Class of 29 Undergrad/Class of 27 Grad: All Things Related to Music School Applications (prescreens/tours/interviews/auditions/supplements/etc)

Our DD submitted her Bienan supplement at 12am last night. There was a lot of crying and yelling involved. At one point we had decided it was not worth it but she persevered and submitted it. Not expecting much but if she gets an audition, that’s great. This is her only other music school. She applied to blair and didn’t get past prescreening.

She does have a couple of pre-med acceptances though, so we are not too stressed. This whole idea of applying to music schools came from the left field for us, since she just picked up her instrument in 9th grade . All through high school she was sure that pre-med was her path forward.

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There are many Bienen kids on pre-med track. If she goes there she’ll for sure find like-minded friends. Good luck.

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D25 finally got her two piano prescreen songs recorded last week. She is applying to a commercial/popular music program, so one song is modern rock (the other she had to learn a jazz “standard” quickly). The school asks to provide the prescreen videos via links to youtube, so we uploaded them last Thursday. Well, youtube blocked the rock song immediately for copyright (not from the original artist, but a sheet music company, which is kinda funny because she learned/plays the song by ear). I disputed it as “fair use” under the educational exemption and explaining the situation, and the company thankfully released the block today (was worried, because youtube gives them up to 30 days to respond). Prescreen application completed and sent to that music school today.

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As if things weren’t stressful enough - what an ordeal!! Glad you got it resolved quickly!! Curious, did the block happen even though the video was unlisted? Or was it a public link?

Not the original poster, but YT will block things even for unlisted links. I uploaded a short video clip of our dd performing in a musical to share with family (it was under 2 mins) and it was blocked. I had to edit it down to under 60 secs in order for it to not be deactivated.

Yep, blocked even if “unlisted”. I didn’t try “private”, because I think only people who you specify by email/account can see those and I didn’t know who to specify.

DS submitted prescreens to 3 schools Sunday night about 3 hours before the deadline. So stressful. Another went in last night, and he has one more to submit today. Turns out we had multiple snafus with teacher recommendations, so he’s been scrambling to get all of those in. Hopefully the schools will be ok with those being a few days late. After looking through last year’s thread, it looks like we might start hearing back about prescreens in a couple of weeks. I’ll be glad to know, but part of me wishes it weren’t so soon so I could take a longer break from all the worrying.

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The music application/audition process can be so stressful for kids and parents. Although mine is now applying for grad schools and I am largely out of the loop, I remember where we were 4 years ago.

A few thoughts that might help:

Moderate the highs and the lows. We felt it was less stressful to stay low key about prescreens passed (a quiet “yay!”) or inadequate merit money offered (“oh well, bummer”) This kept the emotional exhaustion at bay.

Take your kid’s lead. They are more in control of the outcome than we are as parents. They are the ones putting themselves and their music out there. And you will be surprised at how well they handle the stress. And how much they grow over the next 5-6 months.

Encourage activities to alleviate stress. My kid chooses to run or work out to calm himself. And he really benefited from just hanging out with friends, especially ones who were not on the same music audition gauntlet.

Let go of the things you can’t control. There is much about this process that is uncertain.

And most importantly, know that our kids are amazing. They will get to where they are meant to be.

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Do I belong in this thread? Possible transfer we hadn’t been anticipating…

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I’m not the OP, but in my opinion , absolutely. Sorry to hear your musician may be needing to transfer. Sounds stressful.

Very much so. Wasn’t the plan. Might stay put depending upon how things develop but needs to keep options open.

Since it wasn’t the plan, there’s a lot of scrambling to suddenly get in applications and all the rep that’s been worked on in the last nine months or so is not audition rep…

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I wish that I could say the stress goes away and it does get better BUT…2 years ago when my “kid” was 30, she was waiting on the results of an important audition…of course at Xmas time. She was getting crickets and I remember saying to my H “I’m afraid it’s going to be an unmerry Christmas”. She was flying out to meet us at ski resort…and frankly I was dreading her being angry…and having to do the ole “I believe in you” but I’m getting a little too old and tired for this. We were skiing when my H answered his phone to her yelling “I got Into the Woods”. He thought she had driven off the road…but I knew that was the show she was waiting on. Whew…we did have a Merry Christmas that year. So yea…it never goes away…

Hang in there all. Somehow it all works out.

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Hi. My daughter (vocal, classical) received a letter from a school of music stating that she got admission there, but it is contingent upon admission to the main university. Her application was Early Action. I am happy, but also surprised and confused that they sent these letters before the university weighed in! Does anyone know whether this means the chances are very high that she will get admitted to the university as well? She definitely meets all minimum requirements for admission to the university. I mean, my thought is: why would the school of music send out notifications separately, unless they are sure the student will get into the university as well?

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Anyone else headed to Frost this weekend for auditions? I am a nervous wreck. My son is not. Lol. This is the big one for us. It’s my son’s top school, it’s the lowest acceptance rate of all of our schools and it’s by far the most expensive. Trying not to put pressure on him about practicing but at the same time, he needs to practice as much as possible! Ugh.

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Yes headed to Frost too. Also first high stakes audition :grimacing:. Good luck to your son!

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Good luck to yours too!!

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My D has heard from the music department director and the main instrument professor both saying they want her in their program but nothing official from the school yet so I think it’s just an administrative waiting game. She’s also been admitted academically to another school but hasn’t auditioned yet so that’s another waiting stressor. None of the schools are academic reaches or selectivity reaches so I’m sure she’ll get in to all. Good luck with your child’s musical journey!

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@SG1071 - Congratulations to your D! That is good news. You should celebrate the music school acceptance. STILL, you should wait for the final hurdle…the academic acceptance. Schools will do these acceptances in a variety of ways…and it’s best not to try to read the tea leaves (even though you will!). I do think that it is very positive news for her…but…just…wait…for the final celebration.

General rule: no matter what is said in an audition room, or sent to you from a teacher, from a school non-officially…it’s never over until the all written acceptances are received. Good news is good news and usually bodes very well for you. STILL, in rare cases, people celebrate too early and get a BIG disappointment (again rare) still it’s best to wait for the written acceptance…just in case…

@Drummermom2 - Frost should be very exciting. He has probably practiced enough. The number one school can move around over the next few months! So while it is important and number one…it’s OK if he isn’t practicing like a fiend…rest is good too. Enjoy!

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It doesn’t end, with our S , with that more than a decade in the past, we realize it never really ends, though it changes. I remember the stress of the audition process, then the process of our son figuring out where he should go with the acceptances he got (it was also stressful because he didn’t apply many places, all high level, ended up getting in at all but 1 of the 5 or 6). There was drama, the teacher he wanted to study with at one school didn’t have slots there, and the admissions department screwed up and by the time they pinged his second choice teacher, their studio was full, and he would have had to try and meet with other teachers and see if any of them were a fit…the good news was the teacher he wanted taught primarily at another school and he was able to study with him there. He would have preferred studying with him at the first school, which he knew well, but in the end to be honest (and I think my S would agree), going to study with his first choice at the other school was the right thing. I think the second choice teacher at the first school wouldn’t have helped him, for a lot of reasons. But it was agonizing, then he had the choice of a totally free school (colburn) vs basically paying full freight. We had the money (Barely, but we had it), but he felt conflicted, but he felt colburn was too small and the teacher was new to teaching, and that wouldn’t have worked well (he still believes that).

Then the agony with grad school, which was really all his , more than even UG, we were just the shoulder to cry on and the like. The school he chose turned out, despite my wife and my reservations (and his initially), turned out to be a gold mine. He loved the school, he bonded with the orchestra conductor who did him a huge turn in terms of his confidence (my son was concertmaster at least one of their cycles each year he was there), his teacher turned out, despite his reputation as being difficult to deal with, a true teacher and mentor, and his group that is becoming more and more successful, moving into the high level of chamber music, was formed there and they had incredible mentors there ,as well, for chamber music.

Then of course there is the agony of what about after graduation? With his group, they started hitting gold when still at the school, they won some big competitions, and then because of that were accepted into a prestigious post grad string quartet program for young professionals…then there is trying to establish yourself, get artists rep, each step has its own anxiety (and yes, as a parent, it is still there, though it evolves at each step too).

As a parent, what I kind of have found works is to kind of use the meaning of the famous Robert Frost poem, 'The Road Less Travelled". Most people misinterpret its message, that rather than encouraging people to take the road less travelled, it is really about human nature, that we look back at the path we chose and tell ourselves we chose the road less travelled (whether we did or not) and it was the right one:). In music, I think what that translates to for me is there is no perfect path that they might be missing, that the things missed in the end likely will amount to far less then the things they do end up doing and we have to trust in the kid that got this far with music, wherever they are, that in the end they will find what they need, whether it is in music or not. That doesn’t mean there aren’t missteps, of course there are, kids find a teacher doesn’t work for them, a school doesn’t fit them, it happens, but few are fatal mistakes unless the kid doesn’t do anything about it. Sometimes what you think was a mis step might not be; my son’s high school music teacher did damage to him, their teaching was good, but they also undermined his confidence in himself, made him feel like he was way behind other students, and it took probably until grad school for him to realize (despite what a kind of violin guru told him in high school), that there was nothing wrong with his playing. We thought of replacing her at the time, maybe we should have, but she also has been a champion of his group, hired them a festival she now runs, and has sent other things their way, which wouldn’t have happened had we made the possibly “right” move.

Doesn’t mean we still don’t get anxiety, and our S certainly does, they are at another crossroads at the moment with their future involving possible movement to another artists management group and a possible future professional residency that will take them one step closer into the higher ranks of music. Still, you have to kind of take the idea that they are good enough and bright enough to find their way, whatever the path is, and try to take comfort from that:)

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Where one of my kids attended, there are students who would get one admission and not the other every year. The music admissions person would emphasize emphatically every time he did an music info session they had zero pull in regular admissions. It was a public university so admissions for out of state students in particular there has gotten harder to predict. They didn’t have room for every student in range and they are fulfilling a bunch of other institutional priorities too.

So congrats on the music admission! Hopefully your other admission will come through soon. This is the process for some schools.

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