Chance me for T20s after not matching [VA Resident, 4.45/4.00 W, 1500 SAT, Fire ECs, -1500 SAI]

only 3 that being brown stanford yale so honestly in hindsight not surprising that I didnt match

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Stop. You got a full ride to an Ivy. I really hope you can see how fortunate you are. You have amazing choices and will walk away with no loans. You are clearly really smart, but you have a few things to learn.

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You had me here - Cornell or any other of hundreds of schools.

What a gift - someone willing to education a student and pay for them to live. That it’s Ivy is awesome - but frankly, Cornell or any other school - how lucky can one be?

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Can you please be happy and grateful over your college admissions?

Not only will it make you more pleasant to be around, you will enjoy the present moment more.

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Thats just my inner dawg talking

Which I think if we are being honest is OK for a moment. It also means that this might not be the school for you if after you visit you do not love it. That it is an Ivy should not be the only reason you choose it.

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He applied to 70 schools. He’s going to get picky? Just joking.

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Wondering if you have a kid that was genuinely qualified for HYP admission? ( I do not mean a valedictorian with a 1600/36 and 4.0) If you did you would understand the blood sweat and tears that went in to that and the life plans the kids make. It was so hard for my kids to find another school they could happily see themselves at. So they each applied to about 35 schools. Luckily and yes I do mean luckily it worked out for them but it does not for everyone.

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All due respect- there are MANY kids now at HYP and similar who did NOT do the blood/sweat/tears routine. They did what they did. They excelled in something because it brought them joy. They participated in things they cared about. They did not hop on the “elite college treadmill” or spend their entire HS career trying to figure out an “impressive” EC.

For those kids- finding match and safety schools is a breeze, except if there are financial issues which I acknowledge makes the process very difficult to predict. Please don’t feed the “Ivy or bust” mentality, for younger students reading this thread. And don’t feed the “you have to give over your whole life to get into HYP” myth-- because all three schools are filled with kids who just did what they did-- and did it well-- and then got lucky that their authenticity was reflected in their applications and resonated with the adcoms.

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just a rando question. I would like to get off the waitlist of columbia by neccesary means. I wrote a good LOCI and posted it to my portal. Should I be doing anything else like potentially snail mailing my letter, emailing my loci to my regional and the admissions email, sending a note “love letter”, or advocacy calls? These are just random ideas ive heard so I wanted to know if it’d be a good idea for columbia

No. Don’t.

There is literally nothing else to do but wait and make a deposit at another school if they go to the wait-list, they will pull those needed to balance the class, not the ones who called the most

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Follow the directions and then go fall in love with one of your other choices. It’s really out of your hands at this point- but YOU can control how you feel about the waitlist, i.e. getting excited about the school you are going to be attending.

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Im fully ready to commit to Cornell, not a worry there :slight_smile:

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All due respect to you there are zero kids at HYP that did not work hard and make a sacrifice or two. I agree that they all excelled at something and had a focused area of interest. Their genuine interest and hard work did bring them joy.
I am responding to you because I feel that you either misunderstood me or chose to be rude. I hope it was a misunderstanding. I am saying as a mom of 2 HYP kids that of course they can get in to match and safety schools but none seem to sing to them the way HYP does and that leads them to apply to many schools. I am not feeding an Ivy or bust mentality because I do agree with you that the Ivies are not for you if you are only applying because of the name of the school. These kids usually do not get in because they do not understand the environment and it is apparent in their applications.
I also replied because it seemed like some of the people posting seemed to forget that this is a kid. A kid who just did not get into their dream school. The posters were not giving them a moment to process this. That is why I asked about if they had kids that were in this tier of admission and again not the ones on your "elite college treadmill” but actual HYP candidates which the OP seems to be. It is OK to grieve for a minute then realize you have great options.

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I don’t think @blossom is being rude at all. What she wrote tracks very well with the HYP kids I know. And given the number of likes her response generated, many here agree with her.

I think we’re getting way off topic. Maybe we can put the “only kids at Harvard, Yale, or Princeton have put in extra blood, sweat, and tears” narrative to rest.

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What do you think is the difference between “actual HYP candidates” and those on the “elite college treadmill”? Look, some people try really really hard to get in and it works. Like the kid who sets their sights on Princeton in sixth grade and makes it happen, or the valedictorian who spent all of high school curating a spike and nabs Harvard. But there are also so many whose admission seems
like just something that happens. I know a decent number of kids admitted to HYP. Many are just normal people, not, for lack of a better term, “try-hards.” They have friends going to less selective schools, or not going to college at all. They have great stats and passionate ECs and incredible essays, and 100% deserve their spots, and are thriving. But they would have done equally well at another highly selective school. I don’t think there is much of a difference- at least when it comes to the ability of the student- between HYP candidates and t20 candidates overall. Look at the crazy admissions results people have. Into Harvard, denied Dartmouth. Into Yale, waitlisted Rice. Into Princeton, deferred → accepted Penn. It’s not like there are seperate “tiers” of applicants at this level, and admission/denial does not always reflect the ability or lack thereof to thrive at these schools.

Also- OP, get excited about going to Swat or Cornell and making some friends. Touch some grass. I get you’re logically grateful but still feel disappointed. But omg, remove yourself from your little bubble of comparison and you’re doing AMAZING. I promise you are going to look back on this thread and a year and cringe your guts out, and that’s a great thing because you’ll be a lot happier.

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Since this poster has indicated that they are committing to Cornell and have a plan for their waitlist LOCI, I am closing this thread. Users are welcome to start a new thread if they’d like to continue discussing HYP candidates.

OP is welcome to message the mods if they’d like to post an update if they come off a waitlist later.

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