Colleges for the Jewish "B" student (Part 1)

<p>To yabeyabe2: Your idea for small class size is right on target. We looked at American U. and it is a great school for government majors. I’ll check again at the Business school, but my son thought the focus of the school was for kids who want to work in government.
GWU is way too expensive. This search is more difficult than I thought.</p>

<p>RockvilleMom, I’ve been lurking on this thread a bit.</p>

<p>You mentioned that your son fits in well at BBYO, however not necessarily in ECs at his HS.</p>

<p>Definitely look into Goucher. My son just finished his freshman year there, and it has gone better than I could have imagined. It is a very welcoming place, with of course a strong Hillel and lots of Jewish students, and it does have a Business Management major.</p>

<p>Regarding Susquehanna – S strongly considered it, and we really enjoyed our visit to the campus. Just to weigh in on the issue of transportation options that were discussed – there may not be local bus service, but there is regular intercity bus service that connects Selinsgrove with Harrisburg, Baltimore, and Washington D.C. I looked into that. And, the main street of Selinsgrove is definitely within walking distance of the campus. There are shops and restaurants, and the Amish set up a market on Saturdays, as I recall. The business school has been mentioned, as has the fact that about 2 % of the students are Jewish.</p>

<p>mdcissp, American is certainly best known for government, but does have a separate business school–I think it is named Kogod. It is a nice campus and large Jewish population. I have heard some complaints that kids, especially the substantial number of affluent ones from the NYC area, often head to DC clubs and bars rather than stay on campus, but that may be overblown.</p>

<p>GWU is a reach for this GPA group, has no real campus, is very expensive and is said to have a surprisingly high transfer out rate.</p>

<p>When I started the search, I was thought there would be many suitable small schools and I still worry that I somehow missed some. </p>

<p>Magicsmom, I am glad your son enjoyed Goucher. It is often described as a great place for quirky kids, because the student body does not fit one stereotype and everyone gets along.</p>

<p>One other possibility is Marist, which some who visited came away thinking it was no longer for B+ kids, but it them admitted some B average kids without outstanding scores; hooks; etc. I am told it has a beautiful setting overlooking the Hudson, but, like Ithaca, Alfred and Binghamton, can get harsh in Winter.</p>

<p>AU and Goucher have limited undergrad Business programs (i.e. Business administration and not much else). I am not sure this is a good degree for a job at graduation. Might be better off at a B-program in Accounting, Risk Management and Insurance (U. of South Carolina and U. of Georgia), or a degree in Actuary Science. The recent news from the LA Times article Sunday about the UCLA student with a degree in Poli Sci and looking for a job in a bleak market is a wake up call to get a marketable degree. After spending all the money saved up for college, as well as being an older parent, I want to be sure that my son can get a job at graduation.</p>

<p>mdcissp, these majors are not for everyone and if one does not “get in” to the business schools as a freshman, they might not have the gpa to get in later. I do know people with ONLY undergrad degrees in business admin. and marketing who have done quite well too. It is better to find a school with AACSB accreditation if you think that your child will continue to graduate school.</p>

<p>Thanks Northeastmom, especially about the tip to look for AACSB accreditation. Is there a list of Business programs which have this accreditation?</p>

<p>Undergrad Business program in Israel taught in English:</p>

<p>If anyone is interested, look at idc.ac.il and click at the top for the description in English.
There is a 3 year undergrad Business degree taught in English at this international school, IDC, in Israel. Tuition is approx. $9,000. per year. It is a small size college, about 10 blocks from the Mediterranean sea, in a lovely suburb of Tel Aviv. At the grad level, this school has an exchange program with Wharton School of Business.</p>

<p>Yes, here it is:</p>

<p>[AACSB</a> International](<a href=“http://www.aacsb.edu/accreditation/AccreditedMembers.asp]AACSB”>Search Accredited Schools | AACSB)</p>

<p>Attending a school that does not have this accreditation does not mean doom, but it is better to have gone to one with AACSB accreditation for grad school.</p>

<p>Thanks-glad to see that Towson, Salisbury and UT Dallas are on the list.</p>

<p>B-school in Israel taught in English:</p>

<p>A 3 year undergrad Business program is available in Engish at IDC. Located in a lovely suburb of Tel Aviv, near the Mediterranean sea, small college. If interested, check it out at idc.ac.il and click on Engish at the top. School offers an exchange program with Wharton Business school at the grad level.</p>

<p>American is on the list, but Goucher apparently is not on it.</p>

<p>Have a look also at what the GPA will be needed for your son to be admitted into the business school if they are not directly admitted as an incoming freshman. You don’t want to be 2 years into paying for undergrad and then find out that your child is not going to be admitted into their business school! This might be another reason to pick more of a safety/match school than a high reach or reach school IMO. YMMV</p>

<p>I agree 101% with Northeast Mom’s sensible advice. This is why I am not interested in UMCP-you have to apply to the Smith Business School and it is a highly competitive program.
If you don’t get accepted, what do you end up at UMCP?</p>

<p>Sadly, none of Goucher, Muhlenberg, Gettysburg, Juniata, York, Franklin & Marshal and Dickinson appear to be on the list. </p>

<p>I was surprised AU, with a separate B school, had such limited undergrad offerings–it appears they offer much more at the MBA level.</p>

<p>Susquehanna is accredited and on their website, you will see they offer a wide variety of business majors and minors. You are admitted to the business school out of HS. The NY schools I mentioned–Alfred, Ithaca and Marist–are accredited.</p>

<p>Again, attending a biz school that does not have AACSB accreditation is not the end of the world. It can help to be a graduate of one with AACSB accreditation.</p>

<p>I think it is most helpful for those kids who do not want to pursue an MBA and are going to schools with lesser name recognition. Those same kids benefit from having more business courses to choose, because they will be selling themselves to employers on the basis of their undergraduate preparation, rather than their MBA or prestigious degree.</p>

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<p>We had an intern who applied to get into Smith as part of the articulation agreement from a local CC. Needed a 3.2, but was told that they’d be flexible if one had lots of ECs, etc. Had a 3.18, lots of ECs and leadership, but did NOT get into Smith. Is at the Shady Grove campus as an accounting major, so will have a business degree, but UM-SG is strictly commuters and a 40 minute drive in non-rush hour from College Park.</p>

<p>yabeyabe: not sure what you’re seeing in the AU program that seems limited to you. They have 3 undergrad B-School majors - and in the BS in Business Administration, they have 11 specializations. </p>

<p>I will admit my bias here – my Jewish “B” student daughter starts at AU in the fall, although she’ll be in the School of Int’l Studies, not business.</p>

<p>scro14, after mdcissp commented on the AU offerings being more meager than I had suggested, I looked at the introductory page on the website, which listed just Business Administration; Business, Language and Culture and Business and Music as majors for undergrads. about a third as many options as the MBA school. This seemed to confirm mdcissp’s point, so I did not look at the list of specializations.</p>

<p>Given the economic slump in Finance, Banking, and Business, I want to be sure that the Business major has some areas of study which are more likely to lead to a job upon graduation such as accounting and actuary science (sometimes in the business school and sometimes in the Math dept.). I thought AU undergrad Business had meager offerings. I also think it might be helpful to think of major/minor combination which can enhance your child’s education. For example, I suggested another option to our son to do the physical therapy assistant program at our local community college and then go to B-school. He seems to want to start a home business. I told him with a background in physical therapy, he could start a home business placing physical therapists to do home visits.</p>

<p>I guess I am just one of those worried, older parents that I want to be sure that my son has some marketable skills so that he can find a job upon graduation.</p>