Yes, WFU, Vanderbilt, TCU, SMU, all popular along with SEC schools, but I am seeing Wesleyan, Barnard, Colgate, Bates, Wellesley in greater numbers than previous years. A lot of Dartmouth and NYU also.
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Just saw that Duke reported a 7% drop in EA applications. Duke ED Admits 13.8% to Class of 2030; Reports 7% Drop in Applications
Send your non-binary kids to Warren Wilson. It’s the gayest school I’ve ever seen. Over 50% of students there identify as LGBTQ and there are many many trans kids there.
Yes, the legislature in NC sucks rocks, but the governor is a good guy and many of the city and town governments are amazing. We are in the Triangle. Durham is especially liberal and LGBTQ embracing. Chapel Hill and Carrboro have had LGBTQ mayors for decades. Carrboro elected a gay mayor in 1995 and both cities have long had other gay officials since the 1980s. Raleigh has had LGBTQ officials too and has a pretty welcoming LGBTQ scene.
But I grew up in NC and yes there are parts of the state that are back-asswards so to speak and sometimes back-asswards people get elected and gerrymander the whole state, but that is not who we are as North Carolinians or we would have crazy Mark Robinson for governor now. We just really really need to get rid of gerrymandering in this country.
@momofboiler1, well Stephen Miller and Richard Nixon are Duke alums so that would turn me off.
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Which is interesting because, at our HS at least, Duke ED was brutal. Stellar students being outright rejected.
This thread has devolved into politics masquerading as college discussion. I usually enjoy these long threads but I have to stop following this one! I just read a comment with “it’s a fact” followed by completely partisan talking points! I have a completely different opinion but I’ll save it for the politics forum where it’s appropriate.
Some kids are going South whether northerners like it or not. Not everyone shares the same politics.
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I can confirm this.
I have a kid at an Ivy who given a do-over would have headed for Vandy or Duke.
Kids are applying to southern schools for many reasons: sports, weather, Greek life, getting away from parents, and for some, it’s where they feel they can be safe and accepted. What is the dominant reason? Who knows?
It’s not just college kids. A great migration is afoot that I think sociologists will be writing about this and parsing the reasons and implications for years. Until then, we can just speculate.
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Interesting changes—- when my kids were at a jewish Day school, the school stopped supporting the (now defunct) Duke TIP program because of Duke’s antisemitic issues then.
A reminder that this is the A2C forum, not the politics forum. While political statement of facts are allowed here, opinions about politics are not. Let’s return focus to the original question as asked.
FWIW, by the time my son went through (I think) the same Jewish day school, they were once again participating in Duke TIP. The most recent ADL antisemitism report gives Duke a”B”. Other Southern schools on the report card include:
UGA: A
University of Alabama: A
Vanderbilt: A
Elon: A
Tulane: B
University of South Carolina: B
Georgia Tech: B
FSU: B
Wake Forest: B
University of Florida: B
UT Austin: B
Emory: C
UVA: C
UNC Chapel Hill: C
Rice: C
Editing to add @HelicopterParent1 you might also want to check out the AMCHA database which documents antisemitic and anti Zionist activity on a larger array of campuses
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Actually I think (?) our kids went to different Day schools??
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UNC Asheville also.
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Don’t trust that ADL report for even one second. All those schools with lower scores, it’s because of protests on campus re Palestine. There’s no way the campus climate for Jewish students at UGA is better than Emory.
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This is a cool resource.
I looked up D26’s preferred school (University of Arizona) and it got a B.
Columbia University scored a D.
Other interesting ones:
- Harvard - C
- NYU - B
- Princeton - D
- Dartmouth - B
- Yale - D
- MIT - D
- Caltech - C
- Stanford - C
- WashU St Louis - B
- UCLA - D
- Michigan - C
- USC - C
- Swarthmore - D
- Amherst - B
- Williams - C
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Is there an alternate/additional resource you’d recommend?
Hillel?
UGA is less than 3% Jewish and Emory is more than 30% Jewish. I know that doesn’t tell the whole story, but cleary Jewish students are comfortable going there. They also have the very best campus rabbi!
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This comment is also important, in their methodology:
“ This analysis combines objective data with certain subjective impressions and analyses of that data as well as our beliefs about how to weight different factors. Reasonable people may disagree with these decisions. We invite you to offer your perspective and points of view. While we strive to be accurate with our data points, please feel free to offer corrections or nuance at campus@adl.org.”
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Does Hillel have publically available reports about antisemitic incidents or assessments of how well campuses have navigated the protests? If so, please share. The ADL is one resource as is AMCHA - which I like because it documents each incident and people can decide for themselves whether they consider something problematic. Neither should replace contacting Hillel and talking to current Jewish students about their first hand experience.
I have two degrees from Emory as does my husband. My FIL is a med school professor emeritus and still gives lectures at Emory a couple of times a year. Our family’s ties to Emory run deep. I did not post the ADL report to defame Emory. My understanding from friends who have kids currently attending is that things have settled down quite a bit in the last year or so. That being said, there have been incidents at Emory (as there have been on many campuses) where the “protests’ cross the line into harassment and intimidation of Jewish students -such as the incident outside of the chabad house where protesters reportedly yelled slurs at Jewish students and a Jewish law student was assaulted. We have seen first hand with the terror attack in Australia last week just what “globalizing the intifada” means. So of course the ADL ratings are reflective of how the various universities have handled the protests. I’m not going to debate with you whether the protests themselves are inherently antisemitic.
If you currently have a Jewish kid attending Emory, it would be great if you would elaborate on your students experience and the current climate on campus. Do students feel comfortable being openly Jewish? How about openly pro Israel?
With regard to UGA, I know many Jewish kids who are having a great experience there. Sure, percentage wise it’s much smaller than Emory - but you are still talking about over 1000 students. There is a distinction to be made between the size of the Jewish community and whether the university administration has acted appropriately to combat antisemitism. Nobody is saying that Emory doesn’t have a strong and supportive Jewish community. But if we look at how UGA handled the encampments vs how Emory did I understand why the ADL assigned the grades they did.
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So you are saying the ADL assigned the grades it did because it was upset that Emory called in the GHP and physically assaulted faculty members and arrested 20 people protesting? Makes sense.
Yes
Tulane at a B?
This is where a score - just like rankings - can be misleading without the context. By many accounts it’s suggested that Tulane is at least 50% Jewish. S23 is NOT Jewish and has never mentioned a single thing about on campus behavior that would be derogatory to the Jewish population. Due to the high Jewish population it WAS a magnet/target last year for some protests that were driven by off-campus, non-student, players. The administration and the city did a decent job of isolating and squashing them.