Chance me please; Low GPA Asian in NJ striving for T20 [3.7 GPA (top 10%), 1550 SAT]

Yes, frats cost money. I assume the amount depends on the school.

I think I said this earlier- Rutgers will not be a walk in the park.

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Also, I have a 3.70 GPA and schools do look at rigor, honors, etc. But, I will look into Elon. Speaking of NC Schools, does Duke or UNC offer any sort of full ride?

What do you mean?

There are many, many students out there with all As while taking the most rigorous courses offered.

These kids will be at Rutgers (answering your question).

UNC and Duke have full rides, but these are highly competitive (as is admission). I do not think you meet the income criteria for the Carolina Covenant (full ride).

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This is true, which is why I would be happy with Rutgers as a fallback option, but then again I would be living at my house. Also, I have Skidmore and Colgate on my list but the bad thing is they consider primary home equity which may get in the way of me getting a full ride there

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Yes, you need to inquire about home equity.

Both do - Morehead Cain and Robertson.

When I took your schedule above and took out PE, Health etc it was 3.65.

Either way I appreciate your focus on the high end but find those where you stick out, not where your GPA is below the averages.

Many of these scholarships have a lot of work or require nominations. So find those with less required so you can do more. W&M has a full ride too.

What did you find out about your home and QB?

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I have inquired about home equity at 52 schools, I posted a list at 290

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Then sub them out for two that don’t.

Btw - Skidmore - no Greek life.

Schools are different. Like I said b4 research all 55 QBs. Now add Greek life as a filter if important. Not everyone has. But know Greek life may be $$. Thousands.

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They gave me this generic, presumably scripted response;

“we are not able to truly determine financial eligibility, as there are a number of factors we take into consideration when making this determination. QuestBridge awards are intended for students who come from families experiencing long-term financial difficulties. As such, most of the students who are selected to receive these awards come from households earning less than $65,000 per year for a household of four with minimal assets. However, there are no absolute cut-offs. If a student comes from a household earning more than this amount but feels that they have faced economic hardship and fits the QuestBridge criteria of exceptionally talented high school seniors who come from low-income backgrounds, we would encourage them to apply. There is room on the application to explain the family’s situation.
If you have no contact with your non-custodial parent, you will be able to indicate as such on the Household page, and then you subsequently will not be asked to provide non-custodial parent income information.”

Greek life isn’t an end all be all for me, just think it would be a great thing to have as an opportunity to meet women in a fun setting. If they’re asking to pay thousands of dollars, I’ll pass of course out of necessity

It looks like the University of Kentucky has a full tuition award + a housing stipend for OOS students. Not sure if you researched this.

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You don’t have minimal household assets in my mind. You have more than double the net worth of the average family. All that said - I’m not the one to guide here. I like you can do 15 at once easily. But of course if you’re eliminated based on assets, it’s no good.

You’ll have to decide. Perhaps others can give you guidance.

Otherwise it’s individual apps - and find the schools like Elon, SMU, Providence and more that have full rides.

Providence is for pre- med.

Applicants considered for this one scholarship, which covers up to tuition, fees, housing and food costs, must aspire to a career in the medical profession with plans of attending medical, dental, or optometry graduate school. Consideration is based on outstanding academic achievement in high school. No separate application is required to be considered for this award. The Roddy Scholarship is only awarded to first-year students who reside in the United States.

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Most of the premed students who I have met (particularly the ones who were successful and ended up as an MD or DO or similar) spent a LOT of time studying, some time volunteering in a medical environment, some time sleeping, and not much time doing anything else. Some of them did however have a boyfriend or girlfriend.

Do not underestimate how challenging this path will be at pretty nearly any “top 200” university in the US.

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Gives details then sums it up:

So, How Much Does a Sorority or Fraternity Cost?

For new members, costs can range from $1,000 to $4,200.

For members living outside of group housing, costs can range from $1,800 to $3,500.

For members living in the sorority or fraternity house, costs can range from $3,100 to $12,600.

You have to pay at all schools, sometimes thousands.

I have a family full of doctors. Yes, they all studied hard, they spent time doing clinical hours, volunteering and doing research. No, it’s not easy .. but even pre meds are allowed to have a social life. My husband was in a fraternity at Emory full of other pre med students, at least 10 of the guys from his pledge class went on to medical school. They studied together during the week and let loose on Friday and Saturday nights. My son is not pre med, but in a fraternity at William and Mary. His fraternity has one of the highest GPAs on campus - well above the average GPA at the university as a whole. Same type of deal, they study really hard during the week and have some fun on the weekends.His brothers who just graduated are continuing on to med school, law school and top PhD programs. All Greek life is not the same - it very much depends on the overall culture of the school and oftentimes on the individual chapters. It’s very easy to paint all of Greek life with one brush. We’ve all heard the horror stories but it’s not the same everywhere.

Yes, Fraternities cost money. At my son’s school there are scholarships available through the IFC for lower income students. Dues run $600 a semester for my son’s chapter. The fraternity houses are owned by the university and are considered to be university housing so cost the same as the dorms. Again, this all varies significantly by school. Just pointing out that there are huge differences from one college to another.

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OP - if you decide against QB and apply to meets need schools, you might look at the Common Data Set section H2 line A and E. A says Colgate last year had 825 first years. Line E says 257 got need aid. As they don’t have merit, we can surmise 69% pay full. In other words, it’s a rich kids school for lack of a better word. The average grant was $62.4k - vs $92k direct costs.

If you get in you will go tuition free:

Full Tuition Support

Students with an annual family income of $80,000 or less will attend Colgate tuition-free.

But if you read the article above about Lafayette (who was candid), it shows they may, as need aware, may avoid kids who need too much.

I don’t know how many QB they do but you can go school by school to see who gives to more kids - schools like Tufts, Colgate and Wake don’t - and how much are they giving ?

With need aware schools, that may help you target who to apply to.

In other words, fixate less on name - all the meets needs are great - and more on where your time is best spent.

As for Greek life, costs will be dependent on campus and organization itself. The SEC schools, as an example, can be over the top. My daughter’s dues were less than $1k a year but her sorority had little infrastructure.

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You sure do! And at some places, it can be a lot of money. Plus there are costs associated with Greek membership
formal dances, and other events.

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Both are reaches for you in terms of acceptance. UNC caps OOS acceptances. Getting accepted at these two colleges will be your first hurdle.

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Hamilton College says that the average FA award for families earning between $50,000-$100,000 is just under $70,000. Full COA is about $87,000.

Colgate offers full tuition for those making under $80,000, as noted above.

OP can you pay R/B if it is not included in your FA package?