Community College -> Berkeley: Is it worth it?

<p>My high school resume doesn’t capture what I’m capable of (as I ran into A LOT of trouble sophomore year) so in order to get into Berkeley I need to go to community college and succeed there. Right now it seems like I’m not really missing out on anything, lower tuition, possibility of being a one year transfer, and a higher acceptance rate than freshman applications. So basically, I was wondering; Am I missing out on anything that will ruin my life? Would it be better to just go to Boston University or New York University (Don’t want to go there because $$$$$$) as a freshman? Thank you.</p>

<p>It is worth it as long as you succeed. Getting in as a transfer is still tough but you will save a lot in the long run. Any stigma that they say about transfers feeling behind compared to those who came in as freshman are over hyped as well.</p>

<p>If you still want the Berkeley freshman experience, you can move to Berkeley and take your classes at Berkeley City College and get involved in Berkeley clubs. That’ll make the transition easier. Have you already gotten into NYU or BU? Depending on your major, it might be better to just go there. If you are applying to Berkeley for a non impacted major as long as you get really high grades you can be sure (or at least 90% sure) that you’ll get in, but if you are implying for something that’s impacted then it’s not guaranteed, and you would be better off going somewhere that you already know you have gotten into.</p>

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<p>this. transfers are no different from other berk students</p>

<p>I want to major in mathematics (so it has like a thirty percent acceptance rate for transfers which is higher than the freshman acceptance rate for L&S), and no I haven’t officially gotten in yet (I’m a junior), but I have a pretty good chance of getting into BU and NYU based off of all of the chancing programs I’ve gone into. And I really like the Berkeley City College building so if I was going to a community college I’d go there. I’m not really scared about being academically unprepared as I was able to teach myself calculus in a few months and am going into differential equations and complex variables soon so if anything I’ll be advanced when I transfer. But I was interested in going to Grad school, am I put at a disadvantage because of this? Will employers look at this badly? etc.</p>

<p>Hmmm I remember BCC not having many math classes so you may need to travel to different community colleges to complete all of your prereqs. I don’t think going to a community college is a bad thing for grad schools but having too many transcripts may be. I have been to a bunch of community colleges and now what worries me about applying to grad school is that I’ll have to send a bunch of transcripts (double digits :frowning: ) and that’ll look bad, especially since several just have one class that’s a W or a C or something. So living in Berkeley but commuting to CCSF may be better for you-that school is BIG with TONS of classes. </p>

<p>Another option is to take GEs and as many math classes at BCC and take the classes they don’t offer at UCB during the summer. That’s what I did for my major. Yes, it is expensive but if you prepare ahead of time for paying UCB tuition just for summer classes I think it is worth it. That will look good for grad schools too. So here would be a sample schedule for you:
summer right after high school: take 1-2 math classes at UCB
fall: take 4 GE classes like english 1a, a physical science class, an art class, and a humanities class at BCC
spring: take more GE classes like bio + bio lab and english 1b and possible a math class if offered
summer: take 2 math classes at UCB
fall: finish your arts + humanities requirement and possibly a math class <em>APPLY TO CAL</em>
spring: finish your social science requirement and possibly a math class <em>hear back from cal</em>
summer: take your last lower div math requirement or start your upper divs
fall: start upper division at cal</p>

<p>I am currently living right next to palomar and Mira Costa so I was planning on doing some classes in one of those during my senior year of high school (get about four done) and then do four classes each semester so I could transfer in one year. ( I have sixteen classes to do for transfer)… But I might still have to do classes at BCC and CCSF to finish it up, as BCC has the highest transfer rate. And then I would have the UC Berkeley transcript. Is it possible to get the transcripts merged? How would that work? Thanks. I just thought that BCC was a huge school so they’d have everything I needed lol.</p>

<p>Is there a mandatory or a preferred order of classes for IGETC? I know there is normally a mandatory order for major prerequisites. Wow, I just want to thank everyone for being so helpful in this process. I never thought about what most people were saying on here.</p>

<p>BCC is tiny. They barely have any classes. I hated it there, I highly recommend CCSF if you dont mind the commute. I think BCC has somewhere around 5000 students and CCSF has 120,000 to give you an idea.</p>

<p>There’s no mandatory order though get your English done fast. I’d recommend taking English 1a your first semester and 1b your second, they really care about those classes, and also having some more writing under your belt will making your arts, humanities, and social science requirements a lot easier.</p>

<p>Unfortunately you can’t merge transcripts which is why I recommend pick a college and sticking to it. I really hate the fact that I have a million transcripts and it’s going to look so bad, not to mention be extremely expensive, to send them to every grad school I apply to.</p>

<p>If I can re-start my life after high school, I would go to a community college then come to Berkeley as a junior transfer.</p>

<p>A question: Why are only NYU and BU your four year school “backups”? Why not various other UCs (LA, SD, D, I, SB), or places like Minnesota and Stony Brook which are also very good for math but cost considerably less than NYU and BU?</p>

<p>As far as CCs go, the math major required lower division courses (Math 1A, 1B, 53, 54) are at least theoretically offered at just about every CC – see [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) . You may want to check actual class offerings and space in the CCs you may be considering. Math 55 is the only additional lower division required course at Berkeley, but is not required before transfer since not all CCs have it (again, see [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) ). If you have other interests like computer science or economics, consider checking whether the CCs have lower division courses to prepare for those majors, so that you can take upper division electives in those subjects after transfer. Of course, you would also need to fulfills breadth or IGETC.</p>

<p>Math major degree programs at other UCs may have additional lower division major requirements besides math courses (e.g. computer science). See [Welcome</a> to ASSIST](<a href=“http://www.assist.org%5DWelcome”>http://www.assist.org) .</p>

<p>You do not need to take all courses at the same CC, although you should be aware that in some cases, the division of material between courses may vary between different CCs, or CCs and UCB or other UCs (especially between quarter and semester system schools). This means that you may have to take an entire sequence of courses at one school to avoid having to partially repeat courses due to the courses not mapping one-to-one.</p>

<p>Many math majors are “ahead” in math and would ordinarily start taking upper division math courses in sophomore or even freshman year. This is normally not possible when starting at a community college, unless you are near UCB and take UCB upper division math courses on a space available basis through Extension Concurrent Enrollment (check whether other UCs offer something similar). Be aware, though, that if you take any courses from any four year school (presumably including UCB Extension Concurrent Enrollment), you do not want to be over 80 total semester units when you transfer to UCB.</p>

<p>Regarding graduate school, it is likely that PhD programs look mainly at your upper division (and graduate level, if any) course work and undergraduate research, not whether you did lower division at CC. Medical and dental schools (especially outside of California) may be a different story, as they are said to disfavor taking pre-medical/dental courses at CCs.</p>

<p>80 semester units only applies to four year schools where a student had to actually be enrolled. They are getting rid of this rule soon. Regardless, it won’t apply because he’s not going to do 80 units thru extension.</p>

<p>The limit is 80 units if any of them were from four year schools. So 76 units from CCs plus 8 units from four year schools (total 84 units) would be a problem, but 84 units all from CCs would not be. Different UC campuses may have different rules.</p>

<p><a href=“https://students.berkeley.edu/myberkeley/myberkeleyapp.asp?todo=cms&id=89#6[/url]”>https://students.berkeley.edu/myberkeley/myberkeleyapp.asp?todo=cms&id=89#6&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>^^^multiple people have called UCB admissions and they have confirmed that currently, the rule is only 80 units from a 4 year. And taking a class through extension does NOT count. I personally verified this before registering for UCB summer sessions.</p>

<p>Sorry im a bit late, just to clear things up a bit maybe my sat score was significantly higher than my GPA because my highschool wasnt the best and I realised I needed to be self thought to not drop out, dont get me wrong it was STRONG in writing but grading was extremely subjective as they didnt really assign enough work to cover all.of the math/ science standards so thats why im looking at nyu and bu over other ucs, well that and id rather go to cc and transfer than stick around home or go to a uc that I dont really feel a match in and id probably just want to transfer from. Please dont get me started about how many textbooks I worked through in a year to cover everything… It wasnt pretty. Im currently living in oceanside (near San Diego) but desperately looking to get a change of scenery, and the fact that the community colleges near me dont have a high transfer rate made me think it might be time. </p>

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<p>When I say drop out I mean out of college.</p>

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<p>Majority of the Math classes are at Laney instead of BCC (although Garcia does teach Calc and DE at BCC). Both campuses are right next to the Bart station and Laney has some great Math instructors there.</p>

<p>Okay, because im not really used to San Francisco transport system or all of the community colleges up there ill just say this; ill go to any school with a high transfer rate to uc Berkeley and all of the classes I need. Again, I dont currently live up there so commute doesnt matter at this point.</p>

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<p>Btw, I got into Cal, and was rejected from BU (not even waitlisted), with high-ish SATs, okay UCGPA, terrible overall GPA, and great (in retrospect) essays. If you think there’s a match, apply anyway. If you don’t get in, and really believe there’s a good match, CC->Cal would be completely worth it. I’ve only been attending classes here a week, and it’s pretty effing nice.</p>