<p>…what do you think Miami should be ranked? </p>
<p>Wharton, Stern, Ross, Haas, Tepper, McIntire, McCombs, Kelly, Kenan-Flager, Cornell, USC, and WashU are almost definitely better than Miami - and that’s 12 schools already. </p>
<p>Plus, 40k average graduating salary isn’t exactly something to write home about</p>
<p>US News ranked Miami 47th.</p>
<p>i have to say, good list Alexandre. apologies accepted believersmom, what are you trying to prove? there is no shock or horror</p>
<p>Where are you finding the “recruiter” rankings? I don’t see it anywhere.</p>
<p>Yeah, miami isn’t too sweet of a place to go to, really 40k starting salary can easily be achieved with nearly any business school.</p>
<p>“Recent Miami graduates have gone to work for companies such as Banc One, Baxter International, CINergy, General Electric, the Kroger Company, National City Bank, Procter & Gamble, and Sherwin-Williams”</p>
<p>that’s nice, but most people here want to work for goldman sachs, citigroup, McKinsey…etc.</p>
<p>Random dude on street:“I work for Banc One! How successful I am! Where do you work at?”</p>
<p>CCer: “You suck, I work at Goldman Sachs. M&A.”</p>
<p>a sick amount of people here have great ambitions. and Miami wouldn’t make top 20 for “wall street recruiting rank”.</p>
<p>what is the net worth of those two businesses you “own and manage”?</p>
<p>^ a piece of underwear and a penny tats cut in half HAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH just kidding :)</p>
<p>Ouch, u guys are ripping believersmom apart.</p>
<p>I’m just asking out of idle curiousity, no intent to malign here…</p>
<p>i was just stating the matter of fact THAT a LOT of people HERE on this board want to go to colleges that are recruited by investment banks and consulting firms, and that working in the Krogers Company wouldn’t satisfy their desire to be successful and elite.</p>
<p>people on CC are a bunch of elitists.</p>
<p>Untilted: LMAO look whose talking Mr. UVA. People on these boards would love to go there me personally. LMAO cc is just hilarious sometimes…By the way its thursday man go out and party for god sakes.</p>
<p>believersmom, you might want to consider both undergrad and graduate degrees when you provide your list. </p>
<p>For example, the first person on your list-- Brad Alford, CEO of Nestle–did go to Miami for his B.S. degree in business–but he obtained his MBA from Indiana University at Bloomington in 1980.</p>
<p>The second person on your list C. Michael Armstrong got his BS at Miami but did advanced business studies at Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Another person on this list, Richard Smucker got his BS at Miami, but his MBA from the University of Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>Thomas Stallkamp, received his BS and MBA from Miami, but received his PhD from Georgetown</p>
<p>Of the other eight, only one has received their degree since 1960, so where are the recent accomplishments? </p>
<p>One person on your list, Marvin Pierce, graduated in 1916!!!–though I presume you put him on here since he is George Bush’s grandfather.</p>
<p>Ease up there, Calcruzer. You don’t just become a CEO of major a major corporation a few years after picking up your undergrad degree or MBA, dude. It literally does take decades in most cases. Dot coms/Dot bombs excluded, of course.</p>
<p>engdude,
Anyone with a degree prior to 1960 is now at least 68 years old. (22 at graduation, plus 46 years since 1960). If they haven’t made CEO or President by now, they are not likely to make it anytime soon.</p>
<p>I would have expected the Miami list to at least include a few people with degrees from the 60s and 70s–instead there are only the people who I mentioned have their MBAs and PhD from other major schools–and one lady who runs Victoria’s Secret catalog division (and she, by the way, does not run the retail stores group–which is separate).</p>
<p>Check out the lists from places like Wharton, Stanford, Harvard, Indiana, Virginia, MIT and the like and it’s another story. I think Harvard alone has something like 37 CEOs at Fortune 500 companies–and Wharton something like 32. That’s a world of difference.</p>
<p>P.S. After visiting Miami University’s website, I see believersmom just copied the list they provided there for top Miami business people–so I can’t really fault her too much.</p>
<p>Really then who cares where you go to undergraduate school right? If those people got degrees at great schools but only had a bs at a “loser” school like miami of ohio, why wouldn’t anyone go to Podunk U, get good grades, work a few years and then go to a good grad school? </p>
<p>Now that’s not really what happens now is it, Miami of Ohio must be pretty good at something if they can place a lot of graduates at schools like that.</p>
<p>Actually, I agree with you farbdogg71–Miami must be doing something right to be placing a lot of people that go on and are extremely successful with other well-known MBA/PhD schools. </p>
<p>But you are missing my point–my point wasn’t that Miami didn’t deserve credit for providing a good business undergraduate education, my point was that you couldn’t just automatically place Miami ahead of all these other schools–that is, places like Penn, Indiana, Georgetown, and the like with good MBA schools were likely to also have good undergraduate business schools as well. And I would think that if someone was successful, it might be equally because of their MBA training as it was because of their BS training. Therefore, not all of the credit for these people succeeding should go just to Miami University.</p>
<p>“people on CC are a bunch of elitists”</p>
<p>myself included.</p>
<p>There will be the occasional person who goes to a so-so undergrad school and end up going to Wharton for their MBA, but that is very rare. People need to stop taking these cases and thinking they apply to everyone. </p>
<p>The few cases that Miami U advertises shouldn’t be called a lot of people that go on and are extremely successful with other well-known MBA/PhD schools." It’s more like a handful. Take a look at any well-known undergraduate business school and they could probably offer you a book of data about how successful their graduates are.</p>
<p>Getting into Wharton isn’t where you went for undergrad: it’s what you did. Sure, if you went to McIntre or Stern it’ll help a little bit,but if your career is in a rut, you aren’t getting in. Getting into MBA programs are about professional accomplishments,not the undergrad brand name.</p>