Chance me: TX resident, 4.0 UW GPA, SAT 1570, 11th grade transfer to program [taking UNT college courses] [full pay; business or biology]

So you have no budget and $90k to $100k by the time you finish is ok ?

Then fine.

If you do business Brown makes less sense - and per what I wrote from what they say, ED doesn’t give you a huge advantage, if one at all.

Are you seeking to play music in college too ? If so have you reviewed all to ensure it’s possible ?

Check out IU - it takes all the admission stress off you if seeking a business major and you can eliminate Tech and North Texas.

Good luck

My main reasoning for Brown is because I am still a bit undecided, meaning its open curriculum is beneficial.

I will check out IU for sure - Bloomington is an amazing program. Thank you!

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Then Rochester would be a highly likely and open curriculum wise and likely in budget with merit. It’s also a top school. A good safety valve if needed.

You can go so many ways. They have b major if you go that way and is solid too.

Just so many great options for you.

If you are interested in areas of business such entrepreneurship or not sure what you want to study Brown is a wonderful choice.

My son is a recent graduate who concentrated in applied math and entrepreneurship. Upon graduation he had career opportunities with investment banks, management consulting and VCs.

He choose to pursue a start up that he cofounded while at Brown and the Brown alumni network has offered great access, support and investment.

Happy to offer any first hand experience and or insights regarding Brown if you have questions. Brown tends to be misunderstood amongst those without direct experience.

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There is likely to be a rather wide range of “total cost of attendance” across the various schools on your list. Assuming that you get accepted to UT Austin (which is an excellent university) then it is likely to be way under this limit since you are in-state. Some of the private schools on your list could in contrast cost well over $90,000 per year. The most expensive schools in the US for this coming year cost about $95,000, there are many universities that are not very far behind this number, and costs tend to go up by something like 4% or 5% per year. You could graduate from one of the Texas schools for a total cost probably way under $200,000 for four year, or from a private school with a cost probably slightly over $400,000 for four years.

Is medical school one option that you are considering? is an MBA another possibility? You might want to leave some $$ in the bank for either of these paths (or for some other master’s degree).

Your accomplishments to this point are very impressive, and you are a competitive applicant at any university in the US (and probably any university outside the US that teaches in a language that you speak). That being said, I would expect Georgia Tech to be a reach, and U.Washington and U.Florida to be perhaps low reaches. I do not know why either would be preferred to UT Austin, but I am not particularly knowledgeable about business majors.

I think that you have a good chance to get admitted to several of your reaches. Again however I have a very high opinion of UT Austin and if you are accepted (which I hope is very likely) then you could save a bundle of money and get a great education there, possibly making it easier to fund whatever graduate program comes next.

There is one more thing that I would like to add: If considering a possible biology major, you will have at least some classes that overlap with premed classes. These will be very demanding classes that are full of exceptional students. You superb results up to this point will help you to be prepared to do well in these very tough classes. Assuming that you go into these classes expecting them to be tough, I think that because you are such a strong student, you might find them to be both a lot of work, and a lot of fun at the same time. Mostly my point is that your hard work and exceptional results up to this point are likely to help you significantly regardless of which very good university you end up attending.

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The subject title has been changed to state that parents will pay <$70,000 a year.

@JosanSah could you please please clarify what your parents CAN and WILL pay annually for your college costs?

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Based on this post from the OP:

On post 18 OP corrected that statement - and said all work for his family.

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If your music is as high level as I suspect, make sure to put together a very high level supplement and possibly reach out to the music department. Definitely will be a boost.

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@JosanSah so now the title has been changed…again…and says full pay.

Did YOU make these changes or ask someone else to? As noted above here, you indicated your parents could pay the full cost of attendance…anywhere.

Please please clarify!

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My parents will be able to pay full cost - the change to the title was made by someone else, which I was unaware of until now. I apologize for any inconveniences.

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What do you mean by supplement? Asking my violin professor for a LOR?

I am pretty sure the other poster is referring to submitting a music supplement showcasing your talent. For example, here are links to the supplement guidelines for a couple of your reach schools:

Admissions | Department of Music.

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The supplement for each school varies but will be generally be 2 contrasting pieces. If you can make a very high quality video with an acompanist. This is similar to the applications to the hihg level summer music programs. In the supplement will be a place for a music resume and a letter from your music teacher. Brown is one of the schools that loves musicians so if you decide to ED there look at their supplement application closely and if you have time to visit reach out to the department and try to have a lesson or meeting with one of the violin professors. Michigan is a little more complex sine they have a BM music program and although there are opportunities for people who are not part of the music school it is less of a draw.

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@parentologist @compmom

Can you please explain the music supplement for this student.

@JosanSah the music supplement should include a video/recording, music resume, and 1-2 letters of recommendation related to music (which can discuss qualities beyond talent, such as work ethic, working with others, wide interests etc.) The Brown link above might be helpful.

I would not stress too much about the video/recording. My kid actually asked Harvard if they wanted them to cue the best part of the recording to make it easier, and they said yes, three minutes. It is not like conservatory or summer program in that the resume and letters are quite important, I think. I am still not sure whether music faculty listened to my kid’s submission or admissions went by the resume. We did not contact faculty before admission but others seem to. After admission to schools, they attended classes for one day and met some faculty.

A music supplement needs to be justified in terms of talent and/or accomplishments. It can definitely help with admission.

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A music supplement for an application to a school that would not require an audition will consist of 3 min of your best playing. It can be several clips or excerpts. If the excerpt is usually accompanied, it should be accompanied. If can be an unaccompanied solo, if that is what the piece is. The idea is to showcase your best playing. Schools which do not have a school of music but which do have an orchestra may give the supplement to their orchestra conductor for an opinion.

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I’m just chiming in to observe there is a bit of an oddity to your list in my mind, namely that your Reach list contains a lot of mid-size private universities (Brown, Columbia, Penn, and Duke), but then the rest of your list is all large publics.

That’s OK if it is intentional, but among the kids I know at our feederish HS who are looking at those sorts of Reach privates, they also look at a variety of less-reachy but otherwise similar universities, including sometimes some that offer merit.

For example, as another poster mentioned, given your profile and interests, a kid like you from our HS would be very likely to apply to Rochester. Great all around university, very flexible curriculum structure, lots of music options for all sorts of levels of commitment, and a very robust merit program.

Case Western would be another sort of option like that.

A similar but somewhat different approach would be to look at William & Mary. They are functionally extremely similar to a mid-size private, but because they are a public, even full pay OOS they cost significantly less than a market-rate private full pay. They also have a cool sort of Honors program, the Monroe Scholarship, which comes with a modest amount of additional funding for summer research/internship.

Of course if you are fine with the big publics on your list, OK. I just think sometimes some kids are not aware of these alternatives to the reachiest colleges with nonetheless similar formats.

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I did above your comment and this is the most up to date info since S24 just did it and was accepted with the music supplement as a boost. Each school is slightly different and making a spread sheet to know which school wants what is vital.

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@parentologist says 3 minutes and the Brown link by @helping the kid73 days maximum 15 minutes. The Harvard supplement I mentioned did not mention a required duration for the recording- my kid just asked. So yes, variation from school to school.

I wanted to get across that a supplement for a BA is not all about the playing, the way an audition would be, and that it does not have to be an additional source of stress!