<p>thanks for your explanation!</p>
<p>“College Board, the evil empire SAT office have moved?
now in Miami Florida PO box. (was NJ, either way evil)”</p>
<p>No kidding. Jersey’s one of America’s armpits, Florida is it’s grundel…</p>
<p>where have you been, parlsky!?!?!? ((((((((((((bear hug)))))))))))))))
what else is new?</p>
<p>So I learned new word “grundel”</p>
<p>[An</a> old carousel’s by the Brooklyn Bridge is one of the happiest little spots in New York City](<a href=“http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=51172]An”>http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=51172)
I can not remember here or elsewhere, there was a poster named “paintedponies” debating if s/he should come to NYC for art school or not.
I mentioned that there is an plan to install old carousel in DUMBO.
It happened before I know it.
Brooklyn Bridge park.
There were many makers and different styles of wooden carousel horses
Coney Island style (gilded, mane flying manga style) would be the fitting native ponies but these ones are Philly style, looking more like real horses.
right after Peter Cooper time, the turn of the century is like, wooden painted ponies’ golden age. Stories of famous curvers, manufactures, business buy-out, stealing design back and forth and such are very interesting drama! drama! of my kind.
just to think, there were workshops in the city where men hand curved horse after horses, it was only 1900-15sh. only 100 years ago.
someone here said everything you see, use, touch is something to do with design.
Wooden ponies are the same way, how it developed by immigrants brought their skills with them, local flavors added, sons joins business, time changes, replaced by aluminum horses (gawk) what are they made of nowadays? plastic? fiberglass?
such ponies aren’t be able to restored after 100 years.
Now that it is done and properly installed, it can be used as it meant to be.
as any designed object should be.
much better than sitting in the museum or auctioned off to be sit in someone’s home where their little kids aren’t allow to ride on it. (or housekeeper get fired)
“nonono honey, it’s antique, don’t touch that!!”
“nonono honey, don’t use soap, it’s antique!!”</p>
<p>today is a busy day.
it is now 21,800 views and up.
WNYC had guests, the graphic novel guy who did Artschool confidential and one other, who I don’t know much about.
[The</a> Leonard Lopate Show: Daniel Clowes and Seth on Cartooning - WNYC](<a href=“http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2011/oct/18/daniel-clowes-and-seth-cartooning/]The”>http://www.wnyc.org/shows/lopate/2011/oct/18/daniel-clowes-and-seth-cartooning/)
going artschool back then did not help becoming comic artist, it was more of been scoffed at. Things are changed now. and keep changing. They don’t like technology but new generation will do whatever they will.
There was a book signing and talk at local bookstore and I went there as well.
few things I learned
- It helps to be good looking and great public speaker even you’d spend great amount of time alone, drawing in your room. Daniel is tall, dark polo pants boots casual, has beautiful large angular hands.
Seth is cute in blue suit with (three in the row!)brass buttons and designer eyeglasses, funny hair.
Good comic artists are expected to perform for the live audiences, and they know that. - both got wife each addressed rather lovingly each, means got somewhat normal human life.
- do not wait for inspiration to start working. work 9-5 like insurance salesman, no weekend or overtime, this way, you get done more and stay healthy mentally physically.
- even thou after “commercial success” no one would know cartoonists the way of real celebrities. When Daniel Clows went to book signing in Canada, the border police was suspicious of his reason and occupation, asked to draw something to prove he was telling the truth.
He was going to draw his usual stuff (creepy people) but was afraid that would make him stunned with gun, so drew fake snoopy. the guard went “awwww” and let him go.
so, learn to draw Snoopy, it is a good skill to have. - no need to embrace technology if you are THE comic artist. stay obscure. means, don’t buy new Wacom tablet !?!?!?!</p>
<p>what all^this got do with Cooper? A LOT.
usually few kids would show graphic novels in their student shows.
the bookstore was on Crosby street, where 1 buck samosas are two buildings away, and near Cooper. If not in budget crunch, I would have eaten samosa for second dinner of the day and thought about his friends at Cooper, then about him. It is weird, I see him everywhere, him-look alike. kind of sad. It was his hangout. Union sq, Strand, Cooper, Houston, one buck samosa, $1.25 dumplings. Same hair do, same sort of clothes, unshaven, paint stained, torn, holes, dirt, sketchbooks, guitar, sandals
downtown is filled with phantoms. boohoo wooooooo my kid gone</p>
<p>I’m going to post this question in a few threads in hopes that someone who knows will see my question.</p>
<p>Does anyone know anything about the fine arts or illustration program at The New England School of Art and Design. What is the reputation? What is the quality of the education?</p>
<p>Hi Bear.</p>
<p>I’m around, lurking mostly. Working and making art, and planning and scheming for the day I get to ditch everything and go be a poor artist.</p>
<p>Chicagoartmom - I’d never even heard of the school until recently on a word visit to Boston, I thought I’d check out the schools in the city and stumbled on it. What is it that’s drawing you to that school in particular?</p>
<p>parlsky
aw goodieee
can you help this kid? no one replied.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/1230968-putting-together-portfolio-newbie-here.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/1230968-putting-together-portfolio-newbie-here.html</a></p>
<p>hi Chicagomom
I never heard of the name and looked up a bit.
It seems school itself is old but operation system with Suffolk U is new-sh, and professional training or CE heavy rather than hard core arty-art BFA.
It might help to get practical job, like interior design which seems big deal there, that not all other art schools offer.
sorry, their website has worst images I ever seen for any art schools, except maybe some state Us half heartedly built website for it’s weak-sh art dept.
You shouldn’t judge schools by what web image they used, of course.
I am totally biased on this, you don’t have to listen.
Just wondering what made you think it is a good pick. big portion of full time faculties are locally educated. I’d be bit wary on that.</p>
<p>Well, the New England School is just something we stumbled upon at National Portfolio Day after getting annoyed at the long lines for RISD. I guess something inside me is a little bit of a rebel and I tend to like the underdog, so I was attracted to the small program, affiliated with a university. But I was just wondering if anyone had any first hand knowledge.</p>
<p>The university with an arts department is something that she’s considering but hasn’t seen anything that’s really exciting to her. We have the University of Illinois here, but since everyone goes there and it’s a big school, surrounded by cornfields with football, frats, etc., she’s turned off. That’s not her scene at all. Also, I could be wrong, but it seems like the university programs are more general, without enough art classes to really hone a craft for a job. Again, I’m new to this, so I could be totally off base with this perception.</p>
<p>It all seems to come back to RISD as the best shot anyone can get. I think I’ll have a hard time convincing my husband that ANY education is worth that kind of money. He’s kind of in the college is overrated camp. But, as my daughter’s high school teacher said, the art world is a club and you have to have one of the big names on your resume to join the club. All the people hiring went to those schools. </p>
<p>Anyway, life’s a big crapshoot, I’ve decided. I just saw this documentary about Steve Jobs (my son is kind of a groupie), and I realized no one knows what the life journey will entail. In this doc, it explained that Steve, a genius, was adopted at birth by two high school dropouts. They quickly realized that their son was smarter than they were and when he would get in trouble at school, they would blame the school and not Steve. Therefore, Steve grew up believing the rules didn’t apply to him. And that’s how he changed the world!</p>
<p>That’s really bad parenting and most people would caution against letting your kids think they are above the rules. See, you never know. It’s all a big risk.</p>
<p>oh, that makes sense
there should be shorter lined more known schools at NPD.
RISD is just that, RISD. You can still get in even you can’t do NPD if her stats and works are good. money is whole other story.
have you followed “launch” thread? you can skip and skim as you like, but loveblue (Cooper mom, SAIC and WashU top schalrship $$ kid) linked Steve jobs’s speech and we talked about how that would apply to our art kids, on page 122.
check it up!
stay around pls.</p>
<p>Hey thanks. I will check that out later. Gotta go make the doughnuts to pay for the fancy schools.</p>
<p><a href=“Cooper Union May Charge Tuition to Undergraduates - The New York Times”>Cooper Union May Charge Tuition to Undergraduates - The New York Times;
someone in the parents forum linked it.
Olin, Antioch, now Cooper.
What’s left besides Curtis and army navy schools?</p>
<p>in other hand, it will be interesting to know how app numbers would affect if they’d start charging said face value, $37,500/y
I bet if they’d sell off president’s house, it will keep going til babyblue and lil’swits are done.</p>
<p>FACILITIES AND RESOURCES
21Stuyvesant Street
The historic townhouse at 21 Stuyvesant Street, which is known as the Stuyvesant Fish House, was given to the college as a gift in the late 1990s. Renovated by Cooper Union architecture alumna Toshiko Mori (yet another Japanese arch, what else?) it serves as the President’s Residence.</p>
<p>I would suspect that what you would see is a drop in applications from those in the upper income brackets since he says that they’d retain the free tuition for middle and lower income brackets. And then they’d probably have to lower the fee charges down into middle income brackets to make up for the fewer applicants who would pay. Or… accept more based on ability to pay than quality of work??? Anyway you look at it this will affect the application process for sure. The year my kid applied they had something like a 70% jump in applications, I’m not sure that reflected the number actually finishing the home test or just the basic application, my thought is that the figure represented the basic application. The good news for loveblue’s daughter et al is that the free tuition will remain for those already enrolled.</p>
<p>Oh LoveBlue I’m really curious as to what your daughter thinks about Ron Paul’s plan to phase out the federal student loan plan if he’s elected? I’m wondering if that makes him less interesting to current college students who find him appealing.</p>
<p>Didn’t talk to D about Ron Paul for a long time. I can ask.
feel sad Cooper can not keep free next year but nothing I can do.</p>
<p>It doesn’t sound like it’s a certain thing yet Loveblue. I’m reading it as something he’s throwing out there as a possibility. If it doesn’t create a problem ask her about Paul’s wanting to end tuition loans, I’d be interested since a lot of young people are drawn to him without really knowing how awful he is (and racist to boot) woops ignore that, didn’t mean to get political here just a personal opinion, well actually the racist part is verifiable.</p>
<p>smarty
how is your take on the Pizza king guy?
I liked his mode til this sex harassment thing come up, it was still OK just came up but he’d start flip flopping about what happened…
why are they so stupid?
this is a great big country filled with smart people. why there ain’t anyone good?</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/nyregion/st-marks-bookshop-in-the-east-village-gets-rent-reduction.html[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/03/nyregion/st-marks-bookshop-in-the-east-village-gets-rent-reduction.html</a>
the college (Cooper) agreed to reduce the store’s rent to about $17,500 a month from about $20,000 for one year, and to forgive $7,000 in debt. </p>
<p>then some Cooper students are wondering what about the plan to start charging tuition?
what I started to understand is, money is fluid.
what I ever know was all solid. paper bills, coins, checks. but these big big monies are ever shifting moving going around thing, like lava, like pancake batter.
I bet Peter Cooper himself doesn’t know if he is rich or broke for real if he lived in our time…</p>
<p>share a link:
[EV</a> Grieve: ‘Gesture of unity’ yesterday at Cooper Union](<a href=“http://evgrieve.com/2011/11/gesture-of-unity-yesterday-at-cooper.html]EV”>EV Grieve: 'Gesture of unity' yesterday at Cooper Union)</p>
<p>[First</a> retrospective of Maurizio Cattelan opens at the Guggenheim Museum in New York](<a href=“http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=51568]First”>http://www.artdaily.org/index.asp?int_sec=2&int_new=51568)
I think it was in so-called “TX thread” me and mom4 hijacked on, I linked this artist’s work made out of push broom against wrinkled blank canvas was bought by respectable Texas institution.
He did all these plank arts and now in Guggenheim big-o-show, and announced he is retiring form the art world.
I think he have done everything he wanted to do, for himself is not painter nor sculptor, but directer/executioner of ideas. If one is creating with own hand, there would be no retirement. I just saw de Koonng retrospective at MoMA and none of later works I liked much but he was changing constantly, trying something new, discovering.
but Maurizio Cattelan is, to me, some “accidental rock star artist” build on past and current issues: politics, culture, art showing and buying trends
If the world he lives in and deal with is still interesting to him, he can come up with yet more hilarious ideas. What sad is that maybe he had it enough.
OR
just going for publicity before things get really really bad (EU, revolution that do not end up revoluted, mother nature, economy and what in America) and we’d get too cynical or tired of him and his career would be then really over.</p>
<p>either way, just in time for holiday homecomings and Saturday nights are pay as you wish!
thank you thank you Guggenheims.</p>