I was academically suspended from a grad program. Will I be able to receive federal aid for a second bachelor’s degree, if I don’t meet SAP requirements at the graduate level?
If not, will successfully completing 30 credits at a community college put me back in good standing to receive federal aid at the graduate level? Or, at the undergraduate level for a second BS?
For a 2nd bachelors, you would get loans only…and only if you haven’t exceeded the aggregate amount.
I would suggest you get a job, at this point…not get a 2nd bachelors.
you cannot complete credits at the associates degree level or bachelor degree level to get back in good standing at the graduate level. If you have been kicked out of your program, it is pretty much a wrap that unfortunately your school does not feel that you can be successful at the grad level.
If you used loans for grad school you may have already exceeded the aggregate amount for undergrad. You will have to disclose hat you were suspended from the grad program in order to be admitted into a second degree program.
Perhaps you may be better served putting school on the back burner for now
I don’t plan on hiding anything, but aren’t the undergraduate and graduate loans kept separately?
Considering that completing undergrad credits won’t help me receive aid at the graduate level at a different school, then why should my grad standing or lack thereof, affect my aid at the undergraduate level?
I meet SAP requirements at the undergraduate level, but not the graduate level. Even if my one and only grad semester is considered with my undergrad I still meet SAP requirements.
That’s fine. I received loans the first time around. I only received loans for two years of undergrad. The other two I paid for and completed at a community college.
I am considering a second BS in computer science. Hopefully, I will be able to complete paid internships and co-ops along the way therefore reducing or eliminating my need for financial aid.
I can’t find a job because I have no skills, relevant experience, or network. A second BS will give me this.
Sorry…but EVERYONE has work skills of some kind.
With your existing bachelors, you can take computer science class while you work at whatever job you can find. You don’t need to major in CS to find work. I wouldn’t continue to add to your debt.
Do you have a Green Card or are you a US Citizen? Do you read and write English (you clearly write)?
You can get a job. It might be scary- but you can do this. It’s no harder getting a job-- for real- than it is to be applying for all those paid internships and coops you were planning on.
Just do it.
Unsubsidized federal student loans are the only aid available for second bachelors degrees.
What was your grad program? What did you do to get suspended? Why do you think anything will be better in a new field of study? Think those through.
@CheddarcheeseMN has good advice. Take whatever job you can find, and pick up the comp sci classes on the cheap at your local CC. Check what they have to offer in boththe credit division and in continuing education. They may have good options for you that can quickly get you into a better job.
I have a job, but I want a real job that makes real money.
Sallie’s started knocking at my door and my good ol’ Uncle Sam wants nothing to do with me.
I’m a US citizen.
I have no skills.
I can’t get a good job without experience. I can’t get experience without an internship. And, I cannot get an internship without being a student in a degree seeking program.
I messed up my first time through college. I floated through, learned nothing, and did nothing beyond what was required of me.
I’m going to do it right this time around. I’m going to network and study hard.
I did just recently fail out of grad school due to lack of trying, but I’m hoping to kill the bad habits which continue to lead to my failure. This really is my last chance to get it right.
I was enrolled in a data analytics MS program. I failed everything the first semester so that placed me on academic suspension. I failed due to a combination of procrastination, laziness, and chronic depression.
The only thing that’s changed over the past few months is my level of desperation. I don’t want to be a huge failure.
Hopefully you are getting therapy. What was your undergrad major?
You are not a failure. You failed. And now you are going to turn it around and succeed. Successful people succeed and that’s what you are going to do.
Going back to school because it’s the only thing you know is a terrible plan for you right now. You need to change the dialogue in your head.
Do you have a math degree? If so, you can get a job teaching math at a private school (first grade math?) most of them don’t require a master’s degree at least initially. Have you taken any psychology classes? You can get a job with a market research company which conducts focus groups and other qualitative research techniques.
Tell us what your BA is in, where you live, what kinds of jobs you’ve applied for in the past and we can help.
You have a Bachelor’s degree. You can start in an executive training program for a car rental, hotel, restaurant chain, theme park. They require a BA in anything. You will be taught what you need to know and if you are hardworking and show up on time, are pleasant to people, you will get promoted quickly and the work gets more interesting and better paid.
you can do this.
@TomSrOfBoston Mathematics… I can barely multiply now.
No. Therapy does not make me feel good. It just makes me more depressed which is why it is not for me.
Your first order of business is to get the right combination of talk therapy/medication/other to get your chronic depression under control. When your mental health is in order, you will be able to see your unfortunate semester of grad school in perspective, and will be able to determine how much of what went wrong was due to simply choosing the wrong grad field For that time in your life, and how much was due to depression.
But meanwhile, as you work on the mental health, any job will do. Flip burgers? Ok! Something related to your undergrad major? Ok! Run a political campaign for the elections in November? Ok! Get yourself out of the house. Make some money. Take time off from that not-a-good-fit-for-now grad program (no one who wasn’t helping you pay for it needs to know why you left). Think about not-college things for a bit. When/if it is the right time to go back to school, you will know.
You do not need to suceed in a big way, or in any particular timeframe. Take a deep breath. Allow yourself the time you need to get things done the best way for you.
I’m going to step off my soap box now. I appreciate your help (everyone).
I do not think I am educated enough in the simplest of things therefore I do not want to teach. I don’t want to be responsible for a child’s poor education. I guess I will just have to bend the truth and fake it until I make it. I really don’t want any more student loan debt anyway.
Some people achieve great result with medication alone for depression. Others use a combo of meds and talk; some people add holistic techniques such as yoga or biofeedback. But the goal of therapy is not to make you feel good. The goal is to give you tools to deal with your depressed feelings and how to alleviate your symptoms so that you can move forward.
I take it you don’t love math???
There is nothing we can do to solve these issues if you aren’t willing to be part of the solution yourself.
Figure out what you CAN do…not harp on what you CAN’T do.
No. I don’t love math. I chose it because I was ready to be done with school, so that I could graduate in four years time.
Background: I went to a community college for my first two years of school with hopes of transferring to an engineering program at a local state school. Since the community college had an agreement with this school’s engineering program, but actually no intro level engineering courses, I would have still had to complete four years at the state school after doing two years at the cc.
I was over school at that point, but still wanted my four year degree. After searching through various degree plans, I saw that I could graduate with a mathematics degree two years after completing my associates, which is what I wanted. So that’s why I chose math because I had already completed calculus l- lll at the community college.
Now due to always procrastinating and cramming, I really don’t remember much math or anything for that matter.
You’re right. You’re right.
Thanks. I know. You’re right. I just need to stop comparing myself to others. It just depresses me more when I see where my former high school classmates are in their lives.
But success won’t come easy for me, especially with my extremely introverted personality. I have to work and grind for it.