<p>Why are you calling them “witnesses”?</p>
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<p>The kid was shot in the head. At close range. While his hands were in the air.</p>
<p>Out of curiosity, why do you say the “black” kid?</p>
<p>“Lets assume brown did get in an altercation with the cop, and the cop shot him while in the car. After brown and his friend started running AWAY, the shooting should’ve stopped.” </p>
<p>Aren’t cops supposed to stop fleeing dangerous felons? I don’t think they are supposed to just let them run away. Also, hands in the air is not fact, yet. That would be a problem for the officer if it happened, though.</p>
<p>Osprey, no need to insult people to make your point. I was simply posing a question about twitter. If nothing else, the person who made the posts would likely be a credible witness for the prosecution. </p>
<p>But if the cop didn’t know about the shoplifting, he isn’t a dangerous felon (he isn’t a felon even if the cop knew about it). He’s just an 18 year old.</p>
<p>@hayden, that is an awful story. @flossy, for doG’s sake, stop and thing about it for a minute.</p>
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Going to? It already is worse, don’t you see? This case surpasses the Martin case in terms of reaction time and public reaction. </p>
<p>They are calling it a strongarm robbery because that is a violent felony.</p>
<p>“Witnesses”? Why the quote marks? This was broad daylight with many people around. </p>
<p>The twitter conversation is interesting. It appears to be an eye witness, telling his friends what he just saw moments before. He says he didn’t see a reason for the shooting, just saw Brown running, then shot in the back twice. Then Brown turned around and got several more times. </p>
<p>I think the number of shots, the distance they were fired from, and the way they entered Brown’s body will tell most of the story. </p>
<p>True Nyquii, because Sanford never did sink to the awful depths of what happened in Ferguson. Never in my 21 years did I think I’d see something like that in America.</p>
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<p>The author of the twitter post can be called to testify. I’m bright enough to know that.</p>
<p>The police department showed little interest in interviewing the witnesses. Specifically, Brown’s friend who saw the whole thing – a key witness by any definition – was not interviewed by police until Wednesday, 4 days after the shooting. </p>
<p>“The kid was shot in the head. At close range. While his hands were in the air.”</p>
<p>I wasn’t aware that the autopsy had been released. That statement will be easy to prove or disprove from the match between hole in clothes to holes in body or arms.</p>
<p>@Flossy, we already know your thoughts. At what juncture was Brown deemed a felon? The chief already said the cop didn’t know about the theft. And sorry, I’ve seen two other witnesses interviewed that he had his hands up and the cop kept shooting. One girl was not from the neighborhood, she had no skin in the game. </p>
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Yep, and I’d imagine that no one wishes it had more than the cop. </p>
<p>As the facts roll out, it may become apparent to some (not all) that it took two for this to have happened the way it did. Same for the complaints about “infiltrating hooligans” and the St. Louis County response. Less stupidity on all parts would be a wonderful thing.</p>
<p>Cardinal - I had to watch it and it was heart wrenching. I wanted to run out there myself and comfort him and at least close his eyes. That isn’t jaywalking that is a neighborhood street like mine in front of my suburban house. That would be like shooting my 17 year old for playing in the street in front of the house. It’s a project or other multi-family housing development not an arterial for gosh sakes! I have no idea how his dad wasn’t rushing the street - I would have and I’m not his mom.</p>
<p>I genuinely believe a revolutionary event must come to surface if POC want to see equality. If what happened to Mike Brown doesn’t ignite something, anther event will. It will happen, though. When? We’ll have to see how much more people are willing to tolerate. </p>
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<p>Agree, sally. Interesting that they’re so reluctant to release any of that information, and yet “needed to” release a video implying a justification for the shooting. </p>
<p>Osprey, those are the unanimous statements from multiple witnesses. None have been disputed by the police. Everything they’ve done and not done for the past week has been aimed at protecting the department. If autopsy results exonerated the officer, those would have been released today instead of the video. </p>
<p>Flossy, the police’s rights regarding shooting people was dealt with in the beginning of the thread. The consensus of the lawyers was that the police may shoot a fleeing person only if that person presented a danger to the policy or the community at the time. </p>
<p>As for “dangerous felon”, I think that’s a bit of a stretch, no? </p>
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<p>At the time Brown was stopped, the cop had no knowledge Brown was involved in shoplifting. As for your suspecting him to have assaulted the police officer, that’s very speculative…especially considering there are witnesses who weren’t known to the victim and his friend and not connected to each other reporting the same thing. </p>
<p>That and the fact Ferguson PD’s cops have had a documented past history of police brutality and even lying about it in court testimony which you seem eager to ignore. </p>
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<p>Although my father tend to be like flossy and be favorably disposed to believe LEOs, the Diallo case was such even he was outraged at the conduct of the 4 cops. </p>
<p>A large part of this was that he served as infantry officer for 2 years as part of the mandatory service back in his origin country and felt it was outrageous the cops involved felt the need to use 41 shots to subdue/kill Diallo. </p>
<p>In his estimation, the fact they used that many shots on one man shows their training wasn’t up to the level he and his infantry platoon were expected to train to and maintain and they were mostly fellow conscripts like himself, not elite soldiers. </p>