CC Flip El Cajon Adobe

It has been so long since I could sit down and post a project update. A lot has happened out at the El Cajon Adobe project. It is the project that just keeps giving!

When the laundry room floor drain backed up, the owner’s son (without my knowledge) called in a plumber who was a friend of the painter’s. $3,800 dollars later they cut the saltillo tile in laundry room floor and only replaced a p trap that was under the floor and then replaced one of the sink drains in the adjoining hall bathroom. To replace the sink drain they hacked open the drywall behind sink and never patched it up. Meanwhile, it appears that all of the clogged gunk from the sink drain just spewed everywhere under that cabinet and they never cleaned it up!!!

This prior plumber warned the owner that the cast iron under laundry room and hall bathroom was clogged, cracked and disintegrating. So, an emergency fix turned into a big issue. For some reason none of this was communicated to me because only the painters were working at the house finishing the painting. Next thing I know she sends me two quotes from plumbing companies to dig up under these bathrooms and replace the cast iron. At this point I had no idea how far the cast iron ran under the house, which rooms were affected and how much had to be dug up. I also warned her that it was going to be a giant domino effect because someone could have to dig up a lot of floors which leads to new flooring, etc.

So, two companies gave her bids for $10,000!!! She sent them to me and just asked what my thoughts were. I told her ‘I cannot in my good conscience let you spend $10,000 for this. I will do everything I can to divert resources over and get this done for you’. But, I warned her that laundry room would have to be completely torn apart, so that morphed into a full laundry room remodel job.

So I had to break away two resources to go over to the house. Here are the steps we took:

Pulled out laundry room cabinets on wall adjoining hall bathroom, including the sink and sink cabinet.
Opened up drywall between rooms
Dug huge trench under adjoining wall - we found the old main cast iron drain running under this wall
Hired a camera scope to come out and scope the line. We got lucky and discovered that kitchen and master bath were draining in new ABS lines separately to main sewer line under driveway. This isolated the mess to just laundry room plumbing and hall bathroom plumbing.
Cut open old cast iron main line and then ran water through kitchen and master bath to double triple check that they were not draining through this old line

Then we discover something strange… turns out the floor drain was really an old shower and bathroom that used to be in the laundry room. For some reason they never capped off the plumbing for the old bathroom when they did the laundry room addition in the 80s. Oddest thing, there are capped shower pipes sticking out of the wall and the drain was just left in the floor. But the worst part is the $3,800 plumber who fixed ONE THING put in a threaded sink Ptrap underground! This brand new Ptrap was completely leaking under the floor. He installed wrong part.

And then we discover that the sink drain line they installed in hall bathroom was never vented!!! They did not connect the sink drain to the existing old copper vent going through roof. At this point I am livid that she got ‘taken’ by some plumber that did a horrible job. She’s really mad and asks me to call the guy. So I get the job of calling some guy and just reaming him out and trying to get some kind of refund. All he was willing to do was come back and ‘repair’ it. It was our decision to cancel the floor drain line so it didn’t do any good to have him come back and fix that and we were already replacing everything under the house so I just did not want the guy near us.

In the end it took us 1 week to tear everything up, install brand new ABS lines for both areas, close it up and level out with concrete. Cost $3,100!!! Owner was really grateful. But, unfortunately one of the hall bathroom mexican sinks (clay, not porcelain) cracked when he was trying to disconnect pipe under sink. For some stupid reason this really upset the Son who lives there because the sinks are ‘special’. I explained that these sinks are sold by the hundreds along the roadside to Ensenada and they are thin clay. So, I get to spend weeks trying to find a sink that matches the existing one. No luck (without crossing border and driving up and down the roads in Baja). So, we ordered two new sinks (I had to pay for one of them) and two new faucets and get them installed into hall bathroom. Still trying to clean up the mess prior plumber left under the sink and get the drywall patched in the back of the sink cabinet.

So, now we are back to laundry room remodel. This laundry room is going to be so beautiful. It is actually as large as most kitchens. I loaded some photos, but it is covered up with a lot of paper and hard to see just yet. The hideous red formica countertops are going to be painted with some special countertop paint.

Funny story… I cannot be out at El Cajon very often. My tile guy finished up the shower tile and sink backsplash area and wanted to send photos. He made a cute Tik Tok video of finished tile work. I cannot load it but it was set to music and everything

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The other major accomplishment out at the El Cajon project is I won the battle to paint the living room ceilings. After careful inspection I realized that the pine ceiling had been painted a dark brown in an earlier life. Then someone sand blasted the ceiling which chewed up the pine wood. It was very ‘fuzzy’ with texture, not smooth like the other ceilings in the house. And, the sandblasting failed to remove the dark brown paint from the heavy knots in the ceiling. So, the wood was sandblasted with dark brown knots everywhere. It was a really distracting texture and color.

The son was adamant about keeping the ceilings natural wood. I tried to explain very neutrally to him that the ceiling had already been painted, and the knots were still painted. Then he wanted us to ‘stain’ the ceiling. But, there is significant water damage in the ceilings from a prior roof leak. Staining the wood would ‘emphasize’ the water damage lines. That wood would not take the stain evenly. Plus, the painted knots will not take any stain so it would just get worse.

So, we had the ceiling completed prepped, masked off, etc and he comes running in and tries to stop us from painting the ceilings. I had to call his Mom in the middle of a work day. I never never want to do that because she is an extremely busy lawyer. She actually answered the phone and said two words Paint It.

Photos loaded and my personal opinion is that the ceiling is gorgeous. The beams and rafters are now the star of the show, which they should be. The ceiling itself just fades out. Note that the photos of the ‘before’ are with staged furniture

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As soon as the laundry room is painted and everything installed then we are moving onto a big kitchen remodel. One with a big budget!!! Very exciting for me. I’m always working with such a tight budget. She is being very patient and waiting until we can get over there after completing the OB project.

After kitchen we have to install all new flooring throughout the house. She keeps trying to jump the gun and put in new floors but I explained that she is moving the kitchen island so flooring just has to wait until kitchen is done.

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Does this mean there WILL be new cabinets in that laundry room? Is this the huge one with all those louvre door cabinets that I really thought needed to go? Or is that the other house?

Glad you got things fixed.

The college student son sounds like a PITA.

The painted ceiling looks fabulous!

No, louvered cabinets are staying because there is just so many of them. It is costing them about $1,500 to spray them white with oil based good paint versus probably at least $15,000 to replace them and then have to replace countertops. They opted (at husband’s insistence) to use some countertop paint stuff to just repaint the formica countertops.

They love ‘modern’ which really does not go with the house. You should see the furniture they are moving into the house. It just does not go! But, it is none of my business. So the new tile is a modern aesthetic.

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White will look a little better than brown!

Thank you for confirming that the ceiling (and the whole room) look much better painted white. It was a real controversy and I didn’t want to make a mistake!!!

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The white ceiling definitely looks way better. The wood kind of screamed “deep woods cabin” to me, and distracted from the view. And white will certainly work much better with modern furniture.

Sounds like the college kid is in a bit of a power struggle with his mom. He should just be intensively grateful that she bought this fabulous house for him to live in.

Darn it, now I can’t find the link to this project. Can some one just post the extension part of the link or pm me please?

Sent

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It is beautiful!!! Still can’t believe that a college student is getting to live there.

The beams pop so much more with the ceilings painted and the room looks so much more inviting!

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The Son (who is probably maybe 21) is all involved because I guess he thinks he is going to inherit the house and will have to ‘undo’ to get back to cabin rustic. What 21 year old is ever going to be living in that exact same spot in his career 30 years from now? The whole thing is stupid.

Kid is a slob. You should have seen the laundry room when we tried to start working in there. I finally laid down a date… your stuff is out of laundry room by X or we don’t start. I kept that between him and me because I didn’t want to ‘rat’ on him. OMG. I think he just piles all dirty clothes or whatever in that laundry room. There were clothes at least 2 ft high on every surface in there.

The college student needs to be moved into the guest house…and he needs to become more tidy and also mind his own business. His parents are paying for this!

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I need the link to pictures too please!

Glad I’m not the only one ; ). I messaged you.

Thank you!

The painted living room ceiling is MUCH nicer Glad you won! I tend to like natural wood in general but that was a bit of a mess! Whole space looks brighter and cleaner. Makes the beams a nice feature.

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Definitely better with white ceilings!! :sunglasses:

I agree with everyone else. The white is better. It makes the rafters and beam stand out and the ceiling look higher.