Chance Me: CA resident, 3.99 GPA (4.00/4.20/4.68 for UC, 4.14 for CSU), 1600 SAT, 1520 PSAT, computer engineering, applied math [home schooled with many college courses]

How many of the schools that you consider to be top universities allow sophomore level transfers?

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I think I have enough college credits that I can transfer to junior level (maybe even senior).

As an example, I am done with the IGETC and have about 5 more classes to complete the requirements for transferring for CS to a UC.

Any help with this please?

This is the kind of research you can easily do on your own. Reach out to the schools and ask.

For some, you may not even pick a major til well after you are there.

If you think you’re the caliber of these type schools, then you can easily do the research to have your question answered.

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I know that. It would be helpful to not spend hours researching if people already know.

well it wouldn’t take hours - and no one has responded.

In general, you don’t want to back door your way into a major.

There are schools you don’t even pick majors and I think Ga Tech allows one freebie change…

But you want to apply to schools for the major you want…otherwise you’ll get there and oops…I can’t study what I want.

If they say no - then oh well - you go to a school that will let you study what you want.

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Yeah. I’m thinking that I would rather do applied math at a top school then be denied for CS. And if I can transfer into CS after being admitted, win-win.

If you want to do CS, then apply for CS.

You are describing a back door.

If you want to do applied math, then do applied math.

Perhaps, worst case you can take classes or do a minor in the other.

But your statement says gaming.

What is it you want to study - if you could only study one.

That’s what you should apply for.

I’m sure in most places if you’re doing one, there’s a way to experience at least portions of the other as they overlap.

If you want to study CS, I’d rather you study CS at Arizona then not CS at UCLA - is what I’m saying.

I’m a fan of major before school. And if you go to a school that said no to you on your major, that’s taking a big risk - for no reason.

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I am basically 50-50 between the two majors. I love both, and they have similar classes. But I heard applied math is easier to get into.

I don’t want to game the system per se. But it would be nice to have flexibility after being admitted to choose between applied math and CS once I actually start taking classes.

Then apply to schools that don’t admit by major. Or find one with a non competitive minor - anyone can do if they meet pre-reqs.

It’s likely easier to add the math than the CS as a 2nd - because it will be in a less competitive college.

So I’d apply for CS and adding a math major/minor is typically not gonna be hard. But the other way may, at some places, be impossible.

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Cal Poly SLO is not too flexible. Easier if you are already in the College of Engineering than in another college and dependent upon which Engineering major if you are admitted into the College. For CS currently, they are only accepting CS change of majors from Software Engineering, Computer Engineering and General Engineering.

There is also one statement common to all change of majors at SLO in that you will need to be eligible for the new major at time of Freshman admission. This keeps student from selecting a major with a higher admit rate and backdooring their way into a more competitive major.

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So, are you looking for merit aid.

These colleges don’t give merit aid. CMU doesn’t either, I don’t think. And if Rice does, it is highly competitive.

And the regents scholarship you might receive for any of the CA publics will not cover your full cost of attendance.

Merit aid at these colleges is highly competitive.

vanderbilt
Rice
Northeastern
Georgia Tech
Case Western
USC
Cal Poly SLO
Santa Clara

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Yes. It does not.

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UC tuition without fees or housing is $14K/yr. Regents scholarships are extremely competitive. They range from $2K - $10K/yr depending on the campus. You can find more info on this thread comparing UC scholarships

Since OP looks like they will be a NMSF, if they are admitted to USC, they will receive the half-tuition Presidential Scholarship. The full-tuition Trustee scholarship is not related to NM and is extremely competitive.

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I’ve heard USC denies some applicants because they don’t want to give the half-tuition NM scholarship.

One can hear a lot of things.

You’ll never know why you get turned down.

But I do know, if you have interest in attending, you have to apply to fulfill that interest.

Instead of looking for every possible secret pathway, build a balanced list which starts with affordable and admission assured schools. They are the most important on your list. Yes, ther are safeties that are plenty desirable and equivalent to harder admit schools.

Then you’ll have zero issues when the time to choose comes.

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@jcha could you please clarify. You say you won’t qualify for need based aid…but a number of colleges on your list give ONLY need based aid.

What exactly can your family afford to pay annually for you to attend college?

Do you qualify for substantial need based aid?

I would urge you to read this thread. It’s an older one, but relevant here. This student was an exceptionally strong student, much like you. But he got rejected from all of his application schools as a high school senior.

You need a sure thing and affordable college…first and foremost!

Please read the entire thread.

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Not true. NM students need to earn their acceptance just like everyone else. Having a good score on one test is not enough for admission. If you are worried about it impacting your admissions decision, you can leave it off of your application. The Common App has very little room for extracurriculars and awards and you seem to have enough without NM.

All applications should have depth and be specific to USC. That’s why I asked if you visited Viterbi. The ā€œWhy Usā€ essay should show that you know the program you are applying to.

If you are sincerely interested in USC, you should log an official tour - both of the campus and of Viterbi. While they don’t use demonstrated interest for admissions, they can use it for scholarships.

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My budget is as much as needed (my parents didn’t give me a number). I’m not sure what ā€œsubstantial need based aidā€ is.

Thanks for the article. I would be happy (maybe disappointed initially) if I only got into the least selective school, which would be UC Davis. I would also be fine transferring to a UC out of community college.

It’s very real you don’t get into your least selective UC although I personally can’t imagine not getting into SCU. I know others disagree. And if you do get in only there, is your budget $80k plus.

Personally I have a hard time reconciling I’d be happy if I only got into Davis, but if not, also going to a CC.

A specific budget # is very important so that you can balance vs the NPCs of the privates.

I think you’ll be ok but you do need specific budget planning and a safety. Of course you can always throw in a Tulsa, UTD or Alabama late if you get into a quandary with NMF.

Young man yesterday - in at UCI, ChemE and more - didn’t handle his budget - like you very vague - found out he can’t afford the school he was starting at in a month - and now has no home.

People push and push on it for a reason.

Vague statements scare me.

Show them the cost of SCU, Case, Northeastern from the NPC and have that chat now. They, not you, need to fill out the NPC. Here’s one.

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