Chance Me - and I WILL PROVIDE DETAIL OF PROCESS AND RESULTS IN APRIL [93 GPA, 1530 SAT, business]

Applying to College
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Demographics

  • US Citizen, New England

  • Private high school, Mid-tier

  • D3 Athlete, but applied to schools regardless of sport division

Cost - While merit scholarships are appreciated, cost will be a non-factor.

Intended Major(s)

GPA, Rank, and Test Scores

  • Unweighted HS GPA: Trimester system, with numeric grades. 93 average with 0 grades less than 90.

  • Weighted HS GPA: 4.15 with .3 added for Honors, AP, or AT

  • Class Rank: Top 5% estimated

  • SAT Scores: 1530 (730 and 800 math) - single test (took it 4 other times Soph/Jr)

List your HS coursework

AP/AT TOTAL - 9

  • English: AP/AT multi-genre literature

  • Math: AP/AT Differential equations and linear algebra, BC Calc (5), Stats

  • Science: AP/AT Physics (Calc-based), Physics

  • History and social studies: AP/AT Macro (5), History

  • Language other than English: AP/AT Latin

Awards

Department Award for Economics, Essay Writing Grade Winner, Honors

Extracurriculars

Founder, Basic Needs Non-profit (regional media attention)

Class President

Judicial Board

Co-Captain and All-star, Sport

Head of Campus Tours

Head of Tutoring Center

Co-founder of Entrepreneurship Club

Head of Cultural Affinity Group

Represent private school in numerous leadership activities

Numerous school fundraising accomplishments

Essays/LORs/Other
Please assume all essays, recommendations, and applications are top 10%.

Schools

100% Regular Decision

  1. MIT (Coach support)

  2. Harvard

  3. Penn (Wharton)

  4. Dartmouth

  5. University of Michigan (Ross)

  6. NYU (Stern)

  7. Cornell (CALS)

  8. Vanderbilt

  9. U Texas Austin (McCombs)

  10. U Virginia

  11. U North Carolina

  12. Georgia Tech (Biz)

  13. Georgetown (McDonough)

  14. McGill (Desautels)

  15. U Florida (Biz)

  16. Northeastern (Biz)

  17. Babson

  18. Miami (Biz)

  19. Wisconsin (Biz)

  20. Richmond (Biz)

  21. Indiana (Kelley)

  22. Fordham (Gabelli)

  23. Pitt (Biz)

I would like verification of balanced list (not that student can change it now), categorization of schools, and any predictions (mostly for fun). This is for my student. I am happy to answer any questions you have. PM’s fine. Bluntness appreciated.

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I would say 50/50 at MIT, with lower odds at Harvard, Wharton, Ross and Stern

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I love these “just for fun” chances. Your student is fantastic and I think they will have SO MANY amazing choices. My guesses:

MIT (Coach support) - deny

Harvard - deny

Penn (Wharton) - waitlist

Dartmouth - accept

University of Michigan (Ross) - accept

NYU (Stern) - accept

Cornell (CALS) - deny

Vanderbilt - accept

U Texas Austin (McCombs) - deny

U Virginia - accept

U North Carolina - accept

Georgia Tech (Biz) - accept

Georgetown (McDonough) - accept

McGill (Desautels) - accept

U Florida (Biz) - accept

Northeastern (Biz) - admit to a satellite campus or spring start

Babson - accept

Miami (Biz) - accept

Wisconsin (Biz) - accept

Richmond (Biz) - accept

Indiana (Kelley) - accept

Fordham (Gabelli) - accept. I predict lots of merit and lowest COA.

Pitt (Biz) - accept

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What? No Bentley? :winking_face_with_tongue:

Are you comfortable saying more about the sport and team needs? My sense was that although light overall, some coach’s support is lighter than others at MIT.

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Why CALS at Cornell? The rest of the list says business schools.

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Your child is a very strong applicant to any university on the list and any university in the US.

MIT, Harvard, Penn, Dartmough, NYU, and Cornell are reaches. Your child is academically qualified to attend any of them. You should assume that somewhere between 80% and 85% of the other applicants to these schools are similarly academically very well qualified to attend, and you know what the acceptance rate is for these schools (ie, very, very low). Some of these (eg Harvard) consider legacy status, and if you are not legacy that further lowers your chances. A few (eg, MIT) do not consider legacy status.

You are out of state for Michigan, UT Austin, UVA, UNC, GT, UF and U.Wisconsin, which lowers your chances.

Someone I know got into NEU with slightly lower stats, but that was quite a few years ago and it was not affordable (she went elsewhere, did very well, and switched to a major that NEU does not have – something about a lack of cows on campus). Given that it has a 5% acceptance rate I would still put it as a reach, but perhaps a reasonable reach.

I expect that your chances are quite good at McGill, Fordham, and Pitt, and probably Richmond although I do not know it well. With McGill my one caveat is that they do admit by major, and I am not familiar with the business major there.

I am originally from Montreal so if your child gets in you can ask and see if I can tell you anything about Montreal or McGill in a more general sense. In my opinion it is a very interesting location to spend four years. My understanding is that the provincial government has passed a requirement that 80% of out-of-province graduates from McGill (and the other two English language universities in Quebec) need to have some limited proficiency in French by the time that they graduate, but at least my understanding is that McGill does not place a requirement on individual students. Of course it is possible to learn this while there (for example there are some very good French immersion courses over the summer in Montreal, and also elsewhere in Canada). If your child decides to attend McGill, and if they have a few weeks free in the summer before starting, you might want to see whether there are any French immersion courses available that your child could take immediately before starting university there. This is not needed for McGill, but might make living in Montreal more interesting.

My guess is that Babson is probably likely, although again I do not know it well.

A guess (and predicting the future is risky, and I might live long enough to regret this) is that you will get enough acceptances from this list to require some work to figure out which one to accept (eg, I might wildly guess at 10+ acceptances from the 23 schools on the list).

I notice a lack of an in-state public school on this list. If you are in-state for Massachusetts then it is too late for an application to U.Mass Amherst, but U.Mass Lowell is still accepting applications. At this late date if it were me I do not know whether or not I would bother, on the basis that you will very highly likely get a preferable acceptance from the list that you already have. As one example, with great stats, and with an acceptance rate just over 50%, Fordham seems very highly likely at least to me.

At a private high school your child’s guidance counselor should have a very good sense regarding whether there is a safety on this list, and I am assuming that they were happy with the list. It does generally look like a good balanced list to me.

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Would a “mid-tier” private high school have the college counseling knowledge that is commonly assumed at elite private high schools?

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I wondered about that also. It might depend upon the school.

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I like the confidence you have to test your knowledge! I hope he does that well.

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It is a team where the coach makes a list of 15ish people and hopes to get half. He claimed that his influence increases odds significantly, but absolutely no guarantees.

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Good question. He has involvement with food insecurity so he thought it was a fit.

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We were impressed by the counselor at his school and they have a system that shows past applicants and results. We really considered her input, and also made some of our own decisions.

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At Cornell, CALS includes the Dyson School of Business. Don’t ask me why.

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I believe Dyson is a small cohort within CALS, but you can also apply directly into Dyson. My son applied CALS and not Dyson.

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Great profile. Great rigor. It’s hard to know the unweighted. How many classes were below an A? Is 90 an A or 93 etc ?

In general, as you’re at a private, that matters too.

I don’t understand how to interpret coach support. Sounds great on paper but I would think MIT is a high reach. But if the coach wants you, maybe not.

I’d suspect yes to Michigan, probably Cornell or Vandy or both as well as UVA, Ga Tech and Gtown.

UF just came in. Shocked if not in as well as all the rest. That’s a big list. But UF and down, near certainties.

I think UNC and UT are possible but OOS makes it tougher.

I do think historically we are, as a group, more conservative than you. Now that international is being broken out. It does seem like some schools have a much higher domestic rate than we assume. That can weigh in too.

You really screwed up your list. Way too big.

It’s great to have acceptances but the bigger issue is, then you have to choose. :slight_smile:

The student will have a lot of choice !!!

I do think how tye GPA is interpreted may have impact, especially at the publics.

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i do not disagree on the length. i am not the boss sometimes.

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Pitt is rolling, when did your student apply?

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Pitt is the single school he heard back from. He was admitted to honors.

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A 93 would be an A, according to his school. He has an equal # of A-s and As, but ended junior year with all As.

MIT does not commit athletes prior to acceptance; many get in and many do not.

Not for RD.

Thanks on the choice comment. GPA schools that consider 90-100 as As will see him as perfect. Others will not, I wouls guess.

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Ahhhh he applied RD to UF.

I think UF is near certain but we know at many publics, that’s applying EA.

They don’t seem to have any info related to possible EA preference…at least that I can find. I think it’s newer for them. I don’t recall having EA when my kids applied but maybe I just forgot.

Why did the student wait for RD. Was it a late add?