Botox! Talk me into it or out of it

<p>Not an option for me - my deep furrows are horizontal over my eyebrows. Relax them and I would look like Renee zellweger at age 80.</p>

<p>Brilliant German (sounds funnier) scientist: EUREKA, I HAVE EET! VEEY EEENJECT THEES MATERRIAL KNIWN TO CAUSE BOTCHULISM INTO DERR FACES!</p>

<p>That right there^, speaks for itself…</p>

<p>I tried it once several years ago when my dermo had a special offer. I only tried it once because it only lasted 3 months for me and I didn’t want to spend that sort of money that often. I think it’s okay if you go light as others have suggested. It’s temporary and it’s no sin to cheat nature a little. Have you seen Frownies? Celebs swear by them and it’s a simple silly thing that really works.</p>

<p>Near sighted, sun sensitive, and had field hand furrow between the eyebrows. I was sick and tired of strangers commenting on my angry look :(. Just a bit of botox has softened my look. It also took away the infrequent migraines. Dermatologist just gets the bad furrow, I still have horizontal movement with emotions.</p>

<p>Keep in mind the study mentioned in an early post. The gist of the study was that we use our own facial muscles to relate to others’ facial expressions-emotions- paralyzing those nerves takes away ability to relate to others. Think flat affect, not being able to understand what the other person is showing.</p>

<p>I read someplace that after a certain age it’s either bangs or Botox. I’ve got bangs.</p>

<p>My dental assistant admitted to having used injectable filler a bit, and stated was better than botox, as the filler plumps out the area around wrinkles, and seems to make faces a little less haggard. It lasts much longer as well. She looks great. </p>

<p>Wisc75, guess botox is not good for those of us in the helping professions.</p>

<p>To second EliKresses, I find it ironic that in the age of organic food, no pesticides, no hormones, no nitrates, “natural” everything, etc. people would actually have poison injected under their skin.</p>

<p>Glad someone else shares my thoughts on the matter haha.</p>

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<p>I share the same sentiment. What gets me is the some of the same people (IRL) who are all about staying healthy, exercising, think medications such as statins are evil have no problem doing this. Even though Botox has been used to treat certain medical conditions since the early 90’s, it’s only been in widespread use for cosmetic purposes for the last 6 years or so. I read the original study for FDA approval - it only looked at side effects that occurred within 12 months. There has no study of the long-term consequences of using this stuff over many years. The one study that totally freaks me out was done in Italy a few years ago. They injected Botox into the whisker area of mice and then autopsied them. The Botox had traveled to the brain stem! That’s scary, IMHO. Remember how many decades they prescribed hormone replacement therapy as not only safe but as a wonder drug for women before they discovered it caused breast cancer. Remember how they thought silicon breast implants were fine until many years later women started reporting major illnesses that were caused by the silicone migrating to other areas of the body. At this point, I will let other women be the guinea pigs for Botox and injectable fillers. I can live with my wrinkles for a while longer.</p>

<p>I did see a recent study that showed that getting botox in certain places actually causes wrinkles in other parts of your face - which makes sense because when you lose the use of certain muscles, other muscles have to work harder to compensate.</p>

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<p>BTW - Botox is only approved for injection in the line between the brows. If you are getting it injected anywhere else, it’s being done ‘off-label.’</p>

<p>Not everyone who gets Botox is happy with it. Many women report side-effects. On realself dot com only 64% of the women who did it would do it again. Many other cosmetic procedures have much higher ratings. Reading the comments about Botox was eye-opening for me. For example, one woman reported she had double vision and had to wear an eye patch for three months after getting an injection.</p>

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<p>Anyway, just my two cents. I’ve thought about this long and hard, read medical journals and tons of reviews about it. I’m not convinced at this point that this stuff is safe .</p>

<p>My stylist knows that my desired bangs length is long enough to cover my wrinkles. I don’t mind the laugh lines (aka crow’s feet) but I do not appreciate that around my lips the skin is starting to look a little prune-like.</p>

<p>I had bangs for years and years but it is hard to keep them up. To be brutally honest, one of the most upsetting things about Princess Diana’s death is that she was a woman my age who wore bangs…I knew I could always count on her for age appropriate hairsyle ideas.</p>

<p>Yes, upkeep is a bore and I have had to learn how to trim my own bangs. The trick is to do a tiny bit at a time, then a little more each day until they are right. And cut up into them not across your forehead. My mother gave me some multi-blade scissors for shredding paper. Tried those on the bangs, very comical but not really a good idea!</p>

<p>how I trim my bangs is I hold the section of hair out from my head which makes it more layered- also because the hair there is rather thick & I want the bangs to be lighter, I hold the scissors vertically and cut just about 3 or four times.</p>

<p>Im sure alot depends on the skill of the practitioner & of the quality of the toxin.
I didn’t have any problems at all, but then I was conservative in my expectations & in the use. It has been used for decades to treat various things- but it is always good to investigate pros and cons of any procedure.
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<p>While I am finding out that a lot more women color their hair to cover grey than I realized, I haven’t heard of any botox parties or people going in regularly.</p>

<p>I just want to have the one line taken care of- I suppose I could try a filler, but then that could shift- I will ask my dermatologist about it when I go for my mole check.</p>

<p>I also looked at the Frownies at the drugstore. It seemed to basically be tape that you applied to your skin to train yourself not to tense your muscle. Doesn’t seem that it would help to reverse an existing deep line.</p>

<p>I have bangs. My hair is straighter than the shortest line that connects two points, so I use a curling iron to give my bangs a little wave. </p>

<p>EK, what I learned from my D is that one can walk into a Gene Juarez salon and ask for a bang trim. A stylist will do it for free (but I usually leave a $5 tip). :)</p>

<p>Emeraldkity - that’s exactly what Frownies are, but I think how they work best for me is that I was mostly creating those frown lines at night in my sleep, and that’s many hours when those lines don’t get reinforced and created now. I find that they don’t get rid of the lines, but they are much, much less, and yes, maybe I caught them at an earlier stage than your line is. But they’re cheap and easy, so you don’t have much to lose trying them. You’ll know within a couple of nights whether they’re any use to you.</p>

<p>Oh yeah, I also have bangs…</p>

<p>Why not? Just start small and avoid the frozen face look.</p>

<p>I’m a lifelong bang wearer. A couple of tricks I’ve picked up over the years (if you want to trim them yourself) and don’t want that severe straight bangs look:</p>

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<li>buy a pair of thinning scissors/shears from a beauty supply store. This will cut your bangs into subtle layers.</li>
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<li><p>pull your bangs straight out and twist them. Then trim them. This will vary the length ever so slightly.</p></li>
<li><p>it’s a lot easier to cut them wet. If you cut them when they’re dry, you are likely to end up with uneven bangs.</p></li>
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<p>Frownies - Renee Russo swears by them. I have some but feel silly wearing every night, though I might pull them back out. </p>

<p>My dermatologist said you really can’t use Botox for those lines around the mouth unless you want to walk around drooling. I believe fillers are the only thing currently out that will help with that.</p>

<p>There’s been a rash of celebrities who are claiming they aren’t going to use Botox anymore because they don’t like the way it makes them look. I wonder what affect that will have on the general demand for the stuff.</p>