<p>Soccer Guy. You are really annoying.</p>
<p>^^ I second that emotion</p>
<p>yeah he’s ANNOYING to YOU…</p>
<p>YOU = teh obamaniacs</p>
<p>I’m sure you both find me annoying - I remind you that your messiah is falling in polls, and list a perfect example of him still cheating, so of course that’s your only response.</p>
<p>Soccer guy, this is politics. Everyone cheats.</p>
<p>HAH! ^ Literally made me lol!</p>
<p>09’ cornellian if that counts, and def. voting Obama</p>
<p>McCain needs to move to Boca</p>
<p>and I am not an Obama maniac, I actually was a very strong supporter of clinton. I even campaigned for her by calling people in the midwest (that was an interesting experience!)</p>
<p>I will not let my spite towards Obama stop me from voting for him. Over my dead body will I vote for a Republican at this point in time.
Any true liberal would do this</p>
<p>U are obviously either blind to the overall averages or just picking a couple examples of McCain winning b/c Obama is doing well in many many states and has a great chance of winning. </p>
<p>Here’s a BREAKING story: [Hillary</a> Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama]Hillary”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama) </p>
<p>Clinton role-call at the convention…but not why you may think. A real shocker headline.</p>
<p>U are obviously either ignoring the overall averages or just picking a couple examples of McCain winning b/c Obama is doing well in many many states and has a great chance of winning…altho I will admit it’s getting closer. But that’s no suprise since I heard that Obama is saving his money to attack McCain even tho McCain is already attacking him b/c I guess it’s traditional for republican pres candidates to do major attacks right b4 the election and as you can tell he hasn’t really been launching attacks yet so maybe he is saving his punches.</p>
<p>The offshore thing is ridiculous too btw. It won’t start for 10 years and will only change 1% of our fuel. It is hardly worth it and is only a political point (which shows you the type of person McCain is b/c he originially staunchly opposed it). It’s stupid b/c tons of polls show Americans want to conserve and save the planet but also want offshore drilling…we don’t know how to sacrifice. It just shows that high gas prices have advantages…1) People use less and buy better cars 2) There is a bunch more R & D happening 3) [Random] More jobs could be brought to the US that used to be sent to, say, China b/c who wants to pay for a ship to come across the ocean from China when the products could be made here?</p>
<p>Here’s a BREAKING story: [Hillary</a> Clinton’s name to be placed in nomination - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama]Hillary”>http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/ap_on_el_pr/clinton_obama) </p>
<p>Clinton role-call at the convention…but not why you may think. A real shocker headline. It’s almost like she’s splashing cold water onto the face of PUMA and saying WAKE UP and smell the roses…its a Dem vs. Repub and what you are doing is harmful to the hope of Clinton’s party.</p>
<p>And I would just like to thro in that Obama may be creating many younger dems-for-life in our generation since youths overwhelmingly love Obama whereas there was an anti-Clinton youth movement (ex a million ppl against Clinton on facebook whereas she only had like 200,000 supporters). Those people were largely stupid and didn’t kno much about politics (from personal experience with talking to many of these ppl), but in reality each person gets a vote and Obama may be helping blossom a new generation of Democrats.</p>
<p>Oops sorry for that post above the last one…I meant to delete that lol. I also just wanna mention (since I have to post again) Nevada is within the margin of error…meaning Obama could be tied or winning for all we know. Obama is also shown winning once in virginia in one poll and tied in another. It’s crazy how the swing states have changed from last election…sooo many more are in play and very strange ones at that. It’s going to be a very interesting race.</p>
<p>Keep watching the house races too…a poll just came out on Bobby Bright who I mentioned before. He’s in AL-02 and it’s becoming quite a battleground. A Capital Survey poll puts Montgomery Mayor Bobby Bright (D) 10 points ahead of Jay Love, minority whip in the state house…even tho the district is R+13. Love is the sort of Republican who normally does well in Alabama: very conservative, deeply religious, strongly against abortion, etc. Bright is a typical Blue Dog Democrat–almost as conservative as Love on the hot-button social issues but populist on economic issues. I’m pullin for these Blue Dogs</p>
<p>“Obama may be helping blossom a new generation of Democrats.”</p>
<p>Yes - the type that slash the tires of people who don’t support their candidate, and think misogyny is okay as they start groups such as C.U.N.T.</p>
<p>GREAT generation of Democrats Obama has created for us. We should all thank him.</p>
<p>Also…I’m not picking random polls, I have yet to see a single poll this week showing Obama go up:</p>
<p>"The presidential polls have been more or less stable for several weeks now. With Barack Obama in Hawaii and most of the country focused on the Olympics, you’d probably expect them to stay that way until someone holds a convention or names a vice president. However, three new polls released today show significant movement toward John McCain.</p>
<p>In Washington, SurveyUSA has John McCain trailing by 7 points. This hardly moves Washington into competitive territory, however, SurveyUSA had polled Washington no fewer than nine times since Super Tuesday, and had shown Obama ahead an average of 13.4 points, including 16 points in a survey released in mid-July.</p>
<p>A similar pattern manifests itself in Minnesota, where Rasmussen has Barack Obama’s lead eroding to 4 points; Obama had held a 13-point lead last month. And in the critical swing state of Colorado, Rasmussen has John McCain edging into a 1-point lead; last month, it had been Obama by 3.</p>
<p>Colorado, Minnesota and Washington are quite similar to one another demographically. There are no overwhelmingly strong hints about what’s going in from the cross-tabular results, but it appears that McCain has gained ground with independents (as is almost always the case when the polls move) and also that some Republican voters are moving from undecided to McCain.</p>
<p>Still, it’s a little bit perplexing to see movement like this without any obvious proximate cause. As usual, we are simply going to have to wait for more data to find out whether it means anything."</p>
<p>[FiveThirtyEight.com:</a> Electoral Projections Done Right](<a href=“http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/]FiveThirtyEight.com:”>http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/)</p>
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<p>Once again Obama is moving down, McCain is moving up.</p>
<p>Soccer_Guy -
Before you idealize Hillary too much and turn Obama into the antichrist, remember how many times she blatantly lied for political expediency - Bosnia, for example.</p>
<p>One of the reasons people did not vote for her was because they did not feel they could trust her. They felt she would say and do whatever she had to to get elected, and she did on many occasions. </p>
<p>I still think you should bury the hatchet and give Obama a chance. Even if he’s not the best, you can be sure McCain’s going to do far worse.</p>
<p>Everything Hillary did was blown out of proportion by the biased media. Obama has lied WAY more than Hillary, but the media covers for him. I, for one, don’t think her lying about Bosnia makes her any less capable of a leader. Just as I never thought the Rev. Wright stuff should affect Obama. Certain things, in my opinion, just don’t make a difference on whether or not someone can lead.</p>
<p>Soccerguy, hopefully you get an education at Cornell and grow up while your at it. To be an HRC supporter and not vote Dem in the next election shows us that you are the one that has adopted a “cult-of-personality” around your dear HRC.
C U N T was started by a republican hack named Roger Stone- nothing to do Obama.<br>
Calling all supporters of the Dem nominee Obamaniacs is disrespectful and a loaded Republican talking point.
McCain is the one that has been disrespectful and misogynist- his comment calling his wife “a trollop…and C***” is pathetic. His opposition to abortion rights should be enough for anyone who supported HRC to support Obama.
A word of advice- NEVER fall for a politician- they are what they are and where they are because they can sell themselves. Don’t buy them, buy the ideas and fight for the ideas, it’s the ideas that effect your life and people everywhere.
BTW, HRC has no prayer of ever getting the nomination- her supporters like you have alienated half the party regulars that bother to vote in primaries.</p>
<p>^ Here we go again - another Obama supporter that resorts to PERSONAL insults when someone attacks his messiah.</p>
<p>And as I’ve mentioned before - I am so SICK of this “fall in line” crap. Just because I supported Hillary DOES NOT MEAN I’M A DEMOCRAT! I don’t have to vote for the freakin Democrat Nominee automatically. </p>
<p>BTW, Yeah…all those old ladies and working class democrats have done SO much damage to the party, we’ve alienated those party regulars: young people and african americans. Yup…those are the party regulars, they never miss a vote do they? And geeze…those CRAZY Hillary supporters have slashed tires and sent death threats to all who oppose their candidate…oh nope…that’s Obama’s people.</p>
<p>^Obama supporters sent death threats and slashed tires? I never heard anything like that. There was an article by the AP about Hillary suporters in Florida who vandalized cars a few weeks ago. <a href=“http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igIDk0MSVXo0csTjoHvQ0SrvuTvQD91JOT2O0[/url]”>http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5igIDk0MSVXo0csTjoHvQ0SrvuTvQD91JOT2O0</a></p>
<p>Obama isn’t alienating women. He hasn’t said or done anything overtly sexist. All he did was get more votes than Hillary. I don’t see anything wrong with that. Obama is expanding the party base and getting out the vote of people who usually don’t vote. Isn’t that a good thing or should parties be about bringing out a small base over expanding their influence over more demographics?</p>
<p>Expanding influence over what demographics, exactly?</p>
<p>Blacks
Liberals
Young People</p>
<p>Last time I checked…all of these demographics were reliably Democratic. Yes, he may bring more of them out to VOTE this time around, but that doesn’t mean they’ll do it again during the next election. He’s not taking any Republican bases away.</p>
<p>Hillary had a large following with Catholics, other Christians, women, and hispanics. All of these voters ARE swing voters. They can go either way, and Hillary was stealing them from the republicans. That, to me, is more beneficial than bringing out people that already vote democrat. If Hillary were the nominee, there’d hardly even be a general election: Ohio, Florida, West Virginia, Kentucky, Arkansas. Those are states Hillary would have won, that Obama isn’t. McCain would be blown out of the water.</p>
<p>Now - I’m not going to argue about who won more votes. If Michigan and Florida were counted fairly, Hillary would have more votes. If the DNC hadn’t told Florida voters their vote didn’t count, there would have been a MUCH larger turnout, and if Hillary had won by the same margin, she would have net 3 times as much popular vote. </p>
<p>However, none of that matters now: cheating or not, Obama is the Democratic Nominee. I know it’s over for Hillary this year. I’m simply saying I won’t vote for Obama, and that’s that.</p>
<p>^Cheating? Hillary supported not counting MI and FL back when she thought she was going to win without them.</p>
<p>Did I say that was part of the cheating? No. And I said, quite simply, I’m not going to argue about who should win anymore: Obama has been selected, and that’s all there is too it.</p>
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<p>That’s actually not true. In fact, the opposite is true.</p>
<p>obamaniacs is an accurate way to describe the pop star phenomenon that is obama…it seems to have died down a bit…now that he’s facing a classier rival…</p>