Re: Israeli teenagers: Whaaaaaat? Well that seems like a bad idea. Won’t they potentially just bring it home to mom and dad?
I think the short answer is to seek medical advice if you think you might have been exposed, per the CDC recommendation. But that still doesn’t necessarily mean that you get tested for coronavirus. Perhaps a medic (doctor, PA, RN) just listens to your breathing thru a stethoscope. (This is an Upper Respiratory virus, so lungs gets filled making breathing difficult.) Perhaps your insurance has tele-med and you call in and they advise you to wait…
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/downloads/COVID19-symptoms.pdf
@Cardinal Fang I think that’s part of the problem. Different medical websites say different symptoms. CDC says fever, cough, shortness of breath. WHO says runny nose, sore throat, dry cough (although 13 percent had a wet cough rather than dry), fever, difficulty breathing (severe cases). And according to WHO 13percent get a headache. Since you can have some symptoms and not others, and since all symptoms are very common, it’s really hard to tell what you have without being tested.
"Portugal’s president, Marcelo Rebelo de Sousa, has cancelled his diary events for the next two weeks and will remain in quarantine at his residence after a case of the coronavirus was detected at a school whose students visited the presidential palace last Tuesday.
A statement posted on the president’s website on Sunday said the decision had been taken as a precaution even though neither the infected student nor their class were among those who visited the Belém palace.
“Having listened to health authorities, the president, who is not showing any symptoms of the virus, has decided to cancel all public engagements,” the statement added.
It said that while the president would continue to work from his private residence, he had decided to lead by example so as to underline the need for reinforced precautions during the outbreak." (Guardian)
This virus is hitting older males the most. World is mostly ruled by older males…
"A top US public health official said on Sunday signs of coronavirus spreading through communities were “not encouraging” and warned that Americans may need to think carefully about attending large gatherings if it continues.
“I think we’re getting a better sense (of the scope of the outbreak) as the days go by,” Anthony Fauci, the head of the infectious diseases unit at the National Institutes of Health, said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”
“Unfortunately, that better sense is not encouraging because we’re seeing community spread,” he said.
He encouraged those most at risk from coronavirus to limit travel.
“If you’re a person with an underlying condition and you are particularly an elderly person with an underlying condition you need to think twice about getting on a plane, on a long trip, and not only think twice, just don’t get on a cruise ship,” Fauci said on “Meet the Press.”
Fauci said that in addition to efforts to try to contain the spread of the virus, it was important to start thinking about how to mitigate the impact as more and more Americans fall ill.
“They call it ‘social distancing,’ but it’s common sense stuff,” he said. “You don’t want to go to a massive gathering, particularly if you are a vulnerable individual.” " (Telegraph)
@romanigypsyeyes please keep us posted. Crossing fingers you and H are okay.
I’ve posted before but here it is again - symptoms from Wuhan patient studies. Personally, I’d go with that info.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/
“Well, I have a stuffy nose with a fever and a slight cough”
This thread is moving a bit faster than I can keep up. However, this caught my eye…
If people who have mild symptoms but have the coronavirus are walking around in our society, there is not much that the government can do to stop the spread. We, normal human beings, have to stop the spread of the coronavirus.
There are at least three reasons why anyone who has a fever or a slight cough should stay home and isolate themselves.
One issue is that you might have the coronavirus. If you do, then you do not want to spread it to other people. The entire world depends upon people with the coronavirus self-isolating and staying home (unless they are sick enough to be hospitalized).
Another issue is that if you have the normal flu, then you do not want to also catch the coronavirus. Having the flu does not make you immune to the coronavirus. You do not want to get both at the same time.
Also, we know that the flu is active in the US and elsewhere right now. If you have the coronavirus, then this does not keep you from also catching the flu. Again, you do not want to get both at the same time.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/usmap.htm
The coronavirus is widespread almost worldwide outside of North America. Neither the US nor Canada will be able to stop it from entering our borders – there are too many travelers still moving around the world with few or no symptoms.
We as normal human beings have to be very careful right now. Our daily behavior is key to minimizing the spread of this virus.
Malaysia imposes blanket ban on cruise ships after Costa Fortuna turned away
In recent days, both Malaysia and Thailand barred the Costa Fortuna cruise ship – carrying about 2,000 people, including dozens of Italians – from docking
Local Penang politician told media that Costa Fortuna would now chart a course for neighbouring Singapore
"Malaysia has issued a prohibition on all cruise ships disembarking at local ports due to rising coronavirus disease cases, according to local media reports… ordered by the Health and Transport ministries, and effective immediately.
PKA general manager Capt K. Subramaniam said the temporary measure was necessary to ensure the right resources were kept at key public health services facilities to handle emergencies and other preventive measures.
Penang Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow told The Star he was aware of the directive from the Transport Ministry.
“Although it could affect the tourism industry, it’s too big a risk,” he said.
The Costa Fortuna was first turned away from the popular Thai holiday island of Phuket on Friday, despite there being no suspected virus cases aboard, according to its operator. Thai authorities had imposed restrictions “on Italians that have transited in Italy in the last 14 days”, Costa Cruises said on Twitter. The ship was carrying 64 Italians, according to Malaysian officials. "
Good point about resources. Lots of resources being spent on Grand Princess (as they should be under the circumstances) but it draws resources and focus off other Covid-19 matters in the US.
At urgent care now. It’s packed! I’m hoping if he tests positive I can get a tamiflu script called in.
I’m supposed to have a NST tomorrow morning and hospital tour on Tuesday. Blech.
On the bright side, I’m 34 weeks tomorrow and the health outcomes if (knock on wood) anything happens and I have to delivery early are basically the same as if I was full term.
On a lighter note, Wuhan kids under quarantine spammed their homework app with 1 stars reviews until it was removed from the app store.
^^Why aren’t the cruises stopped everywhere? If that’s not putting profits before public health, what is?
Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures, but don’t bank on summer killing it off, studies say
Pathogen appears to spread fastest at 8.72 degrees Celsius, so countries in colder climes should ‘adopt the strictest control measures’, according to researchers from Sun Yat-sen University in Guangdong province
But head of WHO’s health emergencies programme says it is ‘a false hope’ to think Covid-19 will just disappear like the flu
Article with different views:
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074131/coronavirus-highly-sensitive-high-temperatures-dont-bank-summer
Another article on lockdowns
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074151/are-china-style-lockdowns-answer-containing-coronavirus
My bet is that no later than the end of March, and likely a lot sooner, we will see governments banning cruises throughout the world. Frankly, I’m shocked that people are still walking onto cruise ships at this point. I think there is a widespread viewpoint that if you make any changes at all to your plans or your lifestyle, you are overreacting and panicking. Like Coachella and Stagecoach not being cancelled yet.
I wonder how long that viewpoint will last.
@bluebayou thank you for your very reasonable advice. I had already called into the local doctors office and got palmed off to the County Department of Health, which palmed me off to the State. I’ll call back on Monday because I’ve been talking to the after hours folks. Again, I’m really not that worried about myself. I am much more concerned about my ability to infect others, especially my parents. I’m also concerned whether corona might have a period of contagiousness after you feel better, given that that some of the people from the cruise ships tested negative twice, and then were positive for the third test. I would have wanted to take the test in order to determine just how much more careful I’d have to be in dealing with others.
** 12 new cases of coronavirus confirmed in Washington **
From CNN
The Seattle and King County Health Department has reported 12 new novel coronavirus cases, two of which are fatalities.
This brings the Washington state total to 115 cases, including 18 deaths. There are now 83 cases in King County and 17 deaths reported.
The two new deaths reported were both patients of Life Care Center.
“A woman in her 80s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at EvergreenHealth,” died on 3/6/20, according to a release from the county health department.
The second is “a man in his 90s, a Life Care Center resident, was hospitalized at Harborview Medical Center,” and died 3/5/20," the release said.
Life Care Center is now associated with 16 of the deaths in the state.
Washington state has not yet updated their coronavirus cases for Sunday. " (CNN)
SAUDI ARABIA - 4 new cases today for a total of 11.
Saudi Arabia is suspending public schools, private schools and universities starting on Monday, according to the Saudi Press Agency (SPA), the Kingdom’s official news agency.
FRANCE - 117 new cases totaling 1,126 cases, 3 new deaths totaling 19.
France bans gatherings of more than 1,000 people. France’s health minister is tightening the number from the previous ban on groups of more than 5,000. The new decree will also make remote medical consultations easier to access.
A Paris police station is in lockdown, with a detainee suspected of having coronavirus. A police officer in the town of Briançon, in the Alps, and other members of staff have tested positive.
Meanwhile the French finance minister has declared a state of economic emergency because of the coronavirus and the government is working on plans to help businesses, with financial support for those worst affected. Ministers are to meet CEOs tomorrow to assess the impact in different sectors.
The virus has reached every region of France and three overseas territories in the Caribbean and South America.
French hospitals are preparing emergency measures and may call in retired doctors and medical students to help treat patients if the number of cases continues to escalate. (Guardian)
France orders more school closures
France has ordered all schools in the Corsican city of Ajaccio to close for two weeks. Schools in Oise, north of Paris, and Haut-Rhin on the German border had already been instructed to close. (Telegraph)
** 7th Case in Illinois **
Illinois now reports 7 coronavirus cases
CNN
A Chicago man has been identified as Illinois’s seventh case of novel coronavirus, according to Dr. Allison Arwady, Chicago Department of Public Health commissioner.
Arwady says the man had no contact with anyone identified as having coronavirus and his travel history isn’t suspected as a contributing factor. The man is in his 60s and has been hospitalized in serious condition.
NETHERLANDS - 77 new cases totaling 265. 2 new deaths totaling 3 - two men, aged 82 and 86. The two had previous medical problems before they were infected with the virus. Health authorities said 131 of these patients had recently been to Italy.
GERMANY - 240 new cases totaling 1,040 cases. 67 of the new cases are in Bavaria.
Health minister Jens Spahn’s recommended that events drawing more than 1,000 participants, including football matches, conferences, trade fairs and concerts, should be cancelled. As Germany has a federal system, Spahn does not have the power to call off events, but his advice is likely to be taken seriously and has been welcomed by many who had complained the government’s response to the virus has so far been too laid back. Announcing his recommendation on Sunday following an emergency government meeting, Spahn said he was depending on each individual to make sensible decisions.
“I encourage each and every individual to weigh up what’s important to you in your own daily life, which you really cannot do without in the next two to three months, whether it’s visiting a club, a birthday party with friends or an association meeting,” he added.
UK - 64 new cases, total rises to 273. Biggest one day increase. UK health officials have tested just over 23,500 people in the country
SPAIN - 148 new cases totaling 673. 7 new deaths totaling 17.
Deaths: 3 new deaths (aged 73, 77, and 78 years old) have been reported by the Community of Madrid. 3 woman died In Euskadi (aged 87, 88, and 92 years old, all with pre-existing conditions) and the Aragonese Government has reported the death of an 85-year-old man with previous pathologies "
EGYPT - 1 new case totaling 48 official cases. 1st death- a German national, male, who was 60-years-old and that he traveled from Luxor to the beachside, resort town of Hurghada, Egypt. Once he arrived in Hurghada, he showed symptoms of a high temperature and went to the hospital to receive medical care on the evening of his arrival, March 6. He tested positive for the coronavirus and was placed later in the ICU due to respiratory failure and died Sunday. The German citizen was in Egypt for seven days.
"A group of British travellers quarantined on the Grand Princess cruise ship said they have no idea when they will be able to return to the UK.
Although the ship is due to dock in Oakland, California, on Monday, only passengers requiring treatment and state residents will be allowed to disembark. It is not known what will happen to passengers from other countries.
Justine Griffin, of Leicestershire, was on board with her husband Dave and friends Jan and Allen Duffin, and Sharon and Steve Lane, when it was placed into quarantine. She told PA news agency: “We won’t be getting off tomorrow as we are at the bottom of the list. First the sick then Californians, then any other Americans.
“They have no plans for international passengers yet - rumours going round about Texas but nothing concrete yet.”
The couple, who renewed their vows on board for their 25th wedding anniversary, have not been tested for coronavirus but believe they will have to enter quarantine in the UK for two weeks when they return home. " (Guardian)
Qatar bans arrivals from 14 countries over coronavirus fears
CAIRO (Reuters) - Qatar has temporarily barred travelers from 14 countries from March 9 as a precaution against the rapidly spreading coronavirus, the government announced on Sunday.
The ban covers China, Egypt, India, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Bangladesh, Nepal, Pakistan, Philippines, South Korea, Sri Lanka, Syria and Thailand.
Qatar Airways had already suspended flights to and from Italy.
Qatar reported three more cases of the virus on Sunday, bringing the total there to 15.
The total number of coronavirus cases in Massachusetts has soared to 28 after 15 new presumptive positive COVID-19 cases were announced by the Massachusetts Department of Public Health.
State health officials said all of the 15 new cases announced Sunday had a direct connection to the Biogen employee conference in late February.
The presumptive positive cases include five from Suffolk County ranging in age from 30s to 60s; five from Middlesex County ranging in age from 40s to 60s; four cases from Norfolk County ranging in age from 40s to 60s; and a female whose age and county of residence are unknown at the time of this release.
Among Sunday’s presumptive positive cases were eight men and seven women. With Sunday’s release, 23 of the presumptive positive cases of COVID-19 identified in Massachusetts are associated with the Biogen employee meeting held in late February. All of Sunday’s presumptive positive cases are isolating at home.
The DPH announced five new presumptive positive COVID-19 cases on Saturday, three of which had a direct connection to Biogen’s employee conference, one with recent international travel and a fifth case for whom there is no current known linkage to the Biogen conference or foreign travel.