<p>If we can have gun control proposals that wouldnt have prevented any of the gun shootings, I suppose we can have immigration proposals that wouldnt have prevented Boston. </p>
<p>Sigh.</p>
<p>Here’s my thoughts for whatever they are worth</p>
<p>Older brother came to the US at an older age when it is much more difficult to assimilate to a new country. His younger brother was happy and assimilated well. Older brother probably clung on to his younger brother and made him feel guilty about having a much better life than he did. </p>
<p>Younger brother started college and as we all can imagine had the same early problems with starting off fresh and not having his high school buddies and support around. He was no longer wrestling and probably felt a bit lost. He was no longer a star.</p>
<p>Older brother gets him at a weak time and starts to fill him with his hate. He has no friends, no one cares about them .</p>
<p>Boston is a tight town. Lots of pride with living there. Lots of college kids with bright futures. Lots of people with lots of money.lots of ethnic groups that are tight. Easy to feel left out.</p>
<p>Where better to strike than the marathon. A huge Boston party that the town throws their arms around. Happy people, happy friends, happy athletes.</p>
<p>So here he is now. His brother is dead. He has had no sleep. He is afraid, angry, exhausted, disoriented with his surroundings and lack of anywhere safe to go. </p>
<p>I think he is in shock at this point. Adrenalin has had to wear off by now. </p>
<p>I also want to say I find this forum such a great place to come for discussion that is polite, intelligent and thought provoking. I am thankful to be able to read this thread and others thoughts.</p>
<p>Except the younger kid had friends, was well-liked, went to Rindge & Latin, not a loner.</p>
<p>Sax, nice profiling. But how does one goes from struggling and trying to lift oneself up by going to school and seeing brother trying to make it through college and become a productive adult to let’s kill a lot of people in defiant and most likely end their lives as they know it? Their lives were not hopeless from what I can tell.</p>
<p>There has to be other force that influence them, some people or ideals that other people put in their heads that this is worth doing rather than keep trying to make something of themselves.</p>
<p>I’m sure authorities are keeping in touch with the suspect’s known links, including the sister and uncle, surveillance, etc. there don’t appear to be many avenues remaining available to the suspect. Hope this resolves soon for everyone’s sake.</p>
<p>It would have had to take A LOT to make most people willing to bomb innocent victims. Hard for me to imagine what that would be to turn someone and radicalize them so much. I don’t understand.</p>
<p>I agree with a lot of that, Sax. But any creature cornered becomes very dangerous indeed, and he has already shown that he is dangerous. Did he have weapons at the shoot out? I have no idea what exactly happened there, whether they had guns, both of them and were shooting. It’s like a bad lottery, where this fugitive is going to hide; hopefully not in some random person’s home. I think there is more to it here than a disgruntled person talking his younger brother into doing this. There are others involved, is my guess. That’s why I hope the young man is taken alive.</p>
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<p>This morning NPR played a snippet from the police scanner, and the cops seem to think he’s wearing a suicide vest. So it sounds like he not only doesn’t intend to be taken alive, he hopes to take others with him when he goes.</p>
<p>So the younger brother fled on foot? Where would he go? He’s the most wanted man in the world right now. I hope the police are looking at the possibility of a safe house somewhere in the area. He may have jihadi friends who might try and put him in a vehicle and get him out of there.</p>
<p>I hope they get him without more innocent deaths. I think he wants to take more people down.</p>
<p>If he has a suicide vests, he may never have intended to get out alive.</p>
<p>Sax–I was thinking similar thoughts about the possible dynamics between the brothers. I don’t have any empathy for either one. If Tamarane influenced and radicalized Dzhokar he certainly had the choice to become estranged from older brother, as it seems other family members may have done. Why would he throw away his own life path, and future if he didn’t personally buy into Tamarane’s hate and violence.</p>
<p>Dzhokar drove over Tamarane with the car, I imagine to detonate the IED Tamarane wore, which implies a strategy to kill/harm as many as possible, even if it means their own deaths. How do you influence someone with a bright future to do so unless they harbor the same hatred.</p>
<p>There are no separate special quotas for family sponsorship or work sponsorship in the DV program (aka “green card lottery”). It is a lottery - names get drawn from a pool of applicants by a computer.</p>
<p>“And that is on top of the separate H1B visas program that provides many hundreds of thousands more slots per year used by mostly highly educated immigrants.”</p>
<p>ttparent, there are no “hundreds of thousands” H1B visa holders - there are **only 65,000 H1B ** visa slots per year (for comparison, DV admits 50,000 green card holders every year). H1B visa holders are not automatically awarded permanent residence status; DV winners are. Just how many foreign PhD students graduate every year in the US? Here are the numbers from the NSF:</p>
<p>[nsf.gov</a> - NCSES Foreign Science and Engineering Students in the United States - US National Science Foundation (NSF)](<a href=“http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf10324/]nsf.gov”>http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/infbrief/nsf10324/)</p>
<p>“So the younger brother fled on foot? Where would he go?”</p>
<p>Just break a window and enter a house or garage. </p>
<p>What doesnt make a ton of sense is hanging around town after Monday. They could have stolen the car and been in Portland or Detroit by the time the FBI got a picture out. </p>
<p>I wonder what the plan was supposed to be.</p>
<p>argbargy, I keep thinking the same thing - why? Run as fast as you can. Unless they had plans for more terror and then death as martyrs.</p>
<p>It certainly appears they want to take out as many people as possible, with as much terror, grief and destruction as possible. Likely both men wore identical vests–why not? The longer this drags out, the less likely the suspect will be captured alive.</p>
<p>^^ Older brother died in a suicide vest. It really makes me think that a clean getaway was not their priority.</p>
<p>arbargy, I think the plan was exactly what’s happening now. A big spectacular ending.</p>
<p>OK, I misunderstood. I am referring to the regular Green Card program, not sure what is the issue now. Yes, the lottery part is a curious program, don’t know the reason why they have it.</p>
<p>H1B quota is 65k but the government gets lobbied by the likes of Microsoft, Apple, etc… and have increased it just about every year, or at least that was what I was told the last time I read an article on it. I am not disputing anything, just want to point out that the system heavily favors the very educated as it is.</p>
<p>H and I were discussing over lunch, and this is pure psychological conjecture, but it may well be that the older brother was the one who wanted the martyr role and the younger was going along. But now that the older and the “team” mentality is gone and he is on his own, though he may NOT be on his own at this point (there are other possibilities), he might NOT want to die. I mean, he’s 19. The body screams against death at that age. Just a thought and not even one anybody is endorsing.</p>
<p>The younger brother could be in ANYone’s house right now. A house to house search of every single residence is impossible. And I, for one, would not want to be the one to find him, so how should this be approached? Check on your neighbors and famiy in the Boston area? If one sounds strained on the phone, or doesn’t answer it , it would scare the beejee out of me right now.</p>
<p>There was no reason to flee to another place until the photos were released. Then it was too late. In another city, they wouldn’t know anyone who might hide them.</p>