<p>CNN declares that Clinton wins PA. My guess is that based that democactic party assign more weightage to democartcly bent philadephia than rest of PA. Thus anyone winning Philly gets more number of delegates even if popular vote is other way round. Thus, Barack would win number of delegeates from PA. Same thing happened in Texas that clinton won popular vote, but Barack won the number of delegates.This system is not fair for clinton. However, these are the rules so she will get shaf*** again. I am not thrilled with the mess created by democrat system that popular vote elects one winner and somebody else gets more delegates from same state. I think at this point clinton need to concede as this is going to be same problems in other state primaries. But in future, democract needs to give equal represntation to voters in other parts of the state after this primary season is over. They should not chnage the rule in the middleof the game. They also shouldnot defrachise the Florida and Michigan voters. They probaly should elect Barcak Presidential candidate and Clinton VP candidate. If not, the democart could be in real trouble.</p>
<p>damn, get some spell check on that paragraph.</p>
<p>the opinion was unwieldy in its delivery, but otherwise is valid.</p>
<p>I should have done spell check.</p>
<p>It’s over. She didn’t win by 20+. The press just needs something to talk about. She will likely win about as many delegates as she lost lasts week.</p>
<p>Al Gore would agree with you…</p>
<p>Al gore new what was electroal college. I knew it while I was in china and came to this country. But I did not know till this year that for democrat primary one can win popular vote yet still loose number of delegates.</p>
<p>Well, you have the opposite case, as in Texas, where 118,000 Republicans crossed over to vote for Clinton in order to deny Obama a clear victory. </p>
<p>It’s just politics. And it’s over, except the tv people need something to fill the time.</p>
<p>hmmmmm I have voted all my life democrat, but even Iam not happy with this fight.</p>
<p>I agree with Mini.</p>
<p>Obama is going to be the nominee.</p>
<p>The people who work in the media need something to talk about, but it is over.</p>
<p>One of the differences between this Primary and the Texas Primary is that this one was a closed Primary. Independents and Republicans were not allowed to weigh in, so no one knows how swing voters and traditionally Republican voters would have affected this outcome. I do believe this long anticipated victory will inject a small amount of hope and vigor into the Clinton campaign, but whether or not that will translate into increased campaign contributions remains to be seen. Her campaign is broke by all accounts, while Obama’s is still flush with cash. In fact, the Clinton campaign is in considerable debt. How long can she realistically hang on without money? Can she last all the way to the Convention?</p>
<p>IMO, the Obama campaign strategy in PA was brilliant. He campaigned and advertised like crazy, forcing her to counter with money and resources she didn’t have, he closed the gap, she did not get he the blow-out she needed. He’s still leading in delegates and has lots of cash to move forward. HRC is tapped out on donors and more than 2 mil in the hole. Financially, how can she move on? Who will extend her campaign credit day after day?</p>
<p>However, here’s my paranoid side, I do not put anything past the ClintonS, (yes, Barack is running against 2 of them) to get the nomination, and I mean nothing. I wish I was as confident as mini and dstark about Obama being the nominee.</p>
<p>Mama 4 Obama!</p>
<p>P.S. Poetsheart, are you a mind reader? ;)</p>
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We got a taste of their opinions (there were more than a few who “temporarily” changed party affiliation so they could vote in the primary… many of those “switchers” are more conservative than liberal, and many of them voted Hillary).</p>
<p>“Well, you have the opposite case, as in Texas, where 118,000 Republicans crossed over”</p>
<p>make it at 117,988. Dozen republicans I know, voted for Obama.</p>
<p>Currently, delegate weighing is favoring obama. So Obama supporter are happy. However if super delegates choose Obama as VP nominee and Hillary as President basedon electibilty,it will be still playing by rules. Then people should not cry about it that democract changed the rule in themiddle, If getting more delegeates is okay despite loosing popular vote whatever itmay be. After spending ger 3 to 1, he was supposed to do better. I would be equally happy with this sitaution too as democrcat need both on the tickets. Rulesof the game still apply. </p>
<p>I still think for democrat it is better to elect barack president candidate , and hillary as VP candidate. However, if clinton or obama both are not on ticket, I may have to think about my vote.</p>
<p>the odds are that clinton and obama won’t share a ticket–they’ve gotten steadily more vicious as the process has dragged on, and show no signs of letting up. </p>
<p>then again, politics is politics.</p>
<p>In past Regan and Bush can work, then these two potheads needs to forget their egos and take other candiadte if they want to win</p>
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<p>Republicans who voted in Texas voted for Obama 53-46. Everybody thinks that because Rush told them to vote for Clinton that they did, when in fact if anybody looks at the results (which would entail some googling, too much work for some on this board) it’s clear that Obama benefited from the open primary.</p>
<p>Save you the time: [The</a> Republican Cross-Over Vote: Not a Factor - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime](<a href=“The Politics Of Crime - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime”>The Republican Cross-Over Vote: Not a Factor - TalkLeft: The Politics Of Crime)</p>
<p>It looks like Hillary won 66, and Barack won 57 delegates. Considering the financial costs, a pyrrhic victory for Hillary. Considering the costs to the party, it also may be a pyrrhic victory for them. I wish primaries were over for the Democrats.</p>
<p>Honestly, I don’t think it really matters who the Democratic nominee will be this time around-I don’t see victory for Hillary or Obama (this is America, after all…). I’m thinking… McCain '08, more than likely.</p>
<p>Primaries won’t be over unless Obama wins by 15+ in NC, and even then I’d say it’s 50/50. Neither clinton nor obama can win w/o superdelegates and since they can both still “win” with the remaining SD’s neither one is going to drop out.</p>