<p>Does anyone know where to find the Common Data Set for Harvey Mudd
for 2010-2011?</p>
<p>[Common</a> Data Set](<a href=“http://www.hmc.edu/about/administrativeoffices/deanoffaculty1/ir1/cds.html]Common”>http://www.hmc.edu/about/administrativeoffices/deanoffaculty1/ir1/cds.html)</p>
<p>Or just go to the HM website and search for it.</p>
<p>The latest year that is given is 2009-2010.
I am looking for 2010 to 2011.</p>
<p>Here is the link to the Registrar’s Statistics</p>
<p>[Registrar’s</a> Statistics](<a href=“SACNAS Recognizes HMC Researchers | Harvey Mudd College News”>http://www.hmc.edu/about/administrativeoffices/registrar1/registrarstats.html)</p>
<p>The registrar’s statistics are interesting. I was actually interested in
admissions data which can be found in the common data set.</p>
<p>Total Admits 614
Female 314
Male 300
Percent admitted 19.5
Racial/ethnic distribution:
African-American/Black 20
Asian American or Asian 179
Hispanic/Latino/a 23
Native American/Alaskan/Hawaiian/Pacific Islander 2
White/Caucasian 290
Multiracial/Multiethnic 72
Unknown or no response 28
Multiracial or multiethnic students:
African descent 5
Asian descent 34
Latino descent 34
Native descent 7
Other descent 1
Geographic distribution:
CA (in-state) 223
Within the US (excluding CA) 338
Outside of the US 53
41 states represented and the District of Columbia
Most represented states: California, Washington, Texas, New York, Illinois, Maryland
19 countries and territories:
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Canada, China, France, Ghana, Hong Kong, India, Jamaica, Netherlands, Pakistan, Philippines, Serbia, Singapore, South Korea, Switzerland, Taiwan, Thailand, United Arab Emirates, Vietnam
Middle 50% scores:
SAT I Critical Reading 700-790
SAT I Math 750-800
SAT I Writing 710-790
SAT II Math 2 765-800
ACT Composite 33-35
High school:
Valedictorian or Salutatorian* 43.2%
Students in top 10% of class* 97.5%
Public school 69.4%
Private school 30.0%
Home schooled 0.6%</p>
<p>Is this the stuff you’re looking for? That’s for the incoming class.</p>
<p>This is part of what I had in mind. Thank you very much.
Do you mind telling me where you found this info?</p>
<p>I am also interested in similar information about the students who chose to attend.
This info is usually given in the Common Data Set.</p>
<p>“I am also interested in similar information about the students who chose to attend.”</p>
<p>Seeing as it’s still April, I assume that won’t be available yet for this year’s admissions</p>
<p>It’s off the admitted student’s webpage. It’s still April…the universal candidate’s reply date is May 1st. They won’t have info up about who chooses to attend for a while.</p>
<p>It would appear that Harvey Mudd is no longer posting the Common Data Set
but perhaps someone can point me to a source that may have the information I am seeking.</p>
<p>I am interested in the data on the SAT which gives the number of students
who score between 500 and 600, 600 and 700 and 700 to 800
on the Math, Reading and Writing Sections.</p>
<p>There are some schools that appear to not want to give out such information.
Harvard for one does not. MIT and Caltech do give out this info and Harvey Mudd has in the past but I cannot find it for the last year.</p>
<p>I imagine Mudd will post the data set for this year later. It isn’t complete yet, after all.
Here is last year’s data. </p>
<p>SAT Critical Reading
SAT Math
SAT Writing
C9
700-800
67.0%
95.0%
59.0%
C9
600-699
32.0%
5.0%
39.0%
C9
500-599
1.0%
0.0%
2.0%
C9
400-499
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
C9
300-399
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%
C9
200-299
0.00%
0.00%
0.00%</p>
<p>Thanks Nemom but I think that data is from 2009-2010.</p>
<p>The data that I am looking for is for 2010-2011.</p>
<p>They probably don’t have any data out yet for 2010-2011 because it’s only been 8 days since everyone accepted their admission and they’re still busy taking people off the waitlist.</p>
<p>The 2010-2011 year is for this academic year. It includes data for those admitted last year.
The students who are admitted this year would be included in data for 2011-2012.
For example this website gives the common data sets for MIT
which includes 2010-2011</p>
<p>[MIT</a> Office of the Provost, Institutional Research](<a href=“MIT Institutional Research”>MIT Institutional Research)</p>
<p>Harvey mudd has this website</p>
<p>[Common</a> Data Set](<a href=“http://www.hmc.edu/about/administrativeoffices/deanoffaculty1/ir1/cds.html]Common”>http://www.hmc.edu/about/administrativeoffices/deanoffaculty1/ir1/cds.html)</p>
<p>but it only has data from 2007-2008, 2008-2009 and 2009-2010</p>
<p>The common data set for 2010-2011 has now been posted.</p>
<p>In many ways it is quite similar to the previous year but
there has been a slight shift in the percentage of students who have scores in the 600-699
range on the Math SAT from 5% to 9%. This is certainly a few percentage points larger than
in the last several years. It is unclear whether this will be a change that will repeat
for the incoming class but may be a reflection of the school looking for a wider range of
talents. MIT is similar but Caltech only matriculates two or three students with these scores.</p>
<p>It would appear given the changes in the core that Mudd does do a good job trying
to help students who although very strong perhaps need a little more help with the rigorous
core.</p>
<p>twocollege–
Could you expound a bit more on your interpretations of this data, esp as it relates to schools like Harvey Mudd, MIT, and Caltech? Expand on your observation about Mudd’s efforts to help students to get through the rigorous core. Thank you.</p>
<p>Here is a little interpretation.</p>
<p>Harvey Mudd, MIT and Caltech all get very strong students.</p>
<p>Both Caltech and Harvey Mudd are small.</p>
<p>Since MIT is larger it can offer introductory courses at more than one level.
For this reason it can take care of the most advanced students
while also providing a quality education to just the very smart.
For this reason MIT can take a somewhat wider range of student
and it would appear that it has been able to diversify the class while
it maintains an excellent program for all admitted.</p>
<p>Caltech is in a more difficult situation. It should admit some of the most brilliant
students in the country, students who would not likely end up at Harvey Mudd.
Since it is so small it really cannot drop too far from such a high level. It will certainly
admit students who would also be a good fit with Mudd and some of these students
may be better off going to Mudd. It cannot however take all of the students who
would go to MIT because in the Caltech environment some of these students would
not succeed.</p>
<p>Mudd is in some ways like Caltech in the sense that it does not have different
levels of classes. On the other hand it probably does not get too many
of the students who would be in the top 20% of Caltech. This allows for a little more
room in choosing students who perhaps did not have certain opportunities in high school.
These students may have a good chance to get into MIT but not Caltech.</p>
<p>In the past it may have been a bad decision to take these students because the core was long and difficult at Mudd as it is at Caltech. However with the change in the core and the addition
of a couple of courses in calculus and chemistry for those that need extra help
Mudd is able to reach a somewhat more diverse group. </p>
<p>In the data this shows up as the increase in the percentage that score below 700
on the Math SAT. Of course it would be better to also have data on the SAT Math subject test but I do not know where to find that data.</p>
<p>I should say that I think that in many ways this is a good move on the part of Harvey Mudd.
It is also a dynamic process. With a greater percentage of women on the Mudd campus
the school will become attractive to a wider set of students some of who may not have
wanted to attend the school before. This makes it difficult to predict the mix of students
Mudd will be able to attract in the future.</p>
<p>twocollege–
Thank you for a very clear and diplomatic explanation. So your take is that Harvey Mudd is trying to steer a middle path in order to attract a more diverse group of students? I have conflicting feelings about this but I would like to hear any more observations you would choose to share. Thanks again.</p>
<p>Yes I would say that I think that Mudd is trying very hard to attract a more diverse
group of students and it has certainly had success attracting more women. I think that
this is a good thing but that it will have certain consequences.</p>
<p>My first prediction is that Mudd will soon have a somewhat larger applicant pool.</p>
<p>My other prediction is that Mudd will have more students majoring in Biology and
Chemistry. Certainly the number of MIT students in biology has grown and I would
expect the same to happen at Mudd. This in of itself is neither good nor bad. However
I do think that Mudd will be in a difficult situation in a few years unless it increases the
number of students. If biology and chemistry have more students which areas will
have fewer students and will Mudd be able to afford all the faculty in these areas?
Moreover it is not just money. There needs to be a critical mass of students
for certain advanced classes to be offered. I actually have great confidence
if my prediction proves correct (of course I could be wrong!) that Mudd will work out a way
to maintain its strength in the fields of math, physics and engineering. I think that it will be
necessary to grow the student body but perhaps someone will think of another approach.</p>
<p>I just want to challenge the idea that the lower percentage points on the Math SAT are due directly to the increase in women being accepted. Am I missing the data that breaks down these numbers by gender (or ethnicity?) My HMC student, a woman & a member of an underrepresented group (a really rather unwieldy euphemism) rocked 800’s on both the subject & reg math SAT test. This is my endless rant here - I actually think it is more likely a factor of socioeconomic diversity that might account for the slightly lower test scores - fewer opportunities for advanced courses at your school & less ability to take outside or college level courses, would make it harder to achieve the higher test scores even with raw talent. Anyway, HMC could be looking ahead at the changing demographics of the US and trying to adapt early to become a school that attracts the population of the future. Just my read, no inside info so I could be off-base.</p>