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<p>This is often the case with sociopaths and people with narcissistic personality disorder. </p>
<p>The overkill here suggests extreme rage. Self defense-seems pretty unlikely. When it’s self defense, the victim usually runs once the attacker is incapacitated. Rarely do they hang around to stab repeatedly and go on to practically decapitate them.</p>
<p>Just watched a clip of one of the defense “expert witnesses” being questioned by the jury. I am fascinated by the fact that in this state the jury is allowed to do this. Are there other states which allow this in jury trials?</p>
<p>I think I read that only 3 states (or maybe it was 3 other states) allow questions by the jury. In AZ, I believe it’s only because this case involves the possibility of a death penalty that the jury is allowed to ask questions. It certainly does keep the jury more engaged if they can directly ask a question that may not have been covered by the attorneys. It does also give the attorneys a window into what at least one or more of them are thinking.</p>
<p>I believe FL, KY, and IN are the other 3 states that allow jurors to ask written questions of witnesses.</p>
<p>I am becoming obsessed with this trial for so many reasons, not the least of which is how Jodi apparently concocted this whole amnesia thing, with the help of “Mr. Impartiality” Samuels who is on the payroll for the defense. Not sure what else they could have done to explain why the murder weapons have gone “missing”.</p>
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<p>Bingo. And don’t forget that she recorded the results of her rage by documenting it on film. If I was on the jury, this is all I would need to know to be 100 percent certain that she was not acting in self defense nor was she in shock.</p>
<p>Don’t believe that the jury’s rejection of her self defense plea gets us to first degree murder. They need to prove premeditation to get “first degree” which has a sentence of life or the death penalty. If the jury buys self defense (which they won’t) then she has a high probability of walking. Unfortunately, I think there is a decent chance of a hung jury. Only takes one - you never know the life experiences of people sitting on a jury.</p>
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A good point and one that has been proven time and time again.</p>
<p>They just had a murder trial in MI where the jurors were allowed to submit written questions to be read to the defendant by the judge. Interestingly, the jurors were also shown on live television, which is not allowed, and should have resulted in a mistrial. I know for a fact the judge was made aware that this happened and was surprised to see that there was no mistrial and the defendant was convicted.</p>
<p>The jurors in this case have been on tv in several shots as well.</p>
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<p>But if you believe she stole her grandparents gun (& I do), that does get us to first degree murder.</p>
<p>Why is this trial taking so long? Is anyone else surprised it’s still dragging on?</p>
<p>I think the judge is allowing both sides to present everything under the sun so as to avoid any basis for an appeal. The incessant back and forth questioning of Samuels is just nonsensical - they keep going over and over the same things. If she holds them back to any way they will claim their case was compromised and appeal any verdict that is rendered. Personally, I think she is a weak judge.</p>
<p>CNN is announcing that a verdict has been reached in this case and will be announced at 4:30 ET.</p>
<p>Pretty amazing that this case began on January 2.</p>
<p>Guilty, murder 1.
5 jurors voted murder 1 and 7 jurors said murder 1 and felony murder.</p>
<p>Hopefully the next phase of the case, the sentencing, doesn’t drag on.</p>
<p>Poor Nancy Grace.</p>
<p>Lol, mini!!!</p>
<p>Well, it looks like this jury got it right. Nice change of pace. Imagine that these jurors were there for three months!!!</p>
<p>I’d want to put someone away just for that!!!</p>
<p>Good riddance to bad rubbish.</p>
<p>Yup. Nancy to the junkpile!</p>
<p>She will need a new outlet for her righteous indignation and stellar nicknaming skills.</p>
<p>I didn’t follow the trial closely but I am glad of the verdict. That young man died a horrible death.</p>
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<p>It is called the George Zimmerman trial, set to begin next month.</p>