I would of course ED there for the program but it’s just the atmosphere of the city itself. I’ve grown up in NYC and I’ve been waiting for the opportunity to venture out in the world and explore even if it’s only a couple hours away. I understand the prestige but I also don’t want to risk EDing with a high chance of not getting in, then wasting my ED when I could’ve done it to BU.
She’s honestly a very assertive woman but she’s helped me a lot in terms of advice on life stuff and listening to my yapping so I just trust and confide in her a lot.
Honestly I only have 2 weeks left so I just wanted to see what people think but I will definitely look into Babson & try to figure out what I really want.
Thank you so much!!
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So this was the question: are you EDing because it’s a standout choice (imo what should be the reason to ED) or because you’re trying to strategically improve chances of acceptance “somewhere”? If it’s the latter - which it seems to be - then BU. I will note that “strategic” ED seems to be the one that students most often regret.
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Mathematics is a possible major that can lead to a relatively wide range of good careers. There are quite a few things in this world that only work because someone did the math.
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ED is not an acceptance assurance.
If you want to grow and explore outside of NYC, then applying to NYU seems silly.
Outside of class, you won’t have new exploration. You’ve been there, done that.
Outside of niche jobs like Wall Street type things, I don’t think it has prestige’. Nor does that word assure you a job.
You seem to want to experience new - so why would you bind yourself to old ?
Very few schools are seeing a minor drop in student applications - the overwhelming majority of schools are seeing 5%+ increase in applications.
The data shows that to be the case: As of November 1st, 962,284 first-year applicants had submitted 4,716,352 applications - a 5% increase in applicants and a 10% rise in total applications compared to the same point last year. Students applied to an average of 4.90 colleges.
More and more companies have stopped recruiting exclusively from top 20 schools and for students in a place like the tri-state area that is important because they can now better leverage the fact that there are a lot of jobs in their area that are not all going to Ivy league students like they used to in the 80s and 90s and even early 2000s.
Why a school like Fordham truly punches above its weight when it comes to getting a job. You can intern much more realistically, interview without as much hassle…and leverage the local alumni network and school name recognition without being locked out of opportunities because you did not happen to go to a certain school.
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It’s both! Of course I want to go to a good university but also BU because of its location in Boston being not too far from home, in the city, and their sports.
EDing there would be for prestige and would make my parents happier than if I go away…
Ooo okay I will definitely look into that thank you!!!
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I have no idea why you want to ED.
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There are plenty of good university options available to you without having to ED.
I assume you have visited all the campuses. Which did you like the most? Which school”s admission tour felt most in line with what you want (your parents are not spending 4 years at the college you’re going to). If you haven’t done admissions tours imo you should not be EDing even if a school is your favorite on paper.
I know - but you are going to school. Not them. You can ED. I don’t see you getting in. You’ve lived a city life. Maybe you want another city or suburban or rural.
I don’t think NYU’s prestige is all that - no different than Northeastern and outside of Wall Street, no different than Bing or UVM or name your flagship. I think if you want to be on wall street - it’s a big feeder - but not as big as people think. It’s big in volume, because it’s a big school. But per capita, it’s big big but not leading. And if you’re outside the world of finance, I think it’s likely of little recognition.
I’d like you applying more if you said - I love NYU. Their kids overwhelmingly end up in finance and in NYC - if that’s what you want - great. Outside of that, I think you’re buying hype that doesn’t exist.
It’s not for me to change your mind - I just want to ensure you know that you are going to college - and you’ve expressed ideas that are inconsistent with NYU - and it’s pretty clear (to me) that you aren’t destined for finance. NYU, in many ways, is a one or two trick pony, IMHO. See below.
Well - you have enough thoughts. Best of luck.
There you have it . . . In your own words. BU is the place for you to ED of the 3 choices you presented.
In the long run, you really need to address the bolder statements about hating school and “I don’t like doing much”. Your work life will be both more successful and more rewarding if and when you figure out what you do like and integrate that into what you do every day. With this in mind, I support the earlier recommendation that you consider Babson. Because of the way they have designed the teaching/learning experience there, it is a good place to find what you love to do. Both the hands on nature of their learning experiences and approach of working in teams give you more to experience than just theory. They also integrate liberal arts into their curriculum which can broaden your outlook. You can read more about their approach on their website. Babson is not only a superb learning experience but is also highly regarded in the business community.
Best of luck with your journey. 
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wdym??
I really liked BC and BU! BC is definitely the Hogwarts-esque vibe and more secluded while BU is right in the city which I also liked and seemed more campusey than NYU. When I went for NYU we only stepped into the library and everything else was the outside buildings. As for what’s most in line, I think I lean more towards BU and NYU as it seems more diverse & I have friends going to both.
Your friends are your friends - but you are going away to expand your horizons. It’s not about your current friends. You will make new friends and they will make new friends. You don’t go to college to hang out with your hs friends.
So you like BU more than BC, there you go.
But choose a school that you’ll like, not for job opportunities because they are unknown.
Another school to consider might be GW - which is equally as urban.
But NYU doesn’t seem like the right choice - and I don’t think (personally) you should ED at all. I think another you might like is Pitt - which is urban, but has a campus. It’s well reputed, has outstanding career outcomes in the b school and while it’s a bit late (it’s rolling), you’d get in. You might throw in an app - and if you have a chance to visit, go check it out. Since you like Boston, Northeastern is another to check out and Bentley too - like Babson but not as selective. Great outcomes as well. The WSJ just listed Babson as #2, behind Princeton and ahead of Stanford, Yale, MIT and Harvard.
Career/jobs aren’t based on where you attend per se. At my multi national, we had a Harvard Law working for a Fairleigh Dickinson undergrad. I have a top 50 MBA and work for an undergrad school I hadn’t heard of - W Georgia. So you can’t assume success because of a school name. But if you want to do that, then who knows more about business than the Wall Street Journal and jobs than Linkedin, who has the ability to analyze millions of data points.
The point - it sounds like you think certain names will ensure success or are respected (hundreds of colleges are). I hope you visit schools and find the right school….and not limit yourself based on mom, your high school counselor that wants you to show a big name, and your friends. btw - I don’t see NYU on either list - and that doesn’t surprise me at all.
WSJ Rankings for best colleges:
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Stanford University
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Babson College
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Princeton University
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Claremont McKenna College
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Davidson College
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Bentley University
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Harvey Mudd College
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San Jose State University
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Cornell University
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Loyola University Maryland
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University of Notre Dame
Linkedin, which knows a little about what jobs have as their database is crazily big, just put out top schools. Here’s the top 50. So I think you are overstating the significance of your specific names - as thinking they are the gold standard.
Here is the top 50:
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Princeton University
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Cornell University
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Babson College
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University of Notre Dame
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Stanford University
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Vanderbilt University
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Bentley University
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Lehigh University
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Carnegie Mellon University
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Bucknell
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BC
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Nova
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UIUC
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Wake
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Chicago
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USC
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Fairfield
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W&L
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UC Berkeley
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Rice
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Gtown
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Purdue
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Michigan
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Miami Ohio
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Colgate
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SMU
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Bryant
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WPI
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Penn State
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Cal Tech
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Trinity
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BU
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Richmond
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Stevens Inst
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U Texas
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Indiana
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Lafayette
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Providence
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Wisconsin
Yeah… I think it’s mainly due to the NYC atmosphere and seeing all the specialized high schools like Stuyvesant, Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech, etc. Everything seems so competitive these days so I’m just trying to catch up.
But with all my heart, thank you so much for all the advice!! I EA’d to Northeastern already and am still working on my Bentley application. I still have some time so I will definitely rethink all my approaches.
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How about Drexel in Philadelphia?
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I have been holding off on replying to see where the conversation goes. Here are my quick thoughts:
- I understand that you do not feel your school has an unweighted gpa. Whether HS calculates or College “officially” recalculates, expect the colleges to at least eye the unweighted situation. They will determine whether your 3.96 is truly getting a bump for your hard classes and that matters. Assuming there is a bump, NYU Stern is a bit too reachy IMO. BU might be ok. BC depends mostly on your peers at school and how many BC takes from your school.
- I agree with others about not forcing ED. On the other hand, you might just need the very slight edge it gives you.
Good luck!
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Here’s the story of a young girl by me, who went safety (Auburn) over reach (Yale) and is making more $, per payscale, vs either school’s grads at this stage.
Why ? I’m sure she’s exceptional. The school name is secondary. So don’t worry that you don’t get into a reach. It doesn’t change who you are.
My guess is your interests lie more like hers than finance - which is all I’d target NYU for.
But if you don’t end up at one of these three, you can and will still be great - if you have it in you.