Being in places with less burdened health care systems certainly helps on that front.
Looks like a confirmed case in Silicon Valley:
Thank you. I appreciate your updates and information.
I spoke too soon.
Do we know if attending a meeting is the only thing she did? Weird that she infected so many people.
I havenāt seen anything. Does seem like a lot for what would seemingly be limited contact. With viruses, some people are āsuper spreadersā.
Article on US students currently studying abroad in China.
Iād hire that kid!
Maybe this isnāt relevant per se to this discussion, but I just went to CVS to pick up a prescription, and couldnāt get it without using a touchscreen and stylis used by everyone else who has picked up prescriptions there. Itās cold & flue season, so I asked if there was any way to get the medicine without touching these things, and there wasnāt. They did pull out from their hide-away spot, though, some hand sanitizer and let me use it. This seems like such an obvious thing to correct to protect yourself & others. Iām also thinking that for anyone who might have a compromised immune system that they should carry their own stylis.
Folks can carry their own gloves as well and own sanitizer

Maybe this isnāt relevant per se to this discussion, but I just went to CVS to pick up a prescription, and couldnāt get it without using a touchscreen and stylis used by everyone else who has picked up prescriptions there. Itās cold & flue season, so I asked if there was any way to get the medicine without touching these things, and there wasnāt. They did pull out from their hide-away spot, though, some hand sanitizer and let me use it. This seems like such an obvious thing to correct to protect yourself & others. Iām also thinking that for anyone who might have a compromised immune system that they should carry their own stylis.
I would think that anyone who has a compromised immune system probably already carries their own sanitizer or at least knows to ask for some.
Handwashing and keeping the hands off oneās face will go a long way towards avoiding any number of viruses that are out in the world as we speak.
@melvin123 , I was at CVS today picking up a prescription and thought the same thing.
But if you want to really worry about prescriptions, read this article from todayās NY Times: āHow Chaos at Chain Pharmacies Is Putting Patients at Risk,ā
My kidās school welcomed a group of a half-dozen exchange students from China (none from Wuhan) a week ago. We got an email from the dean just yesterday about careful monitoring and no symptoms and all is well and we are confident, blah blah blah.
Today my kid tells me the students are all going home tomorrow, over a week before they were scheduled to depart. I get the feeling there was parental wigging out involved, though I donāt know this for sure. It might have had something to do with the rapidly evolving borders/airlines situations.
I was never so healthy as the year I received chemotherapy. My family was so aware of the danger a common cold posed given my suppressed immune system that everyone washed their hands multiple times a day and even my needle-phobic kid got a flu shot. With all that hand washing plus awareness of not touching my nose or eyes I didnāt have as much as a single cold.

@scout59 ā but the guy ā felt betterā when he returned to work and infected his coworkers. Sounds like screening will be much tougher with folks who have no symptoms able to infect others.
I wouldnāt assume he infected his coworkers after he came back. The woman from China infected him and maybe one other person. A few days later, the man felt sick and stayed home from work for about 3 days. The day after he came back, feeling well, was when the company found out about the first case and tested people, finding the other 3 cases. The man still had a very high viral load, so was clearly infectious. However, unless the test is incredibly sensitive and/or the virus replicates very quickly, the infections that were picked up were transmitted before he got sick, as the testing was done only one day after he came back.
@FourAtShore my experience today proves your point. When the label on the bottle said to take 14 pills twice a day, I figured Iād call my vet to double check. As I assumed, it was 1/4 pill twice a day. At least the mistake was obvious!

What is the CDC doing to warn people who may have had contact with a coronavirus patient? I have heard nothing so far.
For example, the woman who flew into Chicago after visiting Wuhan. Were the other passengers on her flight warned? Were other people she may have come in contact with at work or otherwise warned?
Now her husband has it. Were people at his workplace warned? Etc. etc.
It just seems very odd to me that when a measles patient walks through LAX, the news media comes out with a warning to the effect that āif you were in the Bradley terminal on X date and are not vaccinated be aware of signs of measlesā. They have also reported when the measles carrier has gone to the movies or to Starbucks and so forth.
The spread of measles is much less worrisome because most people are or can be vaccinated.
If someone could explain the ālogicā if there is any, I would like to hear it.
Chickenpox and measles are airborne infections, meaning that the viral particles are so light that they can float in the air for a considerable distance. Measles remains airborne for several hours, so you could catch it without ever coming into close contact with an infected person. This virus is most likely spread by droplets, which are larger, heavier, and only travel 1 or 2 yards. If the government warned everyone who walked through the same terminal as an infected person, they would put hospitals in the position of having to evaluate and isolate thousands of people with flu, just to make sure it wasnāt coronavirus, and the risk at present just isnāt high enough to warrant that. By using finite resources to rule out coronavirus, you do take those resources away from other people who need care. You might think that testing positive for flu would induce medical personnel not to isolate people with a respiratory illness, and you would be wrong ā that exact thing has already happened at my hospital.
In our state, there are two young male students from Wuhan with their two teachers visiting on an exchange at a private school. They have not been allowed much time on campus and no information about where theyāre staying or when and how they will be leaving. Iām sure the visit isnāt at all what anyone expected.
Iāve heard that CVS expects its pharmacists to give 40-60 flu shots/day, in addition to all their other duties. When I visit them late in the day (say 4pm) the pharmacist invariably hasnāt had any breaks nor eaten at all (except to use bathroom)! This is NOT safe working conditions.
Hmmā¦
āA fourth person in Canada has the coronavirus, first testing negative, then positive before recovering quickly as health officials scramble to get a handle on the fast-moving infection.
The female university student in her 20s arrived in Toronto on January 23 from Wuhan, China, the epicentre of the outbreak. Initially asymptomatic, she reported to hospital the next day, where she initially tested negative. A second test at Canadaās National Microbiology Laboratory in Winnipeg, Manitoba, confirmed the case as positive.
āIt is clear that we are learning more and more about the coronavirus each day, and our testing procedures are evolving and getting more and more precise,ā Ontarioās Chief Medical Officer of Health Dr David Williams said in a statement after a news conference in Toronto.ā