<p>^What do you mean the list has been refreshed?</p>
<p>im guessing it will be refreshed after the admissions are up</p>
<p>Does anyone know what time decisions are released? I live on the other coast, so I’ll have to add three hours to it :P</p>
<p>^ When you log into MyBerkeleyApp it says decisions will be released in the evening. I would guess sometime around 4 pm PST.</p>
<p>today is the day!!! no more worrying about Directory, people! :)</p>
<p>No more worrying about the directory. Please do mention on your admissions decision if your name was on the list though.</p>
<p>no point going “my name wasn’t on there but I got accepted! you were wrong!” because 1. names were still being added 2. it’s highly possible that you checked the list after the names were erased.</p>
<p>For those of us who saw ourselves listed in the directory, I want to say that – as you probably know – UC Davis’ admits came out today. I know two students - one who was waitlisted and one who was declined from Davis today – whose names I saw in the Directory. It doesn’t make sense to me that someone would get into Berkeley and not Davis, but I know it happens. I just don’t want people to be heartbroken who are counting on admission after seeing their name in that directory.</p>
<p>^ thanks for that. I got into Davis and I wasn’t on the list. </p>
<p>Not that much longer. Good luck everyone!!</p>
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<p>Ugh…in such a bad mood, now.</p>
<p>Now that changes things… interesting :)</p>
<p>We’ll see we’ll see.</p>
<p>Called it! Jk, That is pretty surprising.</p>
<p>I also got into Davis and was not on the list while it was up. Best wishes for all of us. I hope for those whose name was on that it was an admit list and for those of us who were not that we were still in the process of being added.</p>
<p>i just tried searching my name on davis and ucsd…it seems like they dont update the admiteed students…i was accepted to both, but my name was not on there</p>
<p>[UC</a> Berkeley’s ‘holistic’ application review sets the standard for system - Sacramento News - Local and Breaking Sacramento News | Sacramento Bee](<a href=“http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/24/3499621/uc-berkeleys-holistic-application.html]UC”>http://www.sacbee.com/2011/03/24/3499621/uc-berkeleys-holistic-application.html)</p>
<p>This story is taken from Sacbee / Our Region / Education</p>
<p>UC Berkeley’s ‘holistic’ application review sets the standard for system
<a href="mailto:lrosenhall@sacbee.com">lrosenhall@sacbee.com</a>
Published Thursday, Mar. 24, 2011</p>
<p>Thousands of students will log on to their computers at 4 p.m. today to find out if they got into UC Berkeley. Most will be disappointed even many with straight A’s and enviable test scores.</p>
<p>Berkeley and the University of California system as a whole received a record number of freshmen applications this year. Last year, Berkeley rejected three-quarters of the students who applied. Those who were admitted had an average grade-point average of 4.19.</p>
<p>With so many high performers to choose from, how does Cal decide who gets accepted?</p>
<p>Very carefully. And with a lot of work.</p>
<p>Berkeley calls its admissions process “holistic review.” That means a person not a computer read each one of the 53,000 undergraduate applications that came in this year. And it means the university considers more than just grades and test scores when scoring applications.</p>
<p>Admissions officials look for evidence of leadership skills, dedication to community service, pursuit of special talents and how students have responded to the opportunities and hurdles they’ve faced. Other UC campuses look at those features, too, but many of them use computer analyses to admit some students, assigning points to different parts of the application.</p>
<p>Berkeley was the first to give each application a single score and make sure all applications were read by a person when it began holistic review 10 years ago. UCLA followed a few years later. Irvine and San Diego have phased it in over the last two years, and Davis is planning to use the holistic method next year.</p>
<p>Process hit as subjective</p>
<p>UC officials say holistic review is the best way to differentiate between applications when competition is fierce, as it’s long been at Berkeley. As more people apply to college and the state cuts funding to public universities, competition is getting stiffer at many UC campuses.</p>
<p>That’s why UC’s Board of Regents in January told all campuses to use the holistic admissions process in place at Berkeley, which has become a model not only in California but across the nation.</p>
<p>“(Berkeley) was one of the first institutions in the country to implement holistic review in a high volume environment,” said Barmak Nassirian, associate executive director of the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers in Washington, D.C.</p>
<p>“Historically it’s been a feature of highly selective liberal arts colleges that can afford to pay that kind of attention to individual folders.”</p>
<p>Since Berkeley began holistic admissions, Nassirian said, the University of Washington, University of Wisconsin and Oregon State have followed suit.</p>
<p>Critics have said holistic review is too subjective and that UC’s use of it amounts to an attempt to skirt California’s ban on affirmative action in college admissions.</p>
<p>But a 2005 analysis by a Berkeley scholar found little support for the claim.</p>
<p>Berkeley’s director of undergraduate admissions said the university is looking for “diversity in its broadest sense.”</p>
<p>“Being an engine of social mobility, we want to have students that represent the broadest cross section of not just socioeconomic demographics, but also geographic demographics,” Walter Robinson said.</p>
<p>High school data included</p>
<p>Application readers do not see students’ race. But they do see lots of data Berkeley computes to put each application in a broader context.</p>
<p>First, application readers look at data about the applicant’s high school: How many students qualify for free lunch, are not native English speakers, complete college-prep courses and apply to UC.</p>
<p>On the next screen, the applicant’s grades and test scores are ranked against three groups: other students from their school who applied to Berkeley; the entire class of applicants to Berkeley; and other students from their school who applied to any UC.</p>
<p>“What we’re always asking readers to do is understand our pool (of applicants). And given the applicant student’s context, where does that applicant fall in our pool?” said Susan Pendo, Berkeley’s assistant director of undergraduate admissions.</p>
<p>Context is critical in holistic review. A student who takes three Advanced Placement courses, for example, would be seen as ambitious if his high school offers only three AP courses. But a student who takes three AP courses at a school that offers 20 might not be viewed as favorably.</p>
<p>“Lots of applicants to Berkeley have a 4.0,” Pendo said. “What we’re looking at is, what’s the strength of that curriculum? What’s available at that school? Is it a 4.0 on the most rigorous program available?”</p>
<p>This way of reviewing applications is so much work that Berkeley hires 75 seasonal workers at $19 an hour to help read applications for two months a year. They include high school counselors, retired principals, and graduate students.</p>
<p>Seasonal application readers do not make final decisions about who gets in to Berkeley. They score applications, which are then ranked into bands. Most applications are reviewed by two different readers. If their scores are very different, the application is read a third time.</p>
<p>The ultimate decision is made by Berkeley’s full-time admissions staff. And even though students now learn their fate by logging on to a website, Berkeley still sends old-fashioned letters, too.</p>
<p>Robinson said that about 1,000 students a year challenge their rejections.</p>
<p>“It’s hard if you are the parent, not to mention the student, who has that super GPA, over-the-top test scores and you didn’t get an offer,” he said.</p>
<p>"Those are very difficult conversations to have because parents have been making plans for their children since the day they were born, and then someone like me sends a letter saying, ‘I’m sorry to inform you .’ "</p>
<p>Editor’s note: This story has been changed from the print version to delete an erroneous reference to Berkeley being the most selective UC campus. Corrected on March 24, 2011</p>
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<p>Interesting Editor’s note: “Editor’s note: This story has been changed from the print version to delete an erroneous reference to Berkeley being the most selective UC campus. Corrected on March 24, 2011”</p>
<p>Great article</p>
<p>Can’t wait till 4, even though I know I’ll be rejected</p>
<p>im having that same feeling…im not goin to be suprised if im rejected =(</p>
<p>So I guess statistically UCLA is more selective than Berkeley? it would make sense.</p>
<p>Just an hour left guys! All the best to all of us! :)</p>
<p>And now that the hour is here, reveal the truth…you had a pay-per-click deal with google on this thread, didn’t you? Come on…what a gold mine!</p>
<p>UC mouse, thanks for the article.</p>
<p>Now guys: Don’t be affected by what rider said, yes, each year at S’s high school there are ppl got in Berkeley with 3.5 W GPA. With over 30 years real world experience, I must reassure you guys the list is legit. As a matter of fact, older S goes to Cal, and he thinks it is legit, but we are keeping it quiet at the moment so S can find out himself.</p>
<p>So hold your head up, especially Wong tong tong, your has contributed to this thread so much!</p>
<p>Yes, we’ll all find out in 30 minutes. Good luck to all.</p>