Excellent post, poets heart.
I hate to keep repeating myself, poets heart, but - fried okra. You forgot the fried okra.
And peach cobbler.
Hush puppies .
HUSH PUPPIES! Swoon.
Pretty soon we’ll be arguing about barbecue and a real civil war will break out.
Where is the lie?
Finally watched Obama at the funeral of today and it was great. I don’t like to watch funerals, but his short two minute clip made me feel so uplifted.
I’m not southern but I really, really, REALLY want some peach cobbler now 
Mmmmmmm . . . brisket . . . now there’s something that maybe the descendants of Polish Jews and Southern natives can agree on.
Original documents written by the seceding state governments in 1861 indicate that one particular state’s right was the primary factor in the decision to secede:
http://www.civilwar.org/education/history/primarysources/declarationofcauses.html
10 worst states for black people: Arkansas is the only southern state on the list! Funny how Pennsylvania is on there…
http://247wallst.com/special-report/2014/12/09/the-worst-states-for-black-americans/
I am in the south but I identify as a Virginian first then as a southerner.
Virginia did not leave the union until Lincoln ordered the states (including VA) to raise troops against the states that had already seceded.
Why would it seem odd that Pennsylvania is on the list referenced in reply #628?
Note that the list is slightly misnamed – the methodology makes it clear that they are measuring the greatest inequality between black and white people in the state, not what state has the worst measures for black people in an absolute sense.
@greenwitch that is interesting but if I’m reading the methodology section correctly, they are using comparison to whites rather than how black people fare on their own. A better title in that case might be something like “Worst states for racial inequality.” I wonder if those rankings are skewed by states that are already poor and have poor educational obtainment. (Not, of course, saying this is good or anything just pointing out that the title seems to be misleading)
Didn’t have fried green tomatoes tonight. It was a scallops night. How in-southern of me. Well shut my mouth. ( there are better southern expressions but am drawing a blank at the moment).
It’s pretty funny to see people jump in when a survey doesn’t fit their stereotype for how bad it must be in the South.
A lot of the biggest cities in the NE had a lot of white flight in the 60’s. Most have never recovered population and the ecomomies of these cities have suffered and havent recovered. I’m sure that is why Connecticut is on that list. The disparity between urban and suburban is extreme.
What survey? Is there a “survey” somewhere? Or is that simply a commentary on the conversation. I suppose we should be drinking mint juleps right now, but instead it’s an 89 Bordeaux. Oh the shame.
I think for someone to be a real Southerner, they have to at least have been born and raised in the South and have grandparents or great grandparents who where in the South during the Great Depression or earlier. Being born in Atlanta or Charlotte after your parents moved down from North in 1970s or so doesn’t qualify as a true Southerner in my book.
So the attitude and identity of the “real” south is based on looking backwards to depression and segregation rather than looking ahead to attracting jobs and industry?
As Adam and Jamie would say . . .
http://s.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cda6cb48935e0efa1803814897b120f485850db7d587e1cc18b69c24f1e1f642.jpg
@saintfan ! Love the avatar!!
thanks