Clinton's Sniper Fire

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<p>Zoosermom: Because Bill could get away with stuff like that. ;)</p>

<p>Seriously, I think that when she said it, it was true in her mind. This isn’t as unusual as you might think. In fact, I suggest that it is the rule rather than the exception tha people’s memories of events in which they were involved grow over time, getting more dramatic, more theatrical with each passing month. From “reports of snipers in the hills around the airport” to “ducking and running to our cars” isn’t that big of a trip. If she wasn’t a prominent politician no one would have noticed or commented.</p>

<p>It’s just human nature. But in todays world a politician can’t afford to be “merely human.”</p>

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<p>“I’d prefer your side yell, “Liar, liar, pantsuits on fire!!””</p>

<p>Good one.</p>

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<p>"It’s just human nature. But in todays world a politician can’t afford to be “merely human.”</p>

<p>I still think she’s a lying sack of . Doesn’t she have people to vet these things for her? If it wasn’t calculated, someone would have caught it. Plus I hate her and will never, ever give her the benefit of the doubt. Did I say never? Yep. Never.</p>

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<p>…and yet you say she’s a good senator for your state? I guess we demand different things from people for different roles in life…</p>

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<p>Yeah, I don’t think it was an accident at all. I think it was calculated on her part to blunt some of the comments that just by being married to the president doesn’t make you qualified to be president. She wanted to make her foreign duties more than they were and got caught. Now, why she would take that risk when papers and news channels have footage of this stuff just shows her hubris.</p>

<p>But I did believe her tears in N.H.!!!</p>

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<p>“…and yet you say she’s a good senator for your state? I guess we demand different things from people for different roles in life…”</p>

<p>Exactly. I also don’t say “good.” At least not without context. The context is that (a) I’ll never get a republican senator, (b) she IS hardworking, (c) she does have excellent constituent service, and (d) she is a winner in comparison with the senior senator, whose position and nepotism enabled his wife to be a mass murderer with impunity.</p>

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<p>“But I did believe her tears in N.H.!!!”</p>

<p>I didn’t go for those either and got slammed. But who turned out to be right?</p>

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<p>I don’t know. How will we ever know who was right? Or do we know and I missed it?</p>

<p>As a woman who has had the misfortune to cry in the workplace, I know that I would NEVER EVER choose to do so.</p>

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<p>When I was in Ireland/Northern Ireland last week, on a multi-day car trip through the countryside staying at B&B’s, I asked people (after they broached the topic of the November elections) what they thought of Hillary and her involvement in the peace process over there.</p>

<p>Each response began with, “Oh yea, she was here; she came with Bill several times.” But when I asked how they specifically saw her as being involved in the process, they could not come up with anything. One B&B owner, after saying she’d traveled there several times but then couldn’t recall anything she did, added, “She went shopping down in town; there’s a picture of her shopping in one of the craft stores.” That’s what they remember.</p>

<p>When I toured the Dublin Castle, the tour guide did take us through one of the rooms that was used during the peace talks, and did say Hillary had been there, but again, did not have anything to add, other than she was there to show unity with Bill on the negotiations. The tour guide also did say that when the two of them went into Northern Ireland, it was very risky, as it was not a stable place yet. But she didn’t say anything about them coming under sniper fire.</p>

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<p>I agree, Youdon’tsay. I too, think she was trying to embellish her travel record to suggest that she was frequently sent on “dangerous” diplomatic missions that ultimately “tipped the scale” in some important way.</p>

<p>I’ve also been doing a bit of reading about all the bodies, stacked up like cord wood (a disturbing number, actually—all died of “tragic” or questionable causes) surrounding the Clinton Administration. If even a third of these rumors have merit, Bill and Hillary have reason to believe that they can do things and not be fingered for them.</p>

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<p>That comes to 41,667 words per hour for 24 hours.</p>

<p>I think she “misspoke” again!</p>

<p>Anyway that seems more like a “misstatement” than telling some elaborate story.<br>
She’s told so many lies that her sense of what she can say and get away with is distorted.<br>
I vote “No Confidence”.</p>

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<p>“Each response began with, “Oh yea, she was here; she came with Bill several times.” But when I asked how they specifically saw her as being involved in the process, they could not come up with anything. One B&B owner, after saying she’d traveled there several times but then couldn’t recall anything she did, added, “She went shopping down in town; there’s a picture of her shopping in one of the craft stores.” That’s what they remember.”</p>

<p>May be you were talking to wrong, ignorant people</p>

<p>Senator George Mitchell said that “She was very much involved in encouraging the emergence of women in the political process in Northern Ireland, which was a significant factor in ultimately getting an agreement.”</p>

<p>Statement from John Hume former MP MEP, founder of the SDLP and an architect of the Good Friday Agreement. He is the only person to win the Nobel Prize for Peace, the Ghandi Peace Award and the Martin Luther King Peace Prize.</p>

<p>“I am quite surprised that anyone would suggest that Hillary Clinton did not perform important foreign policy work as First Lady. I can state from firsthand experience that she played a positive role for over a decade in helping to bring peace to Northern Ireland.</p>

<p>She visited Northern Ireland, met with very many people and gave very decisive support to the peace process. There is no doubt that the people of Northern Ireland think very positively of Hillary Clinton’s support for our peace process, due to her visits to Northern Ireland and her meetings with so many people. In private she made countless calls and contacts, speaking to leaders and opinion makers on all sides, urging them to keep moving forward.</p>

<p>Anyone criticizing her foreign policy involvement should look at her very active and positive approach to Northern Ireland and speak with the people of Northern Ireland who have the highest regard for her and are very grateful for her very active support for our peace process.”</p>

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<p>nez McCormack, first female president of the Irish Congress of Trade Unions:</p>

<p>"Hillary Clinton took risks for peace in asking me and others to bring women and communities from both traditions to affirm their capacity to work for common purpose and to assert, when there was no public dialogue which supported it, that working for common purpose on the basis of mutual respect was the core of effective peace building. She used her immense influence to give women like me space to develop this work and validated it every step of the way.</p>

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<p>2007: Hillary honored for her work on the Northern Ireland Peace process. Irish American Magazine named Hillary “Person of the Year”, celebrating “her work on the Northern Ireland peace process”. [Irish American Magazine, April/May 07</p>

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<p><a href=“http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6430[/url]”>http://facts.hillaryhub.com/archive/?id=6430&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>^ simba,</p>

<p>your quotes (<em>facts</em>) are from the Clinton campaign. If Hillary lies, why wouldn’t her campaign lie? <em>Facts</em> from her campaign propaganda mean nothing. :o</p>

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<p>simba, I don’t care that much about the whole thing, but quoting info from a Clinton campaign website isn’t terribly credible.</p>

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<p>oops. Crosspost there with 1sokkermom.</p>

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<p>That’s what I’m saying… I was in Northern Ireland and did speak to its citizens. I agree, they like her a lot, but when asked what she did specifically, all they could say was she traveled with Bill on his trips there and they appreciated that. These were well-educated people, business owners and very politically astute. Frankly, many of them have more knowledge and awareness of what’s going on in our political process here at home than many in my community. I could carry on a much more intelligent dialogue with the Irish and Northern Irish citizens than some of my friends.</p>

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<p>If I was on a job interview and I ‘misspoke’ about having a Harvard MBA degree (when I really only had an Accounting AA), I would be shown the door once the employer found out. </p>

<p>Hillary’s a candidate for the highest office in the US…</p>

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<p>Well the facts remain the same.</p>

<p>Bottomline. Obama addicts deep down do know that her foreign policy resume is more impressive than zero for Obama. The only way they can equalize the two is by down grading Hillary’s.</p>

<p>and sokkermom you invariably post the Obama campaign communication to make your point.</p>

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<p>If he foreign policy resume is so impressive, why then does she feel the need to “misspeak” about it. </p>

<p>I think its pretty hard to falsely remember getting sniped at on your way to the car…Or maybe thats just me.</p>

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<p>I’m not saying she doesn’t get some residual credit/glory for going on all these trips; I just don’t buy that she was integral to the Clinton administration’s big foreign policy initiatives. I think she’s embellishing. And now that she’s been caught, she’s backpedaling.</p>

<p>I don’t think she’s hit foreign policy homeruns and Obama has struck out. I think it’s more like she got walked and he’s just coming up to bat. Yeah, she’s on base, but we’ve yet to see how he’ll hit. I just don’t think he’s gonna strike out.</p>

<p>LMAO at the baseball analogy. DS1 has a game in less than five hours!</p>