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<p>from today’s artdaily e-newsletter
<a href=“Artdaily - The First Art Newspaper on the Net”>Artdaily - The First Art Newspaper on the Net;

<p>NEW YORK, NY.- Sotheby’s Evening Sale of Impressionist and Modern Art is currently underway in New York and a number of exceptional prices have already been achieved: </p>

<p>· A new auction record for Amedeo Modigliani was set tonight when the artist’s iconic Nu assis sur un divan (La Belle Romaine) sold for a remarkable $68,962,500. Five different bidders competed for the stunning nude, driving the price well past the more than $40 million* that had been expected. La Belle Romaine is from Modigliani’s most important series of nudes, all painted circa 1917. </p>

<p>Other highlights thus far included two works sold tonight to benefit YoungArts, the core program of the National Foundation for Advancement in the Arts (NFAA): Le Bassin aux Nymphéas, a spectacular canvas from Claude Monet’s iconic water lilies series which sold for $24,722,500 and Amedeo Modigliani’s Jeanne Hébuterne (au chapeau), one of the artist’s first major portraits of the muse that dominated his art in the final years of his life which brought $19,122,500. </p>

<p>Founded in 1981, YoungArts is the only national program that recognizes artistic excellence in 17- and 18-year olds by providing them with life-changing experiences that inspire their pursuit of the arts. YoungArts provides more than $500,000 in grants annually to support artistic endeavors and studies for these aspiring artists, and ensures that they will be exposed to mentors and tools that will lead them on a pathway to a serious career in the arts or prepare them for schools like Harvard, Juilliard, Carnegie Mellon or many others. </p>

<p>----Happy 6600 views?
I lost count.
Modigliani died penniless, everyone knew he was a genius but waited out till he is dead to buy his works because he was almost dead thru his Paris days.
His wife with unborn baby jumped out the window and killed herself shortly after.
Their first born daughter lived but obviously the estates are not well (or too well? I have to look up) managed… phew, 68-69 million. for one painting!!
and the family had no bread to eat after he drunk and smoke what little he made.
but
see ^here, it helps NFAA YoungArts.
let’s not worry about where rest of the profits are going…
24,722,500 Monet + 19,122,500 Modigliani - 500,000 NFAA grants if and any at all funded by Sotheby’s.
let fammom do the math.</p>

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<p>So we have been hovering on the perimeter of this Cooper Union discussion and now have distilled my questions to a couple areas where I would really appreciate feedback from this forum. I don’t think we will be able to make a trip to NYC before the 1/7/11 app is due. A couple questions I am hoping you all can help with so we can decide if this school is a potential fit.</p>

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<li>Housing. ugh. We crossed Art Center off because they don’t have housing (in suburban Pasadena!). Do soph - senior kids generally find safe housing in the area close to campus? Is it reasonable to expect a kid who loses her glasses to remember to pay rent and buy food?</li>
<li>Portfolio. Mostly drawings, some painting. Is there an expectation that the portfolio is more diversified than that? Unfortunately, we won’t see them at an NPD before the due date to get that feedback.</li>
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<p>Visitor! with questions!!!
I am a fake Cooper parent, maybe switters and loveblue would pop in for admission issues.
I recommend you check on livejounal Cooper community and there must be few more I don’t know about where kids post hometest works that got them in or out.
Some are pretty awful but that is the beauty of Cooper.
I have this thread from last year if that helps any.
<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/870372-test-your-cooper-iq.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/visual-arts-film-majors/870372-test-your-cooper-iq.html&lt;/a&gt;
About housing, answer would be no. If you want your kid near the school it will be $$$$$ by him/herself (2K month and up) or with roommates - divided by head count thou in legit buildings, landlord won’t allow more than two or three because they’d wreck plumbing and hike up water bill tenants don’t have to pay.
I have a friend whose D is in second year lives in scary area (no longer not so but still) Brooklyn with 10 other Cooper kids.
Most become friends during foundation and decides to room together, thou it will be tough life unless family money is streaming in.
But they are young, driven, happy, talented, Cooper kids. It is doable, if your kid is that kind, and you are the best judge on that.
Good news, if you forget to pay rent here you’d get notice and they don’t just kick you out but want your money rather, so will be more notice, more chance to pay off.
buying food is the best thing around Cooper, I did length of food issues here in this thread.</p>

<p>Now let’s wait on real Cooper parents.</p>

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<p>My D get in Cooper last year through Regular Decision. She said her classmates are driven and talented. It is fun, Challenge. Nice to watch other’s project “SO COOL” during critic. She likes most of her teachers.
First year housing is not a problem, since she live in the dorm Cooper provided. Haven’t start to looking for a place to live next year. I did the house payment for her the first year. No Meal Plan, which is fine since there are so many choice around that area like BAndD said.<br>
Feel her portfolio is fine, she use the same portfolio for all her applications. She has traditional painting,drawing, some conceptional pieces …</p>

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<p>Hi, my S got rolled over from early decision and got in regular decision. I thought his portfolio was strong, but I wouldnt call it diversified. Almost no drawings, mostly paintings. But I have seen the other extreme too. His hometest was good, but weird. The essays were in my opinion pretty strong. If you go on flickr, or livejournal, or deviant art, you can stalk last few years hometest solutions.</p>

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<p>Thanks for all your feedback. It was enough to share with D to see if she wants to go there badly enough to be self sufficient with housing and food. She doesn’t. So, one less school to apply to…and lots of time saved on the hometest.</p>

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<p>Housing is a tricky issue. The opposite of having to find your own housing, with all the responsibility that entails, is being given a room that doesn’t meet your needs somehow, and not being able to do much of anything about it. We all can imagine (or remember) various roommate issues, but my D1 had a strange issue pop up. Her dorm isn’t air conditioned. Not a hellishly hot place, but it means leaving the windows open. Pollen comes in, and her allergies and asthma kick into high gear for the first time in years. We’re stuck with it for the rest of the year but I know now that for her younger sister (who has worse allergies) we will have to eliminate schools that have unairconditioned dorms for freshman. That’s a lot of schools!</p>

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<p>OK bears, you asked me for it - " done well with no tip on the shoulder ". Not ‘tip’ (unless he’s a balancing waiter), but ‘chip’, “chip on shoulder”. Don’t know the derivation, but I have to look it up now, even for myself!</p>

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<p>chip on the shoulder, potato chips, poker chips, chip 'n dale rescue rangers.
tip for the waiter, doorman, cab driver, french maid, tip on how to lose 10 lbs in 5 days, tip for good spelling.
I think I got it (did I?)</p>

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<p>@greenwitch: I thought the dorms in the Commons were airconditioned… does your D’s not work? Maybe I’m remembering something wrong, is your D not in the commons? MICA girl was not happy with the lack of AC in the other buildings and classrooms… and she complained about walking (that little bit of distance!!) in the heat – but then again, my D tends to be a creature of comfort and would complain about stuff like that… you know, too hot, too cold… we’ll just call her Goldilocks.</p>

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<p>I’ll be her bears, all three rolled into one
thou should warn before sampling, my Traderjoe’s porridge has gluten in it.</p>

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<p>Gmom - it’s the other D who has no AC. She’s generally stoic about things but doesn’t like having to wake up and use her inhaler immediately! She would love to be in her own apartment by now.</p>

<p>D2 at MICA doesn’t like the heat either. MICA was the southernmost school she would apply to. I guess overly hot dorms and paint thinner and other chemicals could be a real hazard. I think the Commons are great, except when you have to schlepp a lot of stuff from your car, and you can’t get into the lot or use the fire exits.</p>

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<p>6800 and going, good to be on the 1st page</p>

<p>For those not going to award dinner Nov 9th, $500 and up
here is some Cooper neighborly thing</p>

<p>The QAS =The Quarterly Art Soiree
[url=&lt;a href=“http://www.THEQAS.com%5Dwww.theqas.com%5B/url”&gt;http://www.THEQAS.com]www.theqas.com[/url</a>]</p>

<p>Sunday 14th November
2pm-2am@ Webster Hall
one day. one mission. one historic venue.
Dance, photography, theater, painting, music, film, sculpture, installation, live art.
The mission of The QAS is to exhibit, expose and promote talent in painting, music, film, fashion, theater, graphic design and performance, installation and video art while celebrating the rich cultural history of the Webster Hall venue and of New York City’s dynamic East Village.
We seek to showcase art, fashion and music in vibrant and unassuming manner so that the art form is not held to the traditional pedestals of the “white-cube” gallery, sleek runway, classic stage and the like.
Rather, the prospective spectator may witness the creations as an organic part of a communal environment-where not one thing is set apart from another -
and where art may fuse with everyday life.</p>

<p>-is what it says on the flier, to make it simple, there will be Cooper faculties and students works in that scary barely standing I won’t go up to the balcony if I were you-music hall on E 11th street near Cooper.
$20 at door $15 online ticket portion of the profit will be donated to the Bowery Mission; yep still there, gentrified or not. every dollar made will feed few homeless turkey dinner.
Should I go see? I don’t know… I am too old and un-hip. will report.</p>

<p>PS
at last Cooper got new view book 2010-2011. suspiciously look alike from the ones in past years -cover design,layout, whatnot.
will study and news, numbers report coming soon!!</p>

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<p>[Diana</a> Al-Hadid - United States Artists](<a href=“http://www.unitedstatesartists.org/Public2/USAFellows/2009Fellows/ByDiscipline/DianaAl-Hadid/index.cfm]Diana”>http://www.unitedstatesartists.org/Public2/USAFellows/2009Fellows/ByDiscipline/DianaAl-Hadid/index.cfm)</p>

<p>The above link provide the winners of “USA Fellows 2009 Visual Arts” by click on the names list left side. I am really lost about “why” they can be a winner! Will like to see all your opinions.</p>

<p>BAndD: Sorry for post this in Cooper … Feel like this is what Cooper or many art schools are training their students? Not sure about this either.</p>

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<p>No mom, totally fine. everyone should contribute anything about art here, maybe not so much of stats, numbers, usual issues but something more. I really appreciate what everyone brought in, parlsky, mom4, greenwitch, drae… we can talk about whatever, if anyone want to read them, they do, if someone stop reading like,
" whaaat? BS!! I thought it was about graphic design program at Cooper!? "
then they are missing something fun and make them smart. heheh</p>

<p>About the list, I skimmed and the fellowships seems relatively new, decided by nomination only by their staff. You can’t just put your name down. someone in there have to nominate you, means you have to be showing off, speaking loud to get their attention already.
requirements here says
-To be considered for fellowships, artists must be 21 years of age or older and U.S. citizens or legal residents in any U.S. state.<em>A legal resident is any individual who has the status of having been lawfully accorded the privilege of residing permanently in the U.S. as an immigrant in accordance with the U.S. immigration laws.</em>Artists must have the following:
• Expert artistic skills
• Artistic education or training (formal or informal)
• A history of deriving income from those skills
• A history of*active engagement in creating artwork and presenting it to the public</p>

<p>have to be American means, not kaelyn- kind of caliber.
need training means, better have MFA Yale, UCLA, Columbia, thou I saw some oddballs in your list.
history of income means, have to be making living out of art, not waiter or pole dancer. you can’t be bear maker unless bear is your art, You can’t be IT people unless you are John Maeda.
history of active engagement means, had to had gallery show or two, other people than USA ( United States Artists) had to say they are good art, which comes down to your question…</p>

<p>ARE THEY GOOD ART?
sorry, I really don’t know. I think they are awful, too.
thou the first upside-down sculpture girl, I knew of interesting article I read few month ago, I am looking for it now.
other than that, I don’t know them or their works, I can not care less but hey, they are winners.
I feel for your concern, I don’t know if this helps you any, but they know what they are doing, not just putting piece of wood or plastic together.
someone bought into their “vision” “voice” whatnot and backed them up, so these USA people noticed them, nominated them.
How to be prepared and go thru this mystery process is, I guess, school like Cooper would teach fresh out of HS kids and that’s why they chose to go to artschool for fine art.
What and how their works in the end of BFA MFA-ing looks to old timers like us is not that important, as long as someone who knows these thing (remember those galleries in Chelsea) stamps and says they are good.
I have ache in my heart every time I pass by Cooper thinking of little switters and little love getting smarter and better every this seconds while my kid wondering around aimlessly.
I yearn for the opportunity but with same suspicion as you deep inside. Though at least four years, They are in there believing, working hard making pile of trash.
Support your kid, believe in Cooper.</p>

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<p>I really like Dario Robleto. The “ingredients” he uses in his stuff always wows me:</p>

<p>[DARIO</a> ROBLETO | /// NO FUN ](<a href=“http://no--fun.blogspot.com/2010/07/dario-robleto.html]DARIO”>DARIO ROBLETO | /// NO FUN \\\)</p>

<p>Regardless of ones personal opinion on whether most of those folks deserve it, or are good, I think the criteria spells it out; they have to be trained, active, and living as an artist. I suppose the opinions of the boards granting the fellowships are the ones that matter with this, and I cant expect theirs to match mine.</p>

<p>Without digging deeper than I have into the folks listed, I think most of it is total crap.</p>

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<p>hear hear!!
more boooos, thumbs ups? anyone?</p>

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<p>I’ve always loved Vija Clemins. Here, watch her work: [Art21</a> . Vija Celmins . Biography . Documentary Film | PBS](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/art21/artists/celmins/]Art21”>http://www.pbs.org/art21/artists/celmins/)</p>

<p>Her work emanates pure being-ness to me. Do I sound pompous saying that? It appears so bland, so simple but if you watch the video, look at the patience, dedication and stillness that has gone into the work. </p>

<p>Here is Judy Pfaff:[Art21</a> . Judy Pfaff . Biography . Documentary Film | PBS](<a href=“http://www.pbs.org/art21/artists/pfaff/]Art21”>http://www.pbs.org/art21/artists/pfaff/)</p>

<p>Art21 is the best!</p>

<p>And I have to say I’m kind of envious of that Mud Man…that’s how I feel like existing sometimes. Just wandering as a piece of art.</p>

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<p>Ok- I really liked Dario and Diana. About Dario- I am a sucker for found object/outsider kind of stuff. It moves me. Some of it is the compulsion of it. Some of it is the coherent connecting vision out of chaos. </p>

<p>About Diana- cool historically/ethnical referential. I also like women who make big sculptures and arent afraid to weld. </p>

<p>After spending years talking to my kid about art I realized the “But I could have done that” argument just doesnt hold. I wasnt compelled to do it, and even the simple stuff often has compositional technique that I just dont get. He did this wonderful exercise with me once where he showed me a Mondrian painting and then we took turns covering individual lines and it viscerally changed the way we felt about the painting, and the way we felt.</p>

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<p>So it was in Artnews magazine 2009 January issue, which I can not locate and the article is not linked online archive.
If I remember correctly, she commented in there about technical issues of welding, fabrication for big pieces that she wished she could improve more, to know what’s doable and what’s not. It is not pushed hard within high mighty art education because they’d usually outsource it. But mastering and being can do herself would make world of difference, or something like that. Maybe I am making this up… time to clean the apartment. I will update when I find the issue.
and she started upside down thing by accident, her family history, etc. sure intriguing, switters, love.</p>