The radio reported that the people flown into March AFB in Riverside will be quarantined there for 14 days.
You canāt cure idiots:
Then thereās this gem at the end of the above linked article.
Darwin plays the long game. And usually wins.
WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the ācontinued increase in cases and the evidence of human-to-human transmission outside of China are, of course, most deeply disturbing.ā The illness produces a range of symptoms with about 20% of the patients becoming severely ill, including pneumonia and respiratory failure, he said.
āAlthough the numbers outside China are still relatively small, they hold the potential for a much larger outbreak,ā Tedros said.
Interesting because Iāve read many media reports about the flight and the switch to March AFB and there is no info forthcoming on a quarantine. Just āunder observationā. It seems like the government is trying to be intentionally vague relative to other countriesā governments.
Iām in a quandary as my wife and I have purchased our tickets to fly Asiana to South Korea out of LAX in mid April. While there we had planned on a likely side trip to Vietnam. We didnāt purchase a travel insurance and the tickets are non-refundable. South Korea is one of popular destinations for many Chinese tourists, and I fear itās just a matter of time that confirmed cases of CV will be made known, if hasnāt already.
Itās a bit too early to make our decision to cancel the trip, but things donāt look good to be on a 12-hour flight one way. Just read up on possible ways that one can contract CV inside a plane. Hopefully, by then, the plane is half empty.
Lufthansa and British Airways have cancelled all flights in and out of China.
I read somewhere that the plan is to quarantine every passenger for a minimum of 3 days, but some passengers could be quarantined for as much as 14 days. I canāt find the link right nowā¦
https://www.airforcemag.com/march-arb-to-house-us-evacuees-from-china-for-coronavirus-quarantine/
The word quarantine is used and housing will be provided. No statement on the length of the quarantine. The article says that no military personnel will be in contact with the new arrivals.
There have been confirmed cases in both South Korea and Vietnam but I wouldnāt let that stop you necessarily.
Agree with you that it is early to decide. Take a wait and see approach as the weeks unfold. Since your ticket is non-refundable, you can play the waiting game.
3 days would seem silly. Either quarantine them for 2 weeks or donāt. 3 days isnāt going to tell them much, will it? Perhaps that is the time needed to test them?
Makes no financial sense to fly empty planes. Might as well cancel them all.
ā3 days would seem silly. Either quarantine them for 2 weeks or donāt. 3 days isnāt going to tell them much, will it? Perhaps that is the time needed to test them?ā
Let me guess. 3 days would be sufficient to run a viral load test.
@BunsenBurner, I was at a large event in Mexico last week and someone had two bottles of Corona at once. He joked it was protection against the Coronavirus, and he may have been right - it prevented anyone from trying to shake his hand! ?
An anecdote: my husband is in the international student travel field. Business is way down, and interest in Asia destinations non-existent in the last week. Wonder whyā¦
Here is the Lancet article describing a cohort of the initial cases:
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext
āAs of Jan 22, 2020, 28 (68%) of 41 patients have been discharged and six (15%) patients have died. Fitness for discharge was based on abatement of fever for at least 10 days, with improvement of chest radiographic evidence and viral clearance in respiratory samples from upper respiratory tract.ā
Thatās a real high rate on the initial cohort. Iām sure at least part of that was that the patients were in bad shape by the time they presented themselves at a medical facility if people didnāt know to be on the lookout for something.
This article also states the talk of the 3 day quarantine.
āUpon arrival in California, all passengers will be quarantined for at least three days and monitored by the CDC, per authorities. Those who show signs of the illness and need to be tested could be held for as many as 14 days.ā
āSeats on the charter flight were open to American citizens, with an alert sent Sunday notifying those in China and registered with the U.S. mission. American citizens were required to pay for their seat, and capacity was limited, with priority given to those most at risk of infection, per the spokespersonā¦ The majority of the 200 seats on board the flight went to private citizens, with less than a quarter needed for U.S. personnel and their families.ā
Iāve read accounts of US citizens in Wuhan giving up their offered seats because of spouses who are not American and werenāt offered a seat. The plane also had, from reports, 240 seats but only filled 200-201.
From a different article:
āAmong 206 Japanese nationals who returned home Wednesday, 12 were hospitalised for tests after they reported they felt unwell or showed flu-like symptoms.ā
āThatās a real high rate on the initial cohort. Iām sure at least part of that was that the patients were in bad shape by the time they presented themselves at a medical facility if people didnāt know to be on the lookout for something.ā
My point precisely. Initial cases usually present more dire picture than what would happen in the population at large.
I assume all the evacuees from the Wuhan flight that landed at March AFB will be fully tested for the virus (not just checking for symptoms). As of now, all tests have to be carried out at CDC labs. The minimum turnaround time may be 3 days.
āMy point precisely. Initial cases usually present more dire picture than what would happen in the population at large.ā
Which seems to be more in the 2-3% range right now, not 15%. And likely lower in areas where a large presentation of patients isnāt overwhelming the healthcare system, which of course is one reason for desiring to stem the spread of the virus.