”
She: “Yes please, filth-spewer.”</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082401835.html[/url]”>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/24/AR2005082401835.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-ibush31.html[/url]”>http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-ibush31.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Yeah, BinLaden is going to get that oil, and didn’t the President at one point tell us he really didn’t think about him much…</p>

<p>So its a good thing we got BinLaden…no wait…</p>

<p>Nobody in their right mind “wants” there loved one’s there; just like no one wanted there loved ones at Normandy or Iwo Jima. However, there is a belief amongst many that the words of JFK are true:

It seems as if Cindy (and you) have forgotten this.</p>

<p>No, we have not forgetton that…its just sometimes our country is wrong in what they ask us to do, and this war is wrong</p>

<p>And, I find it interesting that it is now, this week, to protect the oil…</p>

<p>With the defense manufacturers reaping record profits and Haliburton too, its a good thing they have given so much to our country as well</p>

<p>And how much are we paying the mercenaries over there?</p>

<p>And Cindy is doing exactly what an person in a democracy should be doing…asking questions</p>

<p>By the way, what is that noble cause again? Still waiting…</p>

<p>OK, we’ll try it again. As the good father just noted, of course no one “wants” their children there. However, as I have previously pointed out to you, my daughter was recruited by the U.S. Naval Academy. I ENCOURAGED her to give it serious consideration. She chose not to. Does that help you understand what I would do if one of mine said that they wanted to serve their country in the military?</p>

<p>I have two sons, 16 & 17. I would not want them to join the military or any reserves. I also would not want them to be policemen or firemen or race car drivers or astronauts or fishermen or coalminers or any number of other jobs. Many occupations have inherent dangers. Anyone who joins any branch of the military (or many other occupations) must realize that there is a possibility of work related injuries or death even in peaceful times (how many have died in training accidents?) The simple fact that these occupations (and many more) are not ones I would choose for my sons does not mean that I wouldn’t fully support them if these were the choices they made. I am, hopefully, raising my sons to be fully functioning adults capable of choosing their own career paths and as long as they don’t choose anything illegal I will be completely supportive of their choices because their lives belong to them. </p>

<p>On another note, after the BRAC vote the local base is slated for closure. This will be devastating to the community at least for the short term. There is a Blue Angles show planned in a few weeks at the base. The last airshow was cancelled due to 9/11. This is something that many people around here really enjoy seeing. It’s been six years since the last one and there may never be another due to the base’s planned closing. We know that this is a recruiting tool and still manage to enjoy the show. Cindy Sheehan is planning to protest at the show.</p>

<p>What was the noble cause…</p>

<p>Sorry I missed it about the Academy…well then I guess you would be okay if she enlisted in a unit with the specific intention of going to Iraq then, that is standing up for what you believe in</p>

<p>But, still what is the cause we are fighting for that you support so much? </p>

<p>And that it would be okay to die for…freedom, well, democracy, well, peace, well, to keep terrorists out, well, oil, well…</p>

<p>And serving in the military and defending our country is a noble cause, I respect those that do, but still, what noble cause did Cindy’s son die for. I just wish someone would tell me.</p>

<p>And you do know, yesterday, the president did say it was oil.</p>

<p>And browninfall, if the President has 53% disapproval rating (and he does), is he a moonbat…just checking</p>

<p>I’m curious, I know that you hate our President but why the gratuitous swipe at our military? Your true colors are showing. All this talk from the Left that we support the troops, we just don’t like the war. Mercenaries…wow…so that’s how you view those who defend our country.</p>