<p>H was scheduled to work yesterday, but his company shut down. He stayed home today to listen to the radio shows & & Wednesday he is taking off early to go to the parade.
He says " its like a whole bunch of Christmases!"
All those that thought the game was boring must have been Denver fans.
( or they were referring to the half time show).</p>
<p>My husband said he felt as though he was cheated out of a football game.</p>
<p>There was some sort of bonfire started, it looked like people were throwing couches on it or something.</p>
<p>The newspeople here were going nuts about the “huge fire” and people getting “wildly out of control”, when you could see on the video it was mostly just people standing around celebrating. They weren’t flipping cars or breaking storefronts or fighting or anything… newspeople are stupid sometimes.</p>
<p>Anyone else going to the parade Wednesday? My kids have permission to skip school.</p>
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Is he on the Broncos offense?</p>
<p>I wish we could know more about protection schemes and calls. Games like this - or the Broncos win over the Patriots 2 weeks ago - show me how little we know about what goes on. We give Peyton credit for changing calls, identifying the defense’s weak points, etc. but then doesn’t he deserve blame for the protection calls? I wonder because when Tom Brady is sacked on 4th down by a guy who has a ton of space to cut inside, is that the protection call or the individual lineman (Mankins in that case) beaten or did the linemen separate too much or what? We have no way of knowing. We can’t tell if the mistakes are in play design, mental execution or physical execution.</p>
<p>So in this game, when both defensive ends beat their men to the outside, why is Peyton that far back in the pocket? If the linemen are playing for outside moves, the QB should be expecting that and be up farther in the pocket so the rushers go past him, not into him. Is that a protection call problem? A physical blocking problem? A QB mistake in the pocket? </p>
<p>I have to blame Peyton for throwing passes instead of taking a few sacks. That first INT was a bad decision. According to what I’ve heard, the safety was his fault as well because the entire offensive team moved on the snap, that the play was snap on the first call. When you’re the only guy moving, it’s your fault.</p>
<p>I also had big problems with the Broncos offensive game plan. They threw a lot of really short passes, like 4 yards, which meant that even with completions they would need to pick up 3rd downs. It made little sense to me because Seattle moves to the ball very well so you would think they’d get to the short man before he could gain yards after catch. In fact, the only real gains after catch were on passes downfield, one to Welker and the one to Thomas that he stupidly fumbled when he didn’t have the ball truly secured. By not throwing even intermediate routes, they let Seattle come up with their linebackers and DB’s - and they never tried to do much of anything agains the safeties though Seattle often (usually) plays only 1 deep. I think the first time Seattle dropped 2 safeties deep, Denver ran so they were clearly aware. I never saw Julius Thomas sent down the seam, though he’s significantly bigger. I wasn’t aware that Decker played. Most of Thomas’ catches were 4 or 5 yards, with maybe 2 downfield - one to get a 1st down and the other his fumble. I felt the offensive game plan played directly into the strength of Seattle’s defense. Which made me go huh? Especially since Peyton is the “on field offensive coordinator”. So I have to blame a lot on him for that.</p>
<p>Wilson again impresses me with his decisions and physical execution. He thinks and acts on his decisions really fast. He is this generation’s Fran Tarkenton.</p>
<p>I’m taking the time off to go to the parade. It’s going to be COLD, though!</p>
<p>Good analysis, Lergnom. I was told that those short passes are what Denver does, so that’s what the Seahawks focused on defending, just like Denver shut down Marshawn Lynch. I agree, though, that if Payton gets so much credit for the great regular season offense, he needs to take the lions share of the blame for yesterday’s game. I also hear that he basically acts as the offensive coordinator and calls the plays. Also, I think that some of Denver’s offensive problems were due to avoiding throwing to a one-on-one with Richard Sherman. Peyton avoided that all day. Capernick’s throw to Crabtree two weeks ago was a pretty dumb play on his part.</p>
<p>It must have been difficult to select the MVP. So many great performances, but only one truck.</p>
<p>One good thing about the lopsided score is that the refs didn’t decide the game.</p>
<p>So I barely understood the game, but H defended the Broncos, saying they played a good game, its just that the
Hawks were better.</p>
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I don’t know what game he watched, but in the one I watched, the Broncos were terrible. Terrible execution, terrible play-calling, terrible coaching.</p>
<p>Good point, EK. On the way home the sports radio guys were wondering if even Joe Montana could have been effective against the Seattle defense.</p>
<p>The AFC just seemed to be weaker than the NFC. Otherwise would the Broncos have gotten this far?</p>
<p>The forecast for Wed is 32, but zero precip & sunny. Ill take that over 50 & raining.
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<p>A substantial portion of super bowls have been blowouts. I don’t think it indicates anything about the relative strength of the conferences, other than this year Seattle was the best.</p>
<p>It terms of inter-conference play, the NFC had the edge 34-30 this year, but over the last 25 years at least, the AFC has a pretty big advantage.</p>
<p>I heard a broadcast before the game that noted that this was the first time ever that a #1 ranked NFL offense was facing a #1 ranked defense in the championship game. They noted that there had been maybe 12-15 times (I can’t remember exactly) that a team ranked #1 on offense had played in this game, and about the same I think for the number of times a team ranked #1 on defense had been in the game.</p>
<p>Anyway, the #1 offensive teams won about 65% of the time, I think. But the #1 defensive teams won 85-90% of the time. </p>
<p>I think that’s what we saw yesterday, coupled with the fact that Denver didn’t play all that well. </p>
<p>It sort of makes me wonder how the Patriots would have done had they gone to the Superbowl instead of the Broncos. I suspect Brady would have thrown long all day and maybe rattled Seattle. On the other hand, Seattle’s defensive line was amazing all day and probably would have put Brady on the ground most of the night. </p>
<p>Last night’s game certainly supported the idea that “defense wins championships.” Congrats to all you Seahawks fans. Enjoy the moment.</p>
<p>The way to beat the Patriots is to generate enough of a rush with the front 4 that you get to him and disrupt him. Very few teams can do this. Unfortunately, the Giants were one of them, hence two painful Super Bowl losses.</p>
<p>It seems like the Seahawks can do this as well. They were in Peyton’s face all day.</p>
<p>Given the pathetic state of the Pats’ receiving corp… I don’t think there was much chance they could have beaten the Seahawks. If they had Gronk… maybe. I think they would have put up a better showing because I think they would have been better coached.</p>
<p>But Seattle is the better team.</p>
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Those guys must have missed the game 2 weeks ago where Colin Kaepernick almost beat the Seahawks.</p>
<p>Actually I just read a Boston Globe articlet that says there have been five super bowls where the #1 offense played the #1 defense. According to them, all were won by the top defense. </p>
<p>Not only does defense win, but if you look at the top 8 scoring offenses ever, none won the big game. That is, draw a line at 540 points and it includes the 1983 Redskins, 1998 Vikings, 2000 Rams, 2007 Patriots, 2011 Packers, 2011 Saints and 2012 Patriots. Only 2 of those made the Super Bowl.</p>
<p>A really good defense wins.</p>
<p>As to the Patriots, the good news is I hope this puts to bed the notion they need “weapons”. They need a better and essentially a healthier defense: they lost their 2 highest paid players, plus their other DT, for the season, which meant they couldn’t rotate on the d-line and that wore down their pass rush over the year. They also need their o-line to play better in the big games. They had a terrific run game … and it disappeared against Denver. They had pass blocking issues all year and that showed against Denver too.</p>
<p>As to team building, the Seahawks pay their QB $600k a year and their defensive secondary is a bunch of later round draft picks who don’t make much money. This means they have money to spend on other players. You can’t just say: build like Seattle. In a few years, their key players will be looking for the big paydays and that will change how they allocate money. But they have a few years before that really hits. Denver faces that now. SF has the same advantage as Seattle: they pay Kaepernick about $600k so they have money for other players. Denver has to pay Peyton and NE has to pay Tom, just like NO pays Drew, etc. A lot of this is just luck of the draw.</p>
<p>If you can pull out a lesson, it’s that bigger corners who can move well are good to draft. Then you hope they turn out well because the draft is mostly luck after the first picks. </p>
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<p>There were talking about the specific game yesterday, where everything was clicking.</p>