Botox! Talk me into it or out of it

<p>For those of you who are giving me advice on my serious thread, yes I am working on finding a therapist for my child. BUT, I have to go to the dermatologist anyway, so I was thinking of seeing if I was a good candidate for Botox. I uploaded the Easter pictures and I am looking gaunt and wrinkled. Very tempted to try Botox before graduation.</p>

<p>Talk me out of this…or talk me into it.</p>

<p>USC researchers find Botox impairs your ability to read OTHER people’s emotions.
This could be good or bad, depending on your POV.</p>

<p>[Botox</a> impairs ability to understand emotions of others: News Release](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/newsroom/news_release.php?id=2391]Botox”>http://www.usc.edu/uscnews/newsroom/news_release.php?id=2391)</p>

<p>Interesting. But I’d be fine by phone or text?</p>

<p>I wouldn’t consider it under any cirumcstance, but who am I to tell someone not to do it? Is it strictly vanity, or do you feel like your having work-related issues from growing older and want to stay in the game?</p>

<p>SPEW!!! :wink:
I am going to a plastic surgeon’s open house next Tuesday. I want to have a skin tag (?) removed from under my eye before the wedding. I will probably ask about Botox while I am there or even some skin peels.</p>

<p>go lite–no North Dallas full blown botox. Look around HPPC. That might help you decide.</p>

<p>I had never considered any type of “work” before this year. I’ve heard that many people have things done, but I never have. (I barely keep up with haircuts, and I get a pedicure about every three years.) </p>

<p>Those on the '13 thread will remember that a doctor tried to talk me into an eye lift and I was very interested but didn’t do it. But it made me think…if I can look better, should I?</p>

<p>OK, eye lift sounds scary to me. I can’t stand how all these woman who’ve had work done look the same.</p>

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<p>LOL, 07Dad (good to see you BTW), how do you know that those women aren’t my role models? I was at the Genesis Women’s Shelter luncheon today and was looking closely at the head table…have they or haven’t they?</p>

<p>I wouldn’t do it. I have a big issue with idea of forcing “apathy” onto any muscle. Here’ my question: if you stop a muscle from moving, and yes the lines on the facial skin surface smooth out, what then happens to the underlying muscles of the face over time? Wouldn’t you experience more sagging in the years ahead? I am a physiologist and come from the standpoint that muscles are intended to be used. I see people that have muscle atrophy after knee surgeries and it takes an incredible amount of effort (PT with weight training) to get the muscle mass to increase again. Often the mass of the leg that endured surgery will never again match the muscle mass of the opposite leg. The skin will droop more in the quad muscles especially. So although Botox will smooth out the lines from a lack of movement in the face, I would not advise anyone to destroy the tone of the face. Look into Photofacial treatments and other types of laser treatments that stimulate collagen production. Especially because you say you look “gaunt”. There is so much they can now do in the way of lasers to encourage collagen and resurface wrinkled/sun damaged skin. Talk to your dermatologist about all the options, because some lasers are better for various issues. I’m not down on using what ever we have available now, but Botox isn’t something I would use.</p>

<p>Botox can now be used as a migraine medication…</p>

<p>I have a friend in Dallas who I saw in October. She looks fabulous. She said she gets both Botox and restylane (sp?) (the filler). She said she has a REALLY good doctor and she does not look frozen or fake at all! If you want me to find out who she goes to, I can. I didn’t see any of the “look” 07DAD is noting (and I know exactly what he means).</p>

<p>I’ve seen a lot of women who have done it with success. My issue is (1) needles and (2) you have to keep doing it if you want to keep the results.</p>

<p>How much do Botox injections cost?? Have no clue!</p>

<p>Well, in Dallas it is the called “the drive up price.” Price depends on what you drive up in. if you drive up in a Maybach, Astin Martin or Bentley Continental GT, it costs less than a shifter knob.</p>

<p>I had a nurse practitioner inject Botox last year for a vertical line I have between my brows. ( I am very near sighted & I squint a lot) It didn’t hurt, took about 2 or 3 weeks to really show effect but it looked very good for several ( about 6) months.</p>

<p>I would do it again as he was very reasonable but he is no longer doing it.
It was about $300 for a very deep line & well worth it, IMO.
It has now come back so I have to find someone else to fix it. It makes me look angry and tired & I am not!</p>

<p>I have that vertical line, too!</p>

<p>Californian here, so I’ve seen the full range of Botox in effect. My conclusion is that a little Botox makes a huge positive impact. The problem is that people get so inspired by those early good results that they go overboard, and then ending up looking like the Real Housewives of Orange County.</p>

<p>C&P’ing my response from 2011 thread. </p>

<p>Missy, I am thin and it really shows up in my face even with the 10 pounds I’ve put on (which I needed badly.) I just can’t afford $500 + every six months - it’s bad enough I have to have my hair colored every 4 weeks now.</p>

<p>The one thing I can tell you is if you are going to do it don’t wait. Like muscle memory there is wrinkle memory and the longer you have the wrinkles the harder it is to get rid of them with any injectable. I had no idea until my dermatologist, who is working on getting rid of the dark circles under my eyes with an experimental laser treatment she is testing, told me.</p>

<p>My sister has been getting Botox in her forehead for 15 years but nothing the doctor could do (and she tried lasers and botox) worked on the wrinkles in her neck.</p>

<p>Missy - it is tempting isn’t it? Sometimes I think when we are in the middle of what seems to be an unending crisis we look for ways to just FEEL better. I don’t know, maybe it was because I was so bogged down with my folks that I decided to go for braces. Wouldn’t change anything, but at least I would look a little better. </p>

<p>Maybe I will join you! And MoWC - that restylane (or whatever) sounds good too! North Minn and I should have a joint appointment before our weddings this summer!</p>

<p>A little bit of botox makes you look like you’ve been on vacation and have been sleeping very well. A lotta bit of botox makes you look like you are standing in a permanent wind tunnel watching a train come at you! A little bit of botox makes you look interested and a lotta bit makes you look angry and judgemental.</p>

<p>I live in an area where everyone has it done. I think every doctor offers it. Gyney and botox, regular doc and botox, oral surgery and botox. You want something that looks more like this :cool: and less like this :eek:</p>

<p>Good luck.</p>