Anyone else still thinking about Miley?

[alh]

<p>[Why</a> you should pay attention to the Lily Allen?Miley Cyrus feminist feud - The Week](<a href=“http://theweek.com/article/index/252883/why-you-should-pay-attention-to-the-lily-allenmiley-cyrus-feminist-feud]Why”>http://theweek.com/article/index/252883/why-you-should-pay-attention-to-the-lily-allenmiley-cyrus-feminist-feud)</p>

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The truth is that neither can claim the feminist crown because there isn’t a single way to express feminism. Moreover, each of their approaches is problematic. As much as Allen is encouraging women to break away from body pressures and sexual objectifications, she’s implicitly shaming women who do choose to express themselves in such a way. Meanwhile, as much as Cyrus thinks she’s breaking the pop rules for women, she’s still pushing a heightened focus on sexuality that encourages and pressures women to do the same.</p>

<p>And while it may seem silly to tease out each of these artists’ feminist nuances, just because they’re not Gloria Steinem and Germaine Greer doesn’t mean they do not provide insight into modern feminist discussion.

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<p>I like the idea of comparing Lena Dunham, too.</p>

[emilybee]

<p>Still thinking of her?</p>

[shellz]

<p>Who? 10 char</p>

[alh]

<p>:p…</p>

[Consolation]

<p>Miley Cyrus is the equivalent of a Girls Gone Wild video IMHO.</p>

<p>Lady GaGa is a feminist.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>I like her new album, Bangerz. </p>

<p>Viva la Miley!</p>

[Iron_Maiden_1]

<p>Still? I’ve never thought about her for one second. Talentless, autotune hack.</p>

[mini]

<p>No. (10 char)</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>She is talented.</p>

[alh]

<p>Obviously my thread title should have been:</p>

<p>Is Miley a feminist?</p>

<p>Consolation: How are you comparing her to Gaga? What are the differences? Why is Gaga a feminist? Are the girls in the Girls Gone Wild videos ever feminists?</p>

[argbargy]

<p>The only interesting thing about this feud is who will get involuntarily committed first. </p>

<p>That was the bizarre part of Miley taunting Sinead over mental health. She might as well taunt Amy Weinhouse because to everyone else the parallel of “cant stop/wont stop” is apparent.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>Sure, she can be considered a feminist, but what she needs to do is stop taking all the credit for other peoples work and claiming to be the "biggest feminist out there. </p>

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Meanwhile, Cyrus told BBC Radio 1’s Newsbeat, “I feel like I’m one of the biggest feminists in the world because I tell women to not be scared of anything.” She also told Cosmopolitan U.K., “I’m a feminist in the way that I’m really empowering to women. I’m loud and funny and not typically beautiful.”

No, Miley. You are not one of the biggest feminists out there, at least not currently.</p>

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Meanwhile, as much as Cyrus thinks she’s breaking the pop rules for women, she’s still pushing a heightened focus on sexuality that encourages and pressures women to do the same.

Isn’t any feminist movement “encouraging” and “pressuring” women to do something? But, shoot, if I want to twerk, I’ll twerk. If I then want to go to a coffee shop book reading, I will.</p>

[poetgrl]

<p>Miley Cyrus bores me. I ended up having this conversation with my 19 year old daughter after the last thread. </p>

<p>We agreed in the end that both Pink and GaGa are feminists. Miley and Britney are just tools of the trade.</p>

[alh]

<p>I adore Pink. NO question in my mind about her. Maybe that should be the thread.</p>

<p>Do you have time to summarize the Pink/GaGA vs Miley/Britney conversation.</p>

[romanigypsyeyes]

<p>Absolutely agree about Pink. I have mixed feelings about GaGa and my jury is still out. </p>

<p>I think Miley needs help she’ll never get.</p>

[Niquii77]

<p>She does need help. She lost the “love of her life” and is experiencing an extreme change in those who surround her. She’s not around the best crowd. She’s trying to find herself and, how she currently expresses herself to the world is who she’s see herself as. Miley is aware that she may change in the near future. </p>

<p>She needs help. I don’t think it is a mean thing to say. It is true.</p>

[interesteddad]

<p>I must confess that I never think about Miley. I do, however, have one Miley Cyrus song on my iPod. </p>

<p>[Miley</a> Cyrus featuring Johnzo West - “You’re Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go” - YouTube](<a href=“Miley Cyrus featuring Johnzo West - "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go" - YouTube”>Miley Cyrus featuring Johnzo West - "You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go" - YouTube)</p>

[alh]

<p>Does “needing help” mean someone isn’t a feminist? Because I have really always thought of Plath and Woolf as feminists. And probably Joplin.</p>

[Niquii77]

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Does “needing help” mean someone isn’t a feminist?

No…</p>

<p>Miley has talent. To say so would be lying to yourself.
[Miley</a> Cyrus - The Backyard Sessions - “Jolene” - YouTube](<a href=“http://youtu.be/wOwblaKmyVw]Miley”>http://youtu.be/wOwblaKmyVw)</p>

[electronblue]

<p>I will give her credit for coming out with what is probably the song of the year, in the midst of a lot of hate. Wrecking Ball got Blurred Lines off your radio station, can we thank her for that?</p>