My son will likely choose Ohio St (admitted in the Dec round) but we are still waiting to hear if any merit. I would also like to know if he gets Direct Admit to Mich St Broad and IU Kelley (with petition) before making a decision. However, if those stretch out into April he will likely move on with Ohio St.
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Our son leaning towards OSU Fisher as well. We didnt apply to Broad but wondering if we still should-i think deadline is Feb 1. We are waiting on WI and MI.
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What major did he apply to at Michigan?
We did business at all schools–thats his focus.
Got it - a lot of kids apply LSA-Econ for Michigan since Ross is extra competitive.
Hi everyone! Since this topic kind of got kicked off the IU thread . . . thought I’d pick it up over here …
If I added your name here in error, I apologize, just trying to gather some of those talking about similar things. @MG92130 @lvl1992 @tsbna44 @Switt0993 @lovetractor @QQsubs @PepperMilo
Knowing that different Big10s have specialities/areas of focus for different things … How do kids know what they want to do?! Does anyone have any ideas for how to expose a high school senior to supply chain mgmt? Or a resources that might explain all the different majors within business? Is there anything beyond school websites that you all have used?
I feel like through high school classes my son has been exposed to accounting, marketing and finance. But even finance has lots of different areas of specialization. I think MSU’s website does a pretty good job of explaining the various tracks they have in finance.
I am sure that the colleges don’t expect kids to come in knowing exactly what they want to do … but at the same time I think they may have to start applying to competitive clubs during freshman year. And I’m cringing at the thought of passing up MSU with good scholarships to be full pay at IU if my kid later decides to do SCM. I think he’s pretty confident on finance, but he is only 17. (Full diclosure: When I was 17, I applied to colleges with the goal of being an MD/PhD in biochemistry. I am currently a lawyer. So I get that plans change. )
My much younger sister has a Masters in Engineering from Tufts. While working on her undergrad I got her an internship in IT project management through my friend who was in HR at a Wall Street company. She was never able to shake that internship. Despite her Engineering degree companies just kept seeing her as an IT project manager. So, tbh IDK how important your major is…it is so dependent on the need in the market at the time you graduate. There are many studies that show those who graduate during a recession take 10 years to catch up to earning with those that graduate in a strong economy.
Also, many finance people go to grad school. IDK if a masters is needed in SCM?
I’m sorry that doesn’t really answer your question.
In situations like this, take the money. It’s the only hard data you have.
Since this is for Big10 Business, anyone mind sharing stats? Below is our updated admissions journey:
3.7 UW, 4.0 Weighted
3 APs, all honors
Captain Soccer HS
Worked all 4 years - part time
Hoping Essay is his difference maker
Test Optional
Marketing
Pitt (Accepted, DA to B School)
Mich State (Accepted, Presidential Scholarship, waiting on Broad DA)
Indiana (Accepted, but submitting Kelley Review Request for DA, test optional, but this will be a huge reach)
Wisconsin-Madison - waiting to hear, but a reach
Kentucky - Accepted, pre-business
Auburn - Deferred
USC (South Carolina) - Deferred
TCU Deferred
Elon - Accepted pre-business
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As an incoming freshman at these big schools, I think finding a fit from a university perspective is more important than deciding based on major. You want to enjoy those 4 years! They all have really good career outcomes. My oldest is at IU and switched from Finance to Accounting - in hindsight we could think that UIUC would have been a better fit for Accounting but he loves it at IU so all good.
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What state are you from?
North Carolina, where are you from?
Wisconsin 
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We don’t have much of a shot from OOS, but my kiddo lit up when we were in Madison. We only offered 1 OOS visit before acceptances and that was it.
Supply Chain is interesting - I think so many don’t know what it is - and it is so many things. For example, in grad school, I remember one example they used was at Wendy’s - you have one line that twists and turns and then you get to the counter…whereas at Mickey Ds, they have individual lines.
I suppose Costco is similar. You can get in a cashier line - and you pick it. or if you do self check out, you get in one line - and they get you to the open one.
I think - on a high level - think Costco. You look at a product. Where did the contents come from. Someone manufactured them. Then a company (via a purchaser likely) bought them to assemble, etc. How did it get to the plant? The manufacturer/assembler now makes it - how did it get to Costco? Who bought it for Costco? How was it sent to Costco? To a store or to a distribution center.
Amazon - same thing - how do you order something and get it in 3 hours? Or next day.
I think if you look at examples on line - you can see - in regards to purchasing, logistics, and more. I also think that the degree is very “in” but you can do supply chain without the degree as well.
My industry - automotive - is all about supply chain - from procuring parts - and usually on a just in time basis - to shipping from various countries to a port/yard to getting to the dealers.
We’ve had a seat shortage (for vans) the last few years. Are there other suppliers to source from? If so, has their quality been audited, etc? You think of vehicles - and one .50 part could take down an entire line…
So you can “imagine” the supply chain at work - every time a big truck goes by or Amazon stops at home, etc.
If he got a summer job stocking shelves at Kroger, etc. - he’d be exposed that way, etc.
Kids are 17/18 - so they definitely aren’t expected to know what the want to do. Some do for the wrong (or maybe right) reasons - they see a future - my son and engineering vs. his true love which was atmospheric science.
Clubs, etc. - aren’t a necessity - and if you don’t get into a competitive club - oh well. 95% of the world will end up in the same roles regardless of where they go. I truly believe that. What is a necessity and for most not realistic until after 2nd year - is an internship. Experience begets experience - that is the guy to full time employment at a solid wage - IMHO.
As for you and your background - hopefully you’re a patent attorney!!!
Hope that helps.
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From a 2021 article - so I don’t think it’s unusual at all.
My friend (before he passed) had a Broadcast degree and did IT for a Wall Street bank (this was 2001 - so pre all today’s stuff).
I have a marketing degree…I don’t market. I have marketed. Many business fields (like SCM) can be done with any degree or I suppose many do without a degree - maybe it’s managing a warehouse or in my industry a port, etc or working at one of these places.
That’s the thing about degrees - in the end, many want to see the paper but what it says doesn’t always matter.
Data gathered by the Washington Post suggests that as many as 75% of those with science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) degrees don’t work in their respective fields.
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Love Madison! Fingers crossed for all of us.
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S24 has a lot of friends that were deferred at TCU and USC this year. What’s up with that?! I am thinking that they got more apps than expected and ran out of time and that most of those deferrals will get in during the next round. It’s frustrating for sure. I don’t know where they were in your list, but for S24s friends they were intended as targets (not reaches).
Pitt is a great school to be in direct! That’s awesome!
I wish I had a crystal ball for Broad. That decision-making process could not be more of a black box.
For the schools that you are in pre-business, do they have reasonable pathways into the major? FWIW, prior to Broad starting this direct entry pathway last year, it seems like MSU had a reasonable and attainable path into business. I don’t know how much this new direct entry threw it off.
S24 stats are at the start of the thread. S24 in at MSU (waiting on Broad), direct at Kelley. Will hear IL, WI, MD in 8 days. And that’s all he applied to. He did not set out to apply all Big 10, it’s just that all the others on his list ended up dropping off along the way for various reasons.
I think TCU is getting more and more popular - given it’s standing with Poets & Quants. I do think these studies/ratings bring attention and more apps - although I haven’t seen the numbers. But both students and parents like to see strong placement - and Poets & Quants sells the merits of TCU in this area.
Plus their football team crushed it last year- and that also helps.
It seems like Pitt is just this fantastic, understated school in all areas. Not hard to get into vs. others…but just really really solid. We were impressed with their poli sci program as an example. Engineering, business…it’s all strong.
I totally forgot … Poets & Quants was where I initally “found” TCU, Elon, Denver, Miami (Ohio) - schools that weren’t on my radar and were ranked (1) low for how hard they were to get in and (2) high for outcomes and student experience. And it wasn’t the rank–it was the data behind the rank that P&Q published. That was the best resource for this journey!
You might note that S24 applied to none of those schools. 
But they were all on the list until he got the SAT to be direct admit at Kelley (which also ranks low for admission relative to the strength in outcomes and student experience).
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We are very impressed with Miami of Ohio too and the merit package received for OOS also with direct admit and honors. Campus is amazing too. Not sure if it is “big” enough for DD but we will see what happens with the rest of decisions she is waiting on.
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