<p>Actually, you gave the names of the people who are probably being honest about their views in the mid east…the phony supporters don’t let their opinion go public. My thought goes back to when I was an active Republican and friends with Reagan staffers…their interest in the Jewish community was primarily money…if you remember they were giving weapons to certain mideastern countries all through the Reagan
Bush years. You don’t think they knew that some of those made it back to Isreal soil? It’s my opinion, but I think the most honest politicians on this issue are the New York Jewish pols who support from the soul…and those who argue we should reduce aid, not the ones who reluctantly give the least they can to make the most gain from it.</p>
<p>Because you brought in the point that David Duke supported Cindy, hence, we should no support her, so, by inference, if a white supremist supports Bush, you should not support him…</p>
<p>And you don’t think Bush has some supporters on the fringe? My goodness…</p>
<p>Many public people are supported by those on the fringe, its the nature of the beast, so to make that a deal breaker, well, Bush should lose a lot of supporters then. And Bush is relelvant because its an example of what you are saying. If a wacko supports someone you agree with, we are to take away our support? Bush has plenty of wacko supporters as well. As did Clinton, Cheney, Gore…its a wacko world and everyone wants their 15 minutes</p>
<p>CGM,
Yet again you miss a point the size of a tractor-trailer. Even a grieving mother can be a buffoon. I sympathize with Cindy Sheehan in her loss, but words have consequences, and when one ill-advisedly scapegoats Israel in one’s anti-George W. Bush spectacle, one then has to accept the consequences of attracting miscreant Jew-baiters such as David Duke, who are naturally inclined to such intemperate rhetoric.</p>
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Mr. B, please decipher that gobbledygook, which sounds disturbingly similar to the kind of twisted garbage spewed by Mr. Duke.</p>
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yup … subtract the sympathy that Cindy hides behind and what you have left is a person who is for the most part wacko; and she has already got more than her 15 minutes. In her mind she believes that she will be in history books. That sort of tells you what is motivating her.</p>
<p>No what I got was that if a fringe person supports someone I support, I should wonder. Well, Bush has lots of fringe supporters, do you wonder?</p>
<p>Mr. B</p>
<p>If it’s all about money, then the Republicans are stupider than you think they are. Support for Israel isn’t going to fill up the coffers from the Jewish community. Barely 25% of Jews who vote pull the Republican lever and financial support from the Jewish community is significantly skewed towards Democrats and other assorted Left wingers.</p>
<p>On the David Duke matter, I think that support for your hero should be questioned because of the reason David Duke supports here. It’s not because she may or may not support subsidies to farmers, or raising or not raising the minimum wage, but rather it’s due to the fact that his beliefs are practically identical to hers in the matter of U.S foreign policy and the so-called neoconservative agenda.</p>
<p>In a letter to Nightline she wrote “Yes my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by George W. Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda…”</p>
<p>On David Duke’s website you can read the following words of David Duke “From the beginning, this was was orchestrated from top to bottom by Jewish Neocons that saw the war as one for Israel’s strategic objectives. They ramped up the war through Jews such as Perle and Wolfowitz, the false intelligence through CIA anaylst Stuart Cohen and by Israel’s Mossad, and had a compliant Jewish dominated media to cheer on the war.”</p>
<p>See any similarities. Now some have argued that your hero didn’t actually write the letter to Nightline, but that it was written by one of the many PR folks who surround her. Let’s assume even that that’s true. Who the heck is she surrounding herself with then? It looks to me like David Duke could be one of her advisors. David Duke is a known Jew basher. He and your hero think exactly alike when it comes to neocons and Israel. That should cause you concern.</p>
<p>browninfall, I yeild to your expertise on what the christian right is writing about…I have never even seen the web site, it doesn’t surprise me that he says these things and a number of other things I don’t support. Do I think Israel plays into this mess…of course…it is one of the ways we are painted as bad guys in many mideastern countries. Do I think this war is the result of our support (real or imagined) for Israel, no…I think it is about oil…(which I suspect is also part of why our country supports Isreal.) You can try to shake David Duke off onto the left…but we know which side of the political spectrum he is on and so do you. At least we are approaching some type of understanding…the number of people disaproving of this war has grown on all sides of the political spectrum.</p>
<p>I think that I was just able to show you what side of the political spectrum he’s on. His words and Cindy Sheehan’s words are pretty much interchangeable. Maybe I’m missing something but I think that means that he’s on her side of the political spectrum. Your hero and David Duke are soulmates.</p>
<p>You can add Lynne Stewart to that mix too. I can’t believe anyone would support these people. </p>
<p>Mr. B, you may want to look up some more about Israel. Israel has practically no oil. However they do have big pharmaceutical, biotechnology, aeronautics, and computer engineering fields. Our economy and most of the rest of the civilized world depends on Israel for a lot of things.</p>
<p>Cindy Sheehan didn’t write that letter. It was forged in her name. She has repudiated its contents.</p>
<p>Brown, the merits of you argument continue to slide, I am sorry you are so confused…I understand you are upset that Israel is returning property it took and you are upset. David Duke and you seem to think Israel is the center of this mess. As I have stated earlier, I think it is oil and the Bush Administration that is responsible for this terrible crises.</p>
<p>Thank you for being sorry. On another matter, I mean no disrespect nor do I mean to suggest anything but every time I see your handle (moniker, name, whatever) I can’t stop thinking of the old Frank Sinatra tune…Mister B…double O, Z, E.</p>
<p>I suspected you thought of that often…your debate skills need some work…you have clearly lost this one. Cindy Sheehan continues to gain support. George Bush and The Dukes of oil slipping…</p>
<p>What is it about those of you on the Left…no sense of humor. You need to lighten up a bit. </p>
<p>You’re as nutty as your hero is if you think that she’s gaining support. That’s why I mentioned earlier that there’s talk of her being a Karl Rove plant. She’s not helping herself with the staged show she’s putting on. Karl Rove couldn’t have done this any beter.</p>
<p>The only ones showing support are the kooks on the far left. Where’s the mainstream of the Democratic Party (now there’s an oxymoron)? They won’t touch her with a ten foot pole. Can you imagine the mileage the Republicans would get if they were able to put advertising on prior to the next election showing your hero in an embrace with Hillary, Biden, Edwards or Kerry?</p>
<p>Face it, she’s persona non grata to anyone in your party who has a lick of sense. Cindy Sheehan…the face of Noam Chomsky and David Duke.</p>
<p>My God, the power you give Karl Rove…! Bet you think he sent Katrina to the gulf coast too.</p>
<p>Bush gives new reason for Iraq - protect the oil</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war/[/url]”>http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2005/08/31/bush_gives_new_reason_for_iraq_war/</a></p>
<p>Keeping the world’s third largest known oil reserves out of the hands of terrorists sounds like a good idea to me.</p>
<p>But we let the terrorists in…</p>
<p>And as akook on the left that doesn’t want more kids to die…I am proud And are you war supporters kids signed up yet?</p>
<p>It seems not</p>
<p>THey are all the right age, so sign them up…and if they aren’t signing up, why not…seriouslly, why aren’t they going over to Iraq to guard the oil right now</p>
<p>And a majority of AMericans think Bush should have talked to her</p>
<p>Protection of the Mid-East oil supply has been the nation’s policy since the Carter Doctrine back in the 70’s.</p>