It does appear that Case is become the “hot” school. I think the school leadership is selling Case as a less stressful, more student friendly (albeit less prestigious) version of their Pittsburgh rival, CMU.
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Congrats! Is there any international student here that received their ED II outcome?
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Did all potential engineering majors get an invite to The Engineering Game event on 2/23?
(Son applied EA and was deferred.)
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I applied for Bio (and also got deferred), and I got the same email.
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Is this one of the online events from CWRU? If yes then everyone gets them. CWRU does look at demonstrating interest so attending these type of events can only help.
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Thanks! Best of luck to you!
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My child has an acceptance and scholarship from CWRU. Out financial situation changed overnight (see SVB collapse), does anyone have an idea on how to reach out to them for increased merit aid? is that FA or Admissions? And what to say - this is all so sudden….
Typically, if your financial circumstances change, you reach out to the financial aid office for a reevaluation, or a special circumstances consideration.
Is there a reason you were asking about increased merit aid rather than increased (need-based) financial aid? Maybe you are saying that your financial situation is worse off than you were before, but still not bad enough off to qualify for need-based financial aid? If that is the case – that you still don’t think you would qualify for need-based financial aid— I am not sure which office to contact, unfortunately.
Contact the financial aid office and see what they say.
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thanks
Yes, they’re trying to model what GIT and Northeastern have done (yes yes, folks can shoot me down or criticize me, I’m just making an example).
GIT has gone from strong school to now very high rank/sat/etc. to boost rankings, etc. And still a good school. Similarly Northeastern has done the same. These schools kind of play on the fact he we may not be MIT or Harvard… but we’re right there for you. << anyone just chill out, this is only half thought out>>
Similarly, CWRU, where I attended is NOT in the same league as CMU… but it is trying to do just like you said, pick really high stats kids, somewhat well rounded… and really focus on YIELD.
Personally, I think its crazy if its true the consider expression of interest based on if one opens emails, etc. … that’s nuts… my kiddo’s emails all get quarantined by his high school… probably won’t get into CWRU as a result… and that’s okay!!!
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1990’s … CWRU competed on AIDE… big time. So so so many kids on half scholarships.
Now CWRU has realized that many kids want to attend as a backup school to the top-dawgs… so they realize they can fill their seats (supply/demand) and will opt for more full pay.
I was shocked to find out how few scholarship there were at CWRU compared to 30 some years ago… I was way way way worse of a student… and received more scholarship/aide/waivers then offered today.
No data… just my experience from having attended CWRU and being around the school for so very long…
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Anyone know date/time of RD? I think we heard it was Saturday the 18th… is there a time?
I certainly don’t know for sure but I do know that most of their Saturday decisions have come out around noon eastern. EA in 2021-22 came out during the week and at night.
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I was shocked to find out how few scholarship there were at CWRU compared to 30 some years ago… I was way way way worse of a student… and received more scholarship/aide/waivers then offered today.
I don’t know about 30 years ago, but for the last 20 years the % getting Merit is consistent. we can see it was pretty consistent. But you are right that the avg SAT is up!
Freshman/total 1st yr getting non-need based merit according to Common Data Set and avg of how much they get:
2022: 545/1552=35% $29,108 Tuition & R&B: $82392 = 35%
25th % 75th %
SAT Evidence-Based Reading 680 750
SAT Math 730 790
2012: 348/1371=25% $ 23,372 Tuition & R&B:$55178 = 42%
SAT Critical Reading 600 720
SAT Math 660 760
2002 231/836 =28% $8852 Tuition & R&B: $31602 = 28%
First-time freshman test scores
25th Percentile 75th Percentile
SAT I Verbal 590 710
SAT I Math 630 730
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My son is practical and knows our budget limits but has expressed that he feels Case Western is the best fit for him if we could make it work financially. With generous financial aid ($8,000) and merit ($43,500) this brings our COA to $31,600 which is a fantastic price for CWRU but still over budget. On top of that, he now has 2 schools sitting at $16k COA which is SO tempting! Out EFC is $17k (lower than usual because we will have 2 in college next year-but for one year only.)
- My son applied for the leadership scholarship (extra $3k) music scholarship for non-majors (up to $10k) and presidential (full tuition.) Each is a long shot but any idea when they notify for those?
- Is there ANY chance we could negotiate for more money? Most people who tried in recent years tell me they get a polite no unless something major has changed financially (like job loss) or their child did something amazing (such as curing cancer!) and got a bump in merit. Just want to adjust our expectations accordingly.
- We are worried the $8,000 financial aid will disappear once my daughter graduates college in 2024. Pretty sure the bulk of that is because we have 2 in college. Is there any way to guess financial aid in Year 2, 3, & 4?
- Do they stack outside scholarships? I assume any outside scholarships would be subtracted from Financial Aid so he’d have to accumulate over $8k to have anything “count” towards reducing our COA?
The reality is that Case Western really does seem like the perfect fit/college for my son (he is still waiting on his dream school Northeastern but I almost feel CWRU is inching up above NU in his mind recently based on how he gushes about Case) BUT it’s sitting at $12k above our budget goals-which we vowed to stand by! As it is, we will have to take out a small PP loan for even the cheapest option. My son understands the importance of keeping undergrad debt low (his goal is a PhD in clinical psych) and that Case Western is probably too far above budget to make it work, but he definitely hopes for an extra scholarship or a successful appeal for more money-basically a miracle. Just thought I’d ask these questions now as we approach the final 6 weeks of this crazy process! Thanks for any insight.
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It sounds like you already received the highest regular merit scholarship that Case gives? I may have missed something, but I have not heard of any family receiving more than the $43.5k that you report. Most received merit in the 20s or 30s and are looking at a higher COA. I am not sure if it would even be possible to increase regular merit above the max, so if you need Case to offer more money, I would guess that it would have to come from another line item such as leadership, music, presidential, or financial aid.
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Yes, that seems to be the highest level of merit. The 2 lowest COA colleges on his list take all of his high school credits so he could easily graduate in 3 years vs. 4 so I am trying to get him to focus on just working very hard at the college he chooses and focusing on getting into a really strong grad program. He thinks it might be harder to get into such schools if he attends a lesser known, smaller school but I think he would still have lots of research opportunities and get good recommendation letters with such individual attention given. Wish we could justify the price tag but a psychology path is different than engineering in terms of salary and paying off college loans.
I went to CWRU and being the youngest child instead of graduating with a $10K loan had foolishly garnered loans of about $100K… and this was 30 years ago so I was naive how much debt I had.
I was very lucky to immediately get a job with a strong salary to start like $75K as an engineer… and I just HAMMERED away on the loans and paid off in 2 years. For me, while I and most classmates were mostly miserable… those that had better foundations to start all but breezed through the school of engineering… the rest of us that “just survived” mostly graduated with 3.5GPA, etc.
Now 30 years later, at $30K / year COA, that’s a no-brainer… I would do it… but then again I’m not sure if that’s a good idea to have $120K of debt for a pscyhology degree… but depends on HOW COMMITTED and certain kiddo is to chase the PhD. If your DS is confident and you know him well enough to go beyond CWRU and get his PhD… my unsolicited feedback is take the leap of faith and go to CWRU. If you as parents pay a bit a long the way and get it to less than $100K he owes… to me, no brainer.
I think you can call the office of financial aide and say something like I need $4k/year more please help or something… try to negotiate with them. My parents did this and got a small amount more. Better to watch a few youtube videos to educate yourself before you call.
At this point, he has the offer… and yield is their concern!!!
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Interesting. I don’t understand the merit as you’ve written… can you elaborate?
i.e. total cost and average non-need based tuition nets cost of attendance?
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