"Chinese aim for the Ivy League" (International Herald Tribune)

<p>I’m not Asian and my parents are a little like the stereotyped Asians. They hardly appreciate any of my success and expect more.But I have eavesdropped on them once and heard how they were so proud of me and w.e . But lol ever since freshman year whenever I play video games my mom starts screaming about how I’ll never make it to college. She keeps on saying how even Rutgers wont accept me (I ve gotten into better ones than that). But I guess now she realizes her mistake in not letting me have any fun and restricting my social life.</p>

<p>Go the University of Chicago website and search under Nobel Prize. There are three Chinese born Nobel Prize Laureates in Physic. I am sure there are more out there but I happened to know there are three winners who happened to by Chinese. However, I am not certain if they are from China or born here.</p>

<p>ok that’s a nice article and everything but i’m chinese and that DOES NOT reflect every chinese family in china or the america.</p>

<p>im third generation chinese and my parents don’t push me for harvard or that stuff. maybe i’m “white-washed” but i think pushing ur kid that hard just to go to and ivy league’s stupid.</p>

<p>@dain3265</p>

<p>Everybody is trying to get in my high school, either get in as a freshman or transfer. You have to work even harder if you live far from our school. And if you walk in a police department near schools, there will be “Don’t hit your child” signs. I think it is quite interesting.</p>

<p>@making<em>a</em>point</p>

<p>sorry to tell you. But all three of those people have American Citizenship and were educated in the U.S. And one of them is not even considered to be “Chinese” because he wrote a book against the communist.</p>

<p>@yawn</p>

<p>Haha… my dad don’t do it on bare skin tho… So I’m lucky :slight_smile: lol</p>

<p>Don’t Japanese schools choose what their students will focus on for them?</p>

<p>or even go as far as choosing what schools they can apply to?</p>

<p>I read that in Japan college is more elite (harder to get into) and optional . . . whereas high school is set up so kids can more easily start a right job afterwards.</p>

<p>ociosskmi, I don’t think so. Of the countries I know, North Korea does that because it’s communist </p>

<p>and smalllab, there are thousands if not millions of Chinese who unfortunately cannot afford school, you and people trying to get into elite school are by any means “common” </p>

<p>smalllab - “sorry to tell you. But all three of those people have American Citizenship and were educated in the U.S. And one of them is not even considered to be “Chinese” because he wrote a book against the communist.” </p>

<p>Just because he wrote a book against the communist, he is not considered Chinese? That is just ridiculous</p>

<p>Hitting children or yelling at them is counterproductive no matter what culture. The most effective parents simply take an interest in their children and encourage them. They give them a sense of security so they can relax their minds and focus on studying.</p>

<p>I was inspired to visit the campus library at lunchtime and found a book titled Handbook of Cross-cultural Psychology. Asian cultures value membership in a group (collectivist) whereas America values individuality. The book mentions the concept of “collectivist self-actualization” in China, which is embodied in serving one’s community and nation. “A socially-oriented achievement motivation would exalt both the self and a collectivity (usually the family) encompassing the self. It is not, as is often assumed, debasing the self or sacrificing self-interest for the group, but rather merging the self with the group…, so that achievement elevates both.” I think this means that Chinese kids try to excel in school both for themselves and to make their family proud.</p>

<p>you not only have to just go to an ivy league, but if you’re not a doctor, lawyer, surgeon, successful businessman, something respected, etc., they’ll look down on you too.</p>

<p>@ dain3265</p>

<p>First, you can see yawn’s post after me… maybe you will understand what common means</p>

<p>Second, I think you should do some research on political views of the Chinese.
I would give you an example to help you understand:
putting up a sign saying “Communists suck” in the Tian An Men Square= suicide, you may be shot down by the police immediately or throw into jail forever. No matter you’re just kidding or not.</p>

<p>Sorry if I made you angry… just trying to explain things here =]</p>

<p>@ collegehelp</p>

<p>you’re right! Proud is a big thing. I guess this is also a reason why parents care so much about grades in China.</p>

<p>I read yawn’s post. So two people on CC said same thing, so? Does being on CC means you represent common Chinese family? I don’t think so. </p>

<p>Also, did he publish book on communist in china? Even if he did, why is he not considered Chinese? So people disagree with their country’s political views. That is how country progresses.</p>

<p>also sure, China is communist, but isn’t it becoming more and more capitalist?</p>

<p>@ dain3265</p>

<p>Communism is the only political view accepted in China(now). Also, in a lot of Chinese families(like my grandma’s), they still consider Zedong Mao as a god. lol</p>

<p>hehe…i heard on the radio today that Chinese courts have a 98% conviction rate…that’s frightening :P</p>

<p>For most mainland Chinese, criticizing the CCP is equivalent to criticizing the Chinese people themselves. Criticizing the one source of “stability” in China (the CCP) is seen as wanting China to fail.</p>

<p>OMG yawn</p>

<p>you read my mind! lol</p>

<p>smalllab, I second dain3265. NOT ALL Chinese are communist. Communists are only a small percentage of the Chinese population, who run the country. The person you mentioned who wrote a book against Communist is always gonna be Chinese for his/her whole life. And also about the Nobel Prize part, Lao She would have won the Nobel Prize in Literature, if he didn’t commit suicide in 1966. Moreover, Nobel Prize doesn’t mean everything and it is based on the achievements that were attained 10-40 years before laureled the honor.</p>

<p>You come from an elite high school in Beiijing? I went to one of the top high schools in Beijing, too. Why haven’t I seen any extreme cases like hitting kids after parent meetings?</p>

<p>Lack of confidence? I don’t think so. Many of my peers are the opposite. They’re over confident and conceited, some people may say.</p>

<p>Political and media censorship? The censorship in China has been loosened for many years. Haven’t you seen the Chinese forums already? What are people talking about? However, the Chinese government doesn’t put any restraints or punish any of those people. That’s why you can post you ideas freely here.</p>