<p>People who eat meat all the time/most of the time are disgusting. Period.</p>
<p>Read Slaughterhouse…Its so disgusting…and lobsters?!? EWEWEW. Watch Jersey shore. Its disgusting the way they boil a live lobster and eat it.</p>
<p>EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Thank GOD I’ve been a vegetarian for 17 years.</p>
<p>People who eat meat are not disgusting. Humans are omnivores. </p>
<p>I respect vegetarians and I definitely do eat more veggies/fruit than I do meat, but meat is still a nice addition to my diet.</p>
<p>^^So what’s your take on killing and eating plants while they’re still alive?</p>
<p>^Plants don’t have consciousness or a viable brain. Hence I’m not killing them. I’m merely utilizing them.</p>
<p>Besides you don’t kill a plant by taking away its fruits. Its actually beneficial to pluck out the fruits before they drop and rot.</p>
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How do you know that fish and cows are sentient beings?</p>
<p>Your not killing them because they’re not conscious? Utilizing?..although this is unexplained, we do know that plants release a similar substance that we release when injured. What does that tell you?</p>
<p>And aren’t there other ways to get nutrients from veggies/plants/fruits. Carrots aren’t killed when you pluck, boil, and chew em? </p>
<p>Are they already dead or never lived?</p>
<p>Do you know what life means? It means biological phenomenas are completed. Things like growth, adaptation and homeostasis.</p>
<p>Lobsters are not bugs…</p>
<p>And OMG… they are SOOOOOOOOO good, especially when dipped in hot butter. Crab legs are second on the list. :D</p>
<p>^^The most important organ of a living species is its brain. Without the brain, none can live. The brain essentially deals primarily with five things: the five senses of taste, smell, touch, sight, and hearing.
All animals exhibit these five senses. Through scientific research and dissections and studies of behavioral patterns, cows and fish are proved to be sentient beings. I once had a cow as a pet when I lived in India. It can recognize me and it always comes to me when I call for it…it doesn’t respond to anyone else.</p>
<p>Anyways, plants do not exhibit these 5 senses. It lacks the sense of hearing, taste, smell, and sight. It has rudimentary capabilities of touch…and taste I suppose (Venus flytrap, but nobody eats that…actually the Venus flytrap works on the sense of touch, not taste. Its arguable).</p>
<p>Plants may secrete chemicals when injured, which honestly doesn’t tell me anything. When a car crashes, it immediately “secretes” the airbag, which protects the passenger. Does that mean the car is sentient?
Secreting chemicals is just secreting chemicals. It doesn’t prove anything. Its just a simple response to an adverse situation.</p>
<p>You can’t put plants and animals in the same category of things. Everyday you step on grass to walk. According to your logic, its a viable sentient being. Its like stepping on cats or horses. Would you do that? No.
But you never think twice before stepping on grass.
Its the same thing. I don’t feel any remorse when I remove a carrot from the soil. I see no reason to.</p>
<p>^^I just don’t see the problem with eating animals. Meat is SOOOOO good. And how can you NOT eat bacon? Sooo tasty.</p>
<p>And have you ever tried lobster w/ butter? :)</p>
<p>Because animals poo and you’re eating its poo and digestive system and nerves and EWEWEWWWW~</p>
<p>Yumm!!! You’re missing out. :D</p>
<p>Plus, you’re not eating the animal’s poo, unless perhaps you’re eating chitlings.</p>
<p>Do you eat Jell-O?</p>
<p>I only like lobster cooked Chinese style (with cheese and noodles, nomnom). I had lobster with hot butter over the summer and it was the most. revolting. thing. ever. It tasted like the ocean. And not in a good way. Plus it was all rubbery and just went down my throat in a giant gob.</p>
<p>Crabs, on the other hand, have a muuuch nicer texture. I get hungry just thinking about crabs.</p>
<p>" ^^^^The most important organ of a living species is its brain. Without the brain, none can live. The brain essentially deals primarily with five things: the five senses of taste, smell, touch, sight, and hearing.
All animals exhibit these five senses. Through scientific research and dissections and studies of behavioral patterns, cows and fish are proved to be sentient beings. I once had a cow as a pet when I lived in India. It can recognize me and it always comes to me when I call for it…it doesn’t respond to anyone else. "</p>
<p>Without the brain, none can live? What? You should know by now that single-celled organisms exist. You should also know that they don’t have brains. Most importantly, you should know that organism can “exist” at all levels, from cells to tissues. So all the talk about ‘five senses’ is completely wrong. Do i have to hear, smell, taste, see or feel to exist?</p>
<p>Also, what’s your argument on cows and fish being proven to be sentient beings? Are you telling me that cows and fish are able to perceive subjectively, therefore, they exist?</p>
<p>“Anyways, plants do not exhibit these 5 senses. It lacks the sense of hearing, taste, smell, and sight. It has rudimentary capabilities of touch…and taste I suppose (Venus flytrap, but nobody eats that…actually the Venus flytrap works on the sense of touch, not taste. Its arguable).”</p>
<p>Plants do not hear. Neither do they smell nor see. Does that mean they do not exist? If i’m deaf, so i seize to exist? No, i live because that is not essential to live.</p>
<p>“Plants may secrete chemicals when injured, which honestly doesn’t tell me anything. When a car crashes, it immediately “secretes” the airbag, which protects the passenger. Does that mean the car is sentient?
Secreting chemicals is just secreting chemicals. It doesn’t prove anything.”</p>
<p>Great point, but an air-bag in a car is artificial. We make it possible for cars to be able to ‘deploy’ airbags on impact. And why are you talking about perception (sentient)? Perception doesn’t equal life. Secreting chemicals is a response than live organism exhibit, not ‘just secreting chemicals’.</p>
<p>"You can’t put plants and animals in the same category of things. Everyday you step on grass to walk. According to your logic, its a viable sentient being. Its like stepping on cats or horses. Would you do that? No.
But you never think twice before stepping on grass.
Its the same thing. I don’t feel any remorse when I remove a carrot from the soil. I see no reason to. </p>
<p>Absolutely, that’s why there’s something called the taxonomy. Everyday, i step on grass, does me not caring about the grass as a living being mean that it doesn’t live? Just because i pluck grass for fun and won’t be charged for murder, doesn’t mean that it doesn’t exist. Even as you said this, i might step on grass without thinking twice, does that therefore mean it has no life? </p>
<p>Remorse is not standard across a board. People dogfight all the time and feel no remorse for their actions. Does that mean dogs do not live? If i kill a rabbit just because it feels good and i feel no remorse for my actions, what does that tell you? That is has no life
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<p>lobsters are cute and yummy</p>
<p>i want to throw up.</p>
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<p>Alright, I agree. Protists, fungi, etc lack brains, but I thought we’re keeping things practical here. You’ve completely deviated from the topic. I’m talking about edible plants and animals. I mean you’re not going to eat an amoeba.
I’m talking about the concept of a sentient being.
I mean I know tables and inanimate objects without brains exist. This isn’t a question about existence. This is about a living thing with actual feelings. Living things with feelings possess all five senses. Its true.
Animals know their offspring and mates and their community. A plant does not have those feelings.
Killing an animal can hurt their feelings. “Killing” a plant doesn’t.</p>
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<p>No, I’m merely saying they possess feelings that plants lack. And again, this isn’t a question of existence. Its about feelings.</p>
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<p>Umm…I never said plants don’t exist…I’m trying to say that it doesn’t have feelings. It isn’t as tangible in life as an animal. </p>
<p>I want you to understand that plants aren’t killed when we pick fruit from them. I understand that carrots and potatoes (root vegetables) are “killed” in the process, but I don’t consider that killing.
I’m not hurting anyone by doing so. And plants lack sufficient feelings to express grief (they don’t even feel any). They can’t even understand the concept of grief and death.
To me, I see them as tools. Just like how you use a crowbar to open things (the crowbar dents in the process…but it doesn’t cry out or express pain).</p>
<p>There are a lot of people out there who believe the way I do. It makes sense to me. So I do it. There’s a reason why PG cartoons casually show the Hulk uprooting trees. They don’t show him stomping on little rabbits.</p>
<p>PS: One more thing. Please refine your statements when you respond. Much of your sentences are unclear. You have a lot of spelling mistakes. Fix them please.</p>
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“Much of your sentences are unclear. You have a lot of spelling mistakes. Fix them please.”</p>
<p>You tell him to fix his spelling and grammar and yet you can’t even tell the difference between “many” and “much”? In the same sentence where you admonish him, as well. That fails pretty hard.</p>
<p>Lobsters are delicious. I don’t care if they’re bugs or closely related to cockroaches.</p>
<p>shuttup quantumarbiter, ive noticed your posts are very annoying. and its people like you that give vegetarians bad names. im not one myself, but whiny vegetarians are the worst. ok we get it, you dont eat meat, but stop preaching to those who do. youre not better than us, so really just ■■■■. </p>
<p>and btw, i eat lobster its delicious, so is bacon, chicken, seafood, etc. i eat more vegetables then meat as well though. 
fwiw, lobsters do look gross, along with shrimp, they look like over sized insects.</p>
<p>Lobster is gross 
yucky </p>
<p>they’re cute but eww just gross [leaves a disgusting after taste in your mouth]</p>
<p>I wonder if I could turn into a vegetarian…</p>