Let me ask differently…how many B’s in core classes? (core = english, science, foreign lang, math, soc studies). Any C’s or W’s? Which AP calc did he take? If AB, does the school offer BC? What math does he have senior year? Will he have 4 years of classes in each of the 5 core areas?
I agree with tsbna’s more likely school suggestions.
As for UVA, that is not direct admit…would he be comfortable taking that risk of secondary admission? (holistic to business school)
UNC K-F and Michigan Ross are primarily direct admit now, I assume he applied for direct admission?
IMO I would drop UC Irvine. What majors did he apply to at UCB and UCLA? Does he have one year of fine arts for the UC schools?
And just to be clear, did he apply EA to Ga Tech and UGA? (assuming he is a senior) Did he make the EA apps for the rest of the schools that offer that round?
With regard to Georgia Tech. Being In-state is obviously a plus. The SAT is on par for in-state, but my only concern would be the 3.7 GPA looking at GPA averages for the 2029 Class. Georgia Tech’s in-state acceptance rate is one of lowest of all top publics at 30% (UNC 43%, UT -Austin 41% , UMich around high 30% range). Your DS is definitely in the game. Good luck!
I think you may be slightly stronger of an applicant than people are giving you credit for, but that may not change your list or outcomes. I like your odds at UGA, GTech, UF, and UC Irvine, regardless of their categorization. I also think you may pull a reach or two, but that may be after a long process including a late-in-the-game waitlist acceptance.
I am seeing you as a math oriented almost all A- business student with difficult classes and high SAT’s (750,770 math, guessing). People are potentially getting swayed by your less than exceptional AP scores and overabundance of A-’s vs A’s (which I do not think colleges care much about tbh), so those may not hurt you; I would likely forget that the 3’s happened because you won’t be sending them to colleges (I hope) in most instances and even if you sent them, many people think colleges won’t judge you by them (I “somewhat” disagree). If you applied ED to an Emory, as opposed to Duke, you would have likely gotten in. Keep us posted and good luck.
You typically give more credit than others do. I was reading the BC ED decisions yesterday. Of course, only those accepted wrote; no rejections. But yes, some GPAs were in the 3.6/.7 range - and normally, many of us would comment that it’s marginal. I believe they were all CSOM.
I so appreciate that you are not all doom and gloom like some of the posters on this board. However, I really don’t think without more context anyone can say that this student has a “good chance” at Georgia Tech. It is a tough admit especially if the student is male and from the greater Atlanta area. We are in Georgia and our private school college counselor considers it to be a reach for just about everyone. I can look at the SCOIR scattergrams for our school and see lots of deferral/wait-list and outright rejections of students with 1500 plus SAT’s and A averages. Add to that - we have no idea where this student stands compared to other students at his school or how many students from his school are typically admitted. For our school with a class of about 90, there are usually 10 Georgia Tech acceptances and all of them with the exception of an occasional recruited athlete have taken BC calculus or higher. Op hasn’t indicated which AP calc their student has taken - but Tech really wants to see BC calculus if it is offered. I’ll also add that objectively 11 APs is rigorous but at many of the high performing public schools in our area the top students take 15 to 20 APs in addition to distance MVC and linear algebra at Georgia Tech.
We have no idea whether this student has taken the most rigorous schedule possible at his school. UGA is a much more likely admit, but even that may not be a slam dunk depending on how this student stacks up to other students from his school. This student may be near the top of his class or he may be in the middle. As I mentioned above,UGA has already released in state EA decisions. Most kids who are aiming higher and using UGA as a fallback already have an acceptance and are not scrambling to find safeties this late in the game.
Carolina has changed it’s admissions process for KFBS this year.
A student would still need to be admitted to UNC in general, but if they checked off the special programs box for teh business school, they will be evaluated for an ‘assured start’ offer. Still doing the general requirements for UNC Gen Ed, but with a guaranteed to start in KFBS as a sophomore. It’s new, so no real information on how selective this process will be - though my b-school connections indicate this is a move to counter the concern over potential losses of high stats / high performance candidates to other strong programs which were already offering direct admissions.
His APs are (weighted score) - Gov (99), Precalc(94), Comp Sci Princ (95), Lang/Am Lit (93), World Hist (95), Calc BC(97), Env Sci (100), Statistics (92), US Hist (99), Pshyc (ongoing), Human Geo(on going).
Conversion tools are helpful and will spend some time to convert, not sure why his school doesn’t make it easy by providing converting transcript.
Plus, he has bunch of Honors classes (Chem, Bio, Lit/Comp) and dual enrollment.
I’d say he has very few B’s, no C’s. Mostly A- or A’s.
Yes, he is currently taking 1 credit of Art for UCs. His majors at all three UCs are business/finance.
I agree with your assessment - Math oriented A- student with good ECs (focused in Business, Leadership, and Finance) and decent SAT (770 math and 750) aiming for Business/Finance major.
ED’d for Duke and regular at Emory. GaTech will be great.
Thanks for sharing this, very helpful! Would you know the distribution of % Admitted by Major? I presume (may be incorrectly) that admitted GPAs will be different between Comp Sci/Engg and Business majors?
UCB has a few different majors but I don’t believe a finance concentration but I could be wrong. Their general program shows Intro to Finance Senior year. They also have a Global Management, Entrepreneurship with both Science and Tech too.
UCLA has Bus Econ…not finance.
UCR does have Finance but it’s not on your list but if you wanted a UC, that would have been one to include.
I suspect, because SATs are used in admission, that UCLA and UCB are unlikely but - well, best of luck.
You seem happy with Ohio State and it’s a fine program and if you applied by Nov 1st, I’d suspect an admit.
But perhaps a second school as noted above might be worthy - just in case.
Either way, good luck and it’s a great student so hopefully all works out.
You raise all the concerns that we have too. He did take BC Calc (97% Weighted) score but he goes to a very competitive North Fulton HS. We fear that his biggest competition is from his own school since GaTech, Emory, and UGA may only take a certain % regardless of overall stats.
He got deferred at UGA EA, hence being on this forum trying to figure out another good safety school given his profile.
He applied to closest to Business major at different UCs. OSU mainly because he grew up there and cheers for Buckeyes. Not a big fan of the school (academically) but has some history there.
Hopefully he gets into UGA RD but wanted to get another school at par with UGA where his chances will be high.
My son did his first year at Purdue - Daniels School of Business, (finance and accounting), though originally admitted through Quantitative Mathematics (or something less redundant) and asked for a major change before enrolling.
He loved it, except for the Dec-Feb winter cold and he coped with that fine. He used a guaranteed transfer to UNC-CH as our instate school as Economics w/ a planned double major or business minor if he can’t get into KFBS. He still loves Purdue and found them to be very highly organized and thorough with their new student entries. There’s quite a health mix of out of state and international students and a lot more racial/ethnic diversity than you might otherwise think of for a Midwestern Farm State School. It’s hard to argue that their STEM majors aren’t quant ready when they come out of school. Plus OOS I think I spent around $55k all in (including all our travel back and forth, laptop, dorm room upfit, and an initial cash account seed money to start off), thus making it a more reasonable OOS option versus some of the others out there.
I think the student is better than most people here do.
I like odds at 4 of the schools, one of which is GTech.
What that means to me is that I think the profile is better than people are claiming and when I like odds, I think about odds. In other words, this student will go 2/4 or better IMO. Agree that GTech may be the hardest admit that I think may work though. Note that IMO the common data set at GTech info is not unweighted, so the student is surely in the top category. Similarly, the test scores are at or above the average. From my experience, many kids like this get in, while some may not. But, I like the odds.
I know of a similar student who got the Stamps Scholarship. I also know one who did not get in at all. My post was less about GTech and more about the applicant overall and chances of admission to many school. Report back to tell us what happens. I look forward to hearing.