Average High School Junior - advice on where to apply (MD resident, 3.3 UW, poli sci or nursing]

Demographics
US citizen
Maryland, private/independent high school (catholic)
Female, white
Undecided (potentially poli sci or nursing)
Unweighted GPA: 3.3
Weighted HS GPA 3.5 (not sure-AP’s are weighted)
AP’s currently taking AP Env Sci, AP History
Senior year will take 2 more APs (psych, lit)
Will not submit scores

Coursework
Taking APES and APUSH
Planning on taking 2-3 more AP’S senior year

Extracurriculars
Paid job: Working in retail since summer and will continue through senior year
Camp Counselor week long summer camp for low socio economic students 1 week
Leukemia Lymphoma Society Campaign 11th,
JV field hockey, lacrosse 9th
Dance Team spring 10th and 11th
Lacrosse manager 10th, 11th
Model UN 10th, 11th
Member, ONELOVE Club 10th, 11th
Families for Families club member 9th

no cost constraints
expect to have decent essay and solid LOR’s

Schools
*Reach: Tulane, TCU

  • Safety * Pitt
  • Likely * Fairfield, College of Charleston
  • Match ?
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Pitt is not a safety. In fact, with a 3.3/3.5 GPA and test optional, it is probably a reach. Tulane and TCU are correctly classified as reaches. I’m not familiar enough with Fairfield or College of Charleston to comment on them. Please let us know what you’re looking for in a school.

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I would not call Pitt a safety. I actually think it is a reach. Tulane is definitely a reach and I don’t know much about the others.

I think a school like Towson could possibly be considered a match - definitely not a safety. I would look at the instate publics but not CP.

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I don’t think Pitt is a safety.

Is your student looking at any of the instate public universities in Maryland (perhaps not UMD CP, but the others)?

College of Charleston seems likely to me. I’ll tag @tsbna44 who has a kid there.

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Political Science is a much less competitive major than nursing. Advice regarding specific schools will vary greatly depending on which of those two majors is chosen.

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Tulane got a lot tougher this year — I think it’s too reachy.

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My 3.9+ us 33 act was rejected in 2021, I also think Pitt I’d a reach.

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Were the SAT/ACTs taken? If so, letting CC know what they are will help you find a better answer to your question and may make you re-think not submitting scores. With your GPA, a high SAT score will radically change which colleges will accept you. IME, some schools look closer at GPA, others look closer at SAT/ACT.

Apply in-state. Your chances are highest there.

Nursing is incredibly competitive. Poli Sci much easier to get an admit. But also, these are two totally different tracks - why???

How far away do you want to go?
How big?
Is weather a factor?

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Does your private school have college counseling? They should know where the student can apply to.

Test optional is getting less and less a good thing. Has the student taken a test? At some schools, a 25 can be an asset but at others, a 30 isn’t. But it’s good to take…and take again (with studying) - 3 times at least - in my opnion.

What level of overall rigor? Is the student taking most APs they offer? How is the math, etc. - to what level? By glancing, I’ll assume not a quant heavy student.

Nursing is a whole different ball game than Poli Sci - and will impact differently. We read of students getting turned down at “easier” schools. It doesn’t mean the student shouldn’t pursue it - but it does mean they should craft their list appropriately. btw - nursing is going to be heavy science oriented - if that’s an issue.

So let’s look at your list - poli sci wise.

Pitt - you need to apply early. It has gotten really really popular.

The average GPA is 4.13. Now you have a 3.3 but we don’t know how they weight but it’s likely well above a 3.3. Many schools add .5 for Honors and +1 for AP. So I’d agree - it’s likely a reach today - but the earlier you apply, your better odds. I suppose those on the reach level - it’s a reasonable reach - vs. say applying to Harvard. But for nursing, Pitt is going to be no chance - vs. say a Duquesne.

Tulane- you just never know. You have to ED - pure and simple - Loyola New Orleans neighbors Tulane, you can cross register, and is a likely (not sure about nursing).

TCU - big money school - same as Tulane in that sense. They might like to take your money. 77% are in the top 25% of their class. Do you know your student’s approximate rank? Likely easier than Tulane.

C of C - is likely by admission percentage but for students who go TO, 38% had a 4.0 - again, we don’t know your true weighted because each college weights differently. But at 3.5, it’s 19.5%. So very possible. They do not have nursing - so that might be a reason to remove.

C of C is very unique in its campus. For those who like it, I’m not sure there’s a match - but UT Chattanooga shares some elements - mainly cool city, walkable from campus (which isn’t like Charleston). They do have nursing and I think it’s likely (not sure about nursing) if and only if you submit the test as it’s now required in TN.

Fairfield - I guess we can say is a match. Low test submission - but there’s lots of jesuits out there - not sure which have nursing. Marquette, for example, is an easy admit but a good name. So you might look at others to see.

If you go nursing, you might want direct admit. Nursing doesn’t seem to matter where you go.

Here’s a list of direct admit nursing programs. You might look into (specific to nursing) -

Belmont (Christian), Marshall, FAU, Duquesne, Marquette off the top of my head. UAH but I don’t think is direct admit.

If going poli sci - and you don’t need matches - you need safeties - they are most important - I’d look at UTC (as noted), Loyola New Orleans, Marqutte, Frostburg, Marshall. Also, Coastal Carolina, Salisbury, Christopher Newport, Ithaca, some of the SUNYs like Geneseo, New Paltz, TCNJ. For big schools, WVU, Alabama, Ms State, Arizona, Arizona State. Miami of Ohio might be a match as would Indiana U and UNCW.

But safeties are your most important. One doesn’t really need matches.

Check with your school though - they know where students like yours has ended up.

Best of luck.

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Are you able to provide further insight into nursing versus political science?

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Weighted gpa is reported to be 3.5

Yes but weighted means different things to different schools. Some take as face value (IU). Some recalculate to their standard - UF/UGA.

It’s really hard to work with weighted. Rather an unweighted and guess at rigor is better.

Just because schools handle differently.

The most common method seems to be the +.5 Honors and + 1 AP - but even with that, not everyone (both HS and colleges) use.

I wish there was a common way - so everyone was looking apples to apples.

It’s the same with how the school’s report grades in the CDS - some use weighted, some unweighted, etc.

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Nursing programs and even some pre-nursing programs like to see high grades and preferably AP courses in the sciences, particularly in biology and chemistry, as well as at least B grades in math.

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Take a look at Seton Hall University, may be a good fit for what you are looking for.

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More info on what we are looking for:
small to mid-size, liberal arts, good sports team/school spirit,
must be at least 3 hours away from where we live (MD)
Please NO schools in MD, northern VA or close by PA
No huge state schools

Nursing is only something she is interested in but not necessarily something she has to apply to. Understand applying LA is an easier path so nursing school is not necessary as can always go to grad school if that is her chosen path.

She thinks her GPA will be closer to 3.6 after this year. Test scores are really not an option as we don’t think we can get them high enough to submit anywhere.

Nursing is just a potential career of interest. will likely not apply as nursing student because it is too competitive.

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What about Kalamazoo?

Is Ohio too close? There are a number of great colleges there.

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If she is interested in pursuing nursing in an ABSN or Direct Entry MSN program after she gets a bachelor’s degree, it would be useful to take the (usually) 6-8 prerequisite courses during her 4 years at college.

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I was just typing the same!

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What about some of the NJ schools such as Rowan and Monmouth?

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