APPLICATIONS GROWTH Class of 2013

<p>Tulane will accept a bunch of those people, and some of them will show up. That’s the only “true desire to attend the school” that matters.</p>

<p>Agreed, fireflyscout. Add to that the fact that Tulane changed their loan/grant policy this year (if memory serves me correctly, families with incomes below $75K will have all grant, no loan FA) And Tulane is <em>very</em> generous with their merit scholarship and community service scholarship money. In-state students are also eligible for a State Legislative scholarship as well (I forget the exact name of the scholarship)</p>

<p>Good for Tulane! While it’s true that the combination of an easy (or free) application and a relentless marketing campaign paid dividends, it remains that Tulane was hot before Katrina. In Texas, Tulane is on almost everyone’s list, especially the many families who are afraid to be left out by the very popular UT at Austin or Texas A&M as well as other popular schools such as SMU or TCU. Add the generous financial aid or the “leave your state” lure, and you have a powerful combination on your hand, not to mention being part of history. </p>

<p>On a different subject, NOLA is also extremely popular in the education circles, as the the quasi destruction of its school system (a true blessing and a giant silver lining for NOLA) has opened the doors to many experiments and one of the greatest opportunities to evaluate different concepts without having to fight the well-ingrained naysaying attitudes. </p>

<p>Now, if the city could only clean up their act by toning down the debauchery of Mardi Gras and punting “reunions” such as the Southern Decadence. And, Tulane sharing their Common Data Set. Less skin transparency and more data would be nice. Oops, that is way too much to ask for. Laissez les bons temps rouler! :D</p>

<p>I’m a big fan of Scott Cowen, Tulane’s Prez. Out of the gazillions of colleges I’ve toured, he is the only Prez that speaks at Prospie’s Day and hangs around to visit with parents after.</p>

<p>Xig,
If you figure out how to tone down Mardi Gras raunch, short of another devastating hurricane, let us know! Not sure, though, if NOLA wants to tone it down or not. TOugh call…</p>

<p>Interesting point about the "fresh slate"opportunity with the education system there. Too bad they can’t do the same with the police dept. Apparently a study was done to see how to help clean up the corrupt system. The recommendation came back to just blow it up and start over!</p>

<p>The Wesleyan president reports that over 10,000 applications have been received, representing a 20% increase over last year.</p>

<ul>
<li>just reporting on top national universities & LACS, per USNews lists</li>
<li>“~” means the count is projected or incomplete, or I am not sure its final</li>
<li>“+” positive growth over last year</li>
<li>“(#)” negative growth over last year</li>
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<p>Brandeis (10.8)
Brown ~+21% (still approx)
Carnegie Mellon up maybe
Chicago ~+7%
Colby (7%)
Conn Col up slightly
Dartmouth +8.9%
Duke +17%
George Wash (2.3%)
Gettysburg ~(15%) (maybe just RD)
Hamilton ~(16%)
Harvard ~+5.6%
Kenyon (10%)
Marquette University +15%
Middlebury ~(12%)
MIT +17%
Northwestern ~+2% (count incomplete, 3-4% expected)
Notre Dame up slightly
NYU +0.3%
Penn State ~+4 so far
Princeton +2.3%
Rice +12%
RPI ~up, but not quantified yet
St Olaf down
Stanford +20%
Tufts ~(3 to 4%)
UC Berkeley +0.4%
UC Davis +4.4%
UC Irvine +4.0%
UCLA +0.5%
UCSB (5.0%)
UCSD (0.7%)
USC down slightly
UConn +9%
U Illinois ~+12%
UNC +17%
UNM + 13%
UVa +16%
Vanderbilt +12
Wellesley +3.6%
Yale +13.6</p>

<p>(Reposting) … add on if you have more :P</p>

<p>Coastal Carolina up ~30%
U South Carolina up 5% as od early January
[Strapped</a> Strand students stick around - Local - Myrtle Beach Online](<a href=“http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/story/765605.html]Strapped”>http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/story/765605.html)</p>

<ul>
<li>just reporting on top national universities & LACS, per USNews lists</li>
<li>“~” means the count is projected or incomplete, or I am not sure its final</li>
<li>“+” positive growth over last year</li>
<li>“(#)” negative growth over last year</li>
</ul>

<p>Amherst (~1%)
Brandeis (10.8)
Brown ~+21% (still approx)
Carnegie Mellon up maybe
Chicago ~+7%
Colby (7%)
Conn Col up slightly
Dartmouth +8.9%
Duke +17%
George Wash (2.3%)
Gettysburg ~(15%) (maybe just RD)
Hamilton ~(16%)
Harvard ~+5.6%
Kenyon (10%)
Marquette University +15%
Middlebury ~(12%)
MIT +17%
Northwestern ~+2% (count incomplete, 3-4% expected)
Notre Dame up slightly
NYU +0.3%
Penn State ~+4 so far
Princeton +2.3%
Rice +12%
RPI ~up, but not quantified yet
St Olaf down
Stanford +20%
Tufts ~(3 to 4%)
UC Berkeley +0.4%
UC Davis +4.4%
UC Irvine +4.0%
UCLA +0.5%
UCSB (5.0%)
UCSD (0.7%)
USC down slightly
UConn +9%
U Illinois ~+12%
UNC +17%
UNM + 13%
UVa +16%
Vanderbilt +12
Wellesley +3.6%
Wesleyan +20%
Yale +13.6</p>

<p>The Cornell Student paper reprts this morning that Cornell received 34,192 applications, representing a 3% increase over last year.</p>

<p>thanks eagerdad. here’s the article link:
[Cornell</a> Sees Increase In Freshman Applicants | The Cornell Daily Sun](<a href=“http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2009/02/02/cornell-sees-increase-freshman-applicants]Cornell”>http://cornellsun.com/section/news/content/2009/02/02/cornell-sees-increase-freshman-applicants)</p>

<p>Cornell has seen what seems to be a pattern (with some exceptions of course) for selective privates of a considerable ED increase (10% for Cornell)) followed by more modest RD numbers, yielding either a net smaller increase for total (3% for Cornell) or a decrease, as some selective LACs have experienced.</p>

<p>notably, as we on this thread know…

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<p>Texas A&M- apps + 6.7%</p>

<p>[Growing</a> more diverse - News](<a href=“http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2009/02/02/News/Growing.More.Diverse-3607644.shtml]Growing”>http://media.www.thebatt.com/media/storage/paper657/news/2009/02/02/News/Growing.More.Diverse-3607644.shtml)</p>

<p>small update to Carnegie Mellon, relative to post 22…ED quantified, but total/RD not:</p>

<p>[The</a> Tartan Online : Cohon?s transparency comforting](<a href=“http://thetartan.org/2009/2/2/news/budget]The”>Cohon’s transparency comforting - The Tartan)</p>

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<p>Lehigh apps down 13%</p>

<p>[Economy</a> spurs 13 percent decrease in applications - News](<a href=“http://media.www.thebrownandwhite.com/media/storage/paper1233/news/2009/02/03/News/Economy.Spurs.13.Percent.Decrease.In.Applications-3608058.shtml]Economy”>http://media.www.thebrownandwhite.com/media/storage/paper1233/news/2009/02/03/News/Economy.Spurs.13.Percent.Decrease.In.Applications-3608058.shtml)</p>

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<p>^ Wow, Lehigh down 13%! That’s quite a whack! And Lehigh’s a pretty good school, too. Some of the privates a little further down the food chain must be reeling. It’s got to ding their selectivity pretty badly, too; if apps are down that much, yield could be down, too, once admits do their final comparison shopping.</p>

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<p>While that is possible, it might not be very visible to the naked eye. It’s pretty easy to erase the bite of a drop in applications by accepting fewer students in April and using the “wait list then accept within a couple of weeks” stratagem that worked so well for several competitive schools in the past years. Did I say Duke? </p>

<p>It does miracles to hide an eroding selectivity in April when the spotlights are bright. By the time the corrections appear,there is hardly a soul who pays any attention. And the games go on! And so do those asinine waiting lists that have no correlation whatsoever to the number of potential admits.</p>

<p>I am an alum interviewer for Holy Cross. I received an email mentioning that 7000 applications were received which is the same it has been for the past two years.</p>

<p>This is an article about applications at Lehigh [Economy</a> spurs 13 percent decrease in applications - News](<a href=“http://media.www.thebrownandwhite.com/media/storage/paper1233/news/2009/02/03/News/Economy.Spurs.13.Percent.Decrease.In.Applications-3608058.shtml]Economy”>http://media.www.thebrownandwhite.com/media/storage/paper1233/news/2009/02/03/News/Economy.Spurs.13.Percent.Decrease.In.Applications-3608058.shtml)</p>

<p>Sorry Papa Chicken, I didn’t see that you already reported this.</p>

<p>no worries deb! Glad you are posting.</p>

<p>on the flip side,
William & Mary up 3.6%</p>

<p>[Applications</a> increase 3.6 percent to 12,000 | Flat Hat News](<a href=“http://flathatnews.com/content/69836/applications-increase-36-percent-12000]Applications”>http://flathatnews.com/content/69836/applications-increase-36-percent-12000)</p>

<p>post 107 by Modadunn cited an Amherst article which talked about ED numbers (442 applied ED) and RD numbers, with a drop of approximated 1% in RD numbers…I attempt below to translate that info into app TOTALs.</p>

<p>The article ( [The</a> Amherst Student | News | College Admits 31 Percent of Early](<a href=“http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/current/news/view.php?year=2008-2009&issue=13&section=news&article=05]The”>http://amherststudent.amherst.edu/current/news/view.php?year=2008-2009&issue=13&section=news&article=05) ) notes that "Amherst received “roughly 7,650 regular decision applicants”, and that this “represents approximately one percent drop in applicants from last year, when over 7,700 regular decision applications were received.”</p>

<p>My confusion lies in what the article terms “regular decision applications” as I believe these are TOTAL apps, not RD only.</p>

<p>Based upon Amherst’s class of 2012 profile ( <a href=“https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/79194/[/url]”>https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/79194/&lt;/a&gt; ) 7,745 apps we received in TOTAL last year, with 404 applying early. Therefore, the “7,700” referenced in the top article must be TOTAL apps, not RD apps as written, and therefore, I believe the “roughly 7,650” must likewise be a TOTAL apps number for this all to make sense.</p>

<p>Hence, by my calculation, TOTAL apps are down by ~1.2%, recognizing that the 7650 number is approximate.</p>