<p>Now don’t get me wrong, this isn’t meant to insult anyone, but I was wondering if there are people there who are more mature than High schoolers (trust me i know some moronic college students). Im not saying they have to be like studying 100% of the time, and are trapped inside their dorms, who don’t party or anything. But I have been getting a lot of mixed reviews saying some people are complete idiots here, not all, but a good ammount.</p>
<p>So yeah I was just wondering…</p>
<p>(and for all who are trying to judge me :p, im not the smartest person in the world either but I can control myself from doing stupid things)</p>
<p>If you are unfamiliar with the west coast or how the people act out here, I think you will be in for a surprise and not in a good way. Also, the school is not exactly hard to get into nor is it the most prestigious. You will have a lot of normal people who are from AZ or wanted to get away from their cold state (could have picked a dozen schools better than ASU…) that are nice. But for every one of them there’s a handful of natives or imports that are just there to party and act stupid.</p>
<p>It’s a large school, and there are good people and bad people. I think you will find that the majority of the social life and action on campus runs through the ‘bad’ people and that is where a lot of people find themselves unhappy with ASU. Until the school really ratchets up the entrance requirements then I don’t think you will see any improvement. I realize Crow wants ASU to be everything to everyone, but that just doesn’t work in any meaningful way.</p>
<p>That said, a lot of people burn out or drop out who thought ASU was going to be easy. Barrett certainly is no joke, either. There are some competitive programs that have decent to high rankings, and so attract the more studious student. The school is smack dab in the middle of the nightlife center of Phoenix, for the college crowd. If you’re looking for down to earth people with a lot of school pride ASU is definitely not the place to go.</p>
<p>I consider myself and my preferred activities quite “mature” and I’ve been able to find others like me. The honors college is a great place for this, as is getting involved with student organizations. If you make an attempt to find people like yourself, you will; there are 60,000 students here.</p>
<p>To touch on what tycho said, not all natives are immature! I will agree that a lot of them can be, as they are comfortable with the environment, but there are definitely some people that wound up at ASU because of how cheap it is for decent in state students.
ASU works really hard at getting the good students from Arizona to attend there…they have plenty of scholarships that are only available for students that are from Arizona…AIMS being one of them. I know that I wouldn’t be attending ASU if I had to pay more than room and board, and ASU knows that their reputation isn’t that great for academics, so they figure if they give students enough money, they’d be willing to stay in state.</p>
<p>I hate this, but anyway. ASU is not really the school I imagined myself going to.</p>
<p>ASU has a lot of international students as well. It is an easy school to get into. You’re bound to get people from everywhere and every academic background. Some people will just remain immature, and there’s nothing that you can really do except not associate with them. I will agree with what has been said and say that the social life is largely dominated by the crowd that does immature things, but that doesn’t mean that they’re all immature.</p>
<p>Again, ASU is a large school that will cater to what you’re looking for if you’re willing to look for it. You’ll find what you like.</p>
<p>1 in 4 Freshman will drop out
1 in 5 undergrads are from out of state
1 in 6 is over 25
1 in 5 (almost) is a part time student</p>
<p>6 year graduation rate is 56%</p>
<p>15% live in Undergrad housing</p>
<p>08 Acceptance rate was 90%</p>
<p>Compare to a big 10 school (lets use Wisconsin)
Less than 5% are part time
1 in 3 is from out of state
only 5% are 25 or older
90+% freshman retention
82% 6 year graduation rate
24% live on campus
52% acceptance rate</p>
<p>Pretty sobering. But that’s what happens when you are near last or dead last in state funding for education. </p>
<p>If you are coming out of state for anything other than architecture or journalism, you are here to party and that is all. If you live in-state, ASU is the best option unless you adore Tucson. In that case, go to U of A because you are strange. ASU is cheap for in-state kids because they will waive tuition if you do well on the AIMS. There’s also a lot of scholarship/grant money available. It’s a bargain school. The ROI will be high, but only because you paid next to nothing for your relatively average education. </p>
<p>I know plenty of people who went to ASU and were successful afterward. Plenty of others dropped out or straight up couldn’t stand it. It’s your call.</p>
<p>I always hate hearing these kinds of things about ASU. People fail to take into account that when there are 60,000+ young people in one general area, there is bound to be a party. Sure, it is easy to get in, but look at the graduation rates. The low rate doesn’t mean that ASU is a bad school, but more that the people who got accepted so easily found out that it university isn’t so easy after all. There are a lot of people and not everyone is studious. There are drugs and parties and lazy bums at every school. It is not surprising that ASU, being one of the largest universities in the U.S., has this reputation. But by all means, if you go to ASU, try to get into Barrett. Whoever said that Barrett is not a joke is right. They received a crazy amount of applications this year and they could only pick about 700 for the freshman class. Barrett is getting extremely selective and I think the honors college is very respectable. I got accepted this year and my valedictorian and salutatorian from my school are both going to Barrett as well. ASU is not a bad school. I always like to tell people that college is what you make of it and what you put into it. It is not fair to generalize everyone at such diverse school just because of the reputation. </p>
<p>Oh and the whole thing about the STD thing… I don’t even know why that is used as an argument! Don’t have unprotected sex with people you don’t know. simple as that.</p>
<p>My brother isn’t majoring in either of those two and he is definitely mature (more mature than me!). So I resent this statement. I will say he definitely grew up from HS to college and he tells me that he does know some immature people. But he also says, that with such a big school, there is a crowd for everyone.</p>
<p>I would have to agree that an out-of-state student should not come to ASU except for the honors college or specific, highly-ranked programs (business, journalism, engineering etc.). A non-honors ASU education is very mediocre in the non-vocational areas (liberal arts and such).</p>
<p>I went to ASU my freshmen year and transfered out the next year… I am not going to lie, there is a large quantity of morons and idiots there, as in other colleges but it’s extremely hard to miss them at ASU. Barrett is difficult, but it isn’t that selective or that burdensome either. If I were you, I’d spend the money elsewhere. But like everyone else said, there are very smart people at ASU too, so you may find your niche there.</p>
<p>Alright, so I know that this reply is coming a bit late, but better late than never, right? But as for ASU, it definitely wasn’t my first choice. Then again I was lazy and only applied for a few schools that I knew I could get into. I originally intended to go to NAU because of the area, but that place has a reputation too. Everywhere has a reputation. I grew up in Arizona, so I can tell you this: ASU is supposedly the party school, NAU is the druggie school, and U of A is the drinking school. Is everyone who goes to the school going to be like that though? Of course not! But will there be some of all of it at every school? Yes. </p>
<p>Honestly though, what school doesn’t? Sure, Brown will be filled with a higher caliber of students (supposedly, probably), but there will be immature people there too. I know personally that being smart doesn’t mean that you are mature. I know a couple of people from my AP Gov class that are going to Dartmouth, and the smoke and drink and definitely aren’t the most mature people out there. I also know people who got into the Ivys but are going to ASU. Why? I really have no idea. </p>
<p>And as for the STD thing… It’s Arizona. Have you never heard of the Mormons? I mean, it is Utah south. I thought that everyone was aware of that. True, a lot of the population is lost to BYU Provo and BYU I, but a great deal of them go to ASU. And they are generally quite mature. At least the guys. But back to the STD thing, are Mormons being counted in that? Because if so, you’re statistic is probably off, just saying.</p>