<p>could someone help me with the ricin plot line. Why did Jesse have the ricin in the first place, and where did he get it?
( I should not watch breaking bad when tired- easy to forget these IMPORTANT, PIVOTAL DETAILS) </p>
<p>Walt’s confession— stunning twist. made me yell at TV.</p>
<p>Also, didn’t Walt arrange a “ummmmm what do you call it a hit” on Jesse? I couldn’t believe he didn’t realize it as he stood in front of that graveyard motif behind him. What was that ?</p>
<p>Jesses’s revenge completely believable to me, but not to the reviewers in the article below. </p>
<p>The videotaped confession was very reminiscent, for those who have watched the excellemt British series, Sherlock, [spoler alert] was very reminiscent of the last episode where Moriarity frames Sherlock by attributing his own crimes to him. </p>
<p>I’ve been re-watching Weeds with my son, and after the plane falls out of the sky, he said, “Has Gilligan thought up anything himself?” There are also conflicts with Mexican kingpins, a relationship with a DEA agent, and the rise from a being a local pot dealer to a drug lord. Weeds came out a few years before BB, and Gilligan has said he tried never to follow it or be influenced by it. </p>
<p>Don’t get me wrong, Breaking Bad is a great show–better than Weeds-- but there seems to be a lot of borrowing. Shakespeare never came up with an original plot either, so Gilligan is in good company. </p>
<p>I’m not even saying that Gilligan consciously or unconsciously appropriated others’ ideas, but with some set ups there’s a limit on ways to go.</p>
<p>Jesse always thought Brock was poisoned by Walt with Ricin - he told the doctors to check for ricin. When they determined it was from a plant he thought he made a mistake and to his relief believed that Walt wasn’t responsible after all. </p>
<p>Now that he knows Walt killed Mike he realizes of course that Walt was responsible for Brock. I sort of lost the chain of custody of the ricin too other than that Jesse needed to keep checking that it hadn’t gotten back into Walt’s hands. </p>
<p>We know the house doesn’t get burned down and that the ricin ends up there. Jesse is a dead man and it looks like he knows it.</p>
That’s what the guy who recaps the show for televisionwithoutpity thinks, too, but I’m not sure. Sometime in season 4 when Gus threatened Walt’s family, Saul really pressured Walt to disappear, saying he had a guy who’d do it for $125K per person - which is why Walt went nuts when he discovered that Skyler had taken the cash from the crawlspace and given it to Ted. Saul used the same code phrase last night that he had given Walt - needing some kind of specific industrial vacuum part. So I bought that this was Jesse’s chance to walk away.</p>
<p>I guess I can also buy the flash of insight theory about Jesse realizing that Walt poisoned Brock, but I’m going to look up where the ricin’s been from the beginning when I get a chance.</p>
<p>I was on another forum talking about this moment a lot last night. </p>
<p>Massive spoilers throughout end of season 4 - this episode. Stop reading if you don’t want spoilers.</p>
<p>The idea is that Jesse almost killed Walt back in season 4 when he thought Walt poisoned Brock with the Ricin. It had to have been Walt that would have done it. Why would anyone else? Walt was able to convince, at that time, that it was Gus, but it was on a very shaky basis. After he found out it was lily of the valley and he found the Ricin in his Roomba, it was all just too convenient of a coincidence for Walt. Jesse accecpted it was coincidence, because, well, how could Walt have taken it? But this is something Jesse had to have been thinking about for a while. Well, once hule stole the weed from Jesse (which he realized when he reached into his pocket and it was gone), Jesse realized that Hule could take it. Everything just kind of clicks at that point. </p>
<p>It is kind of a leap to have the audience put together what’s going through Jesse’s mind though. It’s a lot to process in the literal seconds in which it happened. Especially since it borrows on events from episodes that aired 2 years ago. One extra scene what helps lead the way would have made things much better IMO.</p>
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<p>That’s not my interpretation of that “disappearing guy” scene. At this point, there’s no reason for Walt to need to put a hit out on Jesse. If Jesse’s leaving and starting a new life, there’s no issue. There’s no way for Walt to foresee that Jesse would have put Brock’s poisoning together at this point.</p>
<p>Also, disappointed they were doing Alaska instead of New Zealand. Anyone remember back when Jane was in the picture, Jesse and Jane were going to run away to New Zealand. Would have been nice to that sort of connection in the show.</p>
<p>Speaking of trips to far away places, after Saul and Walter used Belize last week as a metaphor for offing Hank, the nation of Belize has offered free trips to Gilligan and eight cast members. </p>
<p>"Many of us are big fans of the show and can’t wait to see what happens over the last six episodes,” the tourism board wrote in its invitation. “While we hope that some of our favorite characters don’t get ‘sent on a trip to Belize’ in the show, we do hope you will take us up on the following offer – we’d like to send all of you on an ACTUAL trip to our country after the season is over.”</p>
<p>I am going to go through withdrawal when the season ends. This is by far one of the best series I have ever seen. Love the symbolisms, plot twists, the Tarantino-esque scenes and the tremendous acting.</p>
<p>It also seems like Hank is digging himself in deeper. Now it is known at work that he was interfering with the interrogation of Jesse, and Hank looked defensive and lost another opportunity to confide in someone who could help him…Walt’s monstrous ‘confession’ may indeed end up putting Hank in prison.</p>
<p>I was confused at the van scene. I couldn’t figure out what Jesse was looking for. My first impression was that he was looking for the phone and that it had been lifted, revealing to him that the van was probably not taking him to a new life, but ending his life. I was surprised it was the Ricin. It seems like a weak part in an otherwise strong story. Why would Jesse be thinking about that at that moment? Also, I would have preferred for him to figure out something that was true – yes, the Ricin was lifted from him, but he knew from physicians that the kid was not poisoned by Ricin. It was just somewhat confusing. There were a lot of ways to make Jesse turn on Walt, this seemed somewhat weak to me.</p>
<p>Jesse wasn’t looking for the ricin while waiting for the van–he was looking for his weed, and realized Saul’s henchman (Huell?), at Saul’s instruction, had lifted it from him when he bumped into Jesse in the doorway–which made Jesse realize that Huell had excellent pickpocket skills and had previously taken the ricin cigarette when patting him down. Yeah, it’s insanely far fetched that Jesse put all this together in a minute while looking for his weed and staring at his pack of cigarettes. The whole ricin story line doesn’t make a whole lot of sense–but I guess even a show as great as Breaking Bad will have it Achilles heel.</p>
<p>What everyone else who had a plausible opinion I talked to thought was that, as evidenced by Jesse’s actions as of late, he’s probably been thinking about all the bad things that have happened. That season 4 encounter where Jesse wanted to kill Walt was one. All indications pointed to Walt poisoning Brock, but Walt was at the time able (again, on very shaky grounds - I don’t think Jesse ever really fully bought it) to convince him that Gus did it. When it turned out that Gus didn’t and he would have had to have been left to thing about this insane cosmic “coincidence” he had to have been extremely skeptical. Some major part of him probably still thought Walt did it somehow, but he couldn’t really put everything together. Seeing that Hule has stolen his weed made him put it all together.</p>
<p>mimk6, I thought Jesse was looking for the phone Saul gave him as well, and when he realized it was gone was when he knew for sure they were going to kill him. That whole thing was pretty confusing.</p>
<p>^ I don’t think that was a throwaway though. One of the men washed blood off his shoe (Declan’s?). Walt would be insane if he knew Todd was talking and joking about the train robbery in a public place - or at all probably - and we haven’t yet seen his reaction to Todd’s call.</p>