Coronavirus in the US

Just checking in from beautiful Kirkland, WA! I no longer frequent this site but stop by once in a while, like I did from the Paradise Fire where my parents lost their house. Destruction seems to be dogging my family lately.

For those who aren’t old-timers (Hi!), my wife is an NP in a family clinic in the area so has been somewhat in the front line of defense for this. She knows many of the people who have been in the news around here. She regularly sends patients to Life Care but did not have any there when this broke out.

First, her clinic has been seeing patients with symptoms of the virus since early February. They have submitted zero samples for testing. Initially it was because there had to be a straight line to Wuhan. Since Feb 29, tests are reserved for people in active respiratory distress. If someone comes in with a fever, they get the advice to “go home until you feel better. Call 911 if you have trouble breathing.”

Since there is no treatment, and the virus is already endemic to the area, testing everyone around here with mild symptoms would quickly overwhelm the system.

On another note, there is a chance the whole Life Care fiasco passed right through my office. One of the guys was sick last month and passed it to another employee who is dating a Life Care nurse.

Bed time for me. Stay healthy all.

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Howdy (almost) neighbor! :slight_smile: Good to hear from you! Stay healthy!!

That isn’t extreme, that is just going to be standard. That happens anyway.

@suzyQ7 Better stated would have been to say there has been rapid and massive societal level attempts to do so. Via a vis flattening the exponential transmission rates over time. Certainly things will spike but I’m not in the 70mm people this wave group. Maybe over a generation as it becomes part of the viral landscape. I say this based on the real life examples I provided in the previous posts and many more. I’ve never seen anything quite like it, frankly but no one knows how it plays out. I’m just not on the doomsday side of the equation.

More like the Dr Drew perspective (not saying he’s a virologist or epidemiologist just a physician and intelligent person imho). We may be hurting ourselves much more, much longer and much deeper with our reactions in the coming months than the virus itself.

That aside. I think there’s lots of positive things happening and brightened spirits and resolve can make things better in the face of adversity. And ultimately triumph.

There needs to be a coordinated effort and leadership- someone needs to have the national stockpile ready - not just 1% of what is needed, for example - and that is lacking big time.

US Health and Human Services warns employees of malware in fake coronavirus map
From CNN

US Health and Human Services employees were warned yesterday of malware in a fake coronavirus mapping website, an HHS employee not authorized to speak on the record told CNN.

“A malicious website pretending to be a live map for coronavirus Covid-19 global cases by Johns Hopkins University is circulating on the Internet waiting for unwitting Internet users to visit the website,” an email to employees read.
The warning came in a department-wide correspondence that detailed the malware as an "information stealing program which can exfiltrate a variety of sense of data,” adding that anyone searching for coronavirus information on the internet could unwittingly click on the fake map.

“Our cybersecurity team is working with numerous stakeholders to ensure this map is taken offline,” the email read.

Late on Wednesday evening, US President Donald Trump announced in an address from the Oval Office that he was introducing a travel ban from Europe – not including the UK or non-Schengen Travel Area states – to the US.

The United States did not coordinate on the sweeping restriction aimed at curbing the spread of the coronavirus with European officials before Trump announced it, a European diplomat told Reuters.

The dollar slid on Thursday, after President Donald Trump disappointed markets with a coronavirus plan light on details, Reuters reports.

The greenback dropped 1% to 103.32 yen, fell as much as 0.6% to $1.1333 against the euro and lost 0.6% to the safe-haven Swiss franc, while stocks plunged.
Trump announced on Wednesday a ban on travellers from 26 European countries entering the United States for a month.

He unveiled economic steps to counter the virus but his address from the Oval Office was light on medical measures beyond assurances that “the virus has no chance against us”.

“The market was looking for more,” said Moh Siong Sim, currency strategist at the Bank of Singapore.

“A travel ban is part of the solution, but the more important parts are still missing. They are really the public health measures: Paid sick leave, free testing, free treatment,” he said.

Futures markets reacted swiftly. They are now pricing in the US Federal Reserve moving the lower end of its benchmark funding band to zero when it meets next week, if not before.

“The deflationary shock that we had assumed would trigger a US entry into the zero-yield world is turning out to be a combo of trade war, oil price war and Covid-19 virus,” J.P. Morgan’s long-term strategists Jan Loeys and Shiny Kundu said in a note.

“(There are) close to even odds now of an official US recession this year.” (Guardian)

Maryland has announced 3 additional cases of coronavirus, bringing the state total to 12.

The three new cases are:

A Montgomery County resident in his 20s who recently traveled to Spain, and is not hospitalized.

A Baltimore County resident in his 60s who worked at the recent American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) conference in Washington, DC, and is not hospitalized.

A Prince George’s County resident in his 60s whose travel history is under investigation, and is currently hospitalized.

Last week, the AIPAC announced that some people may have become exposed to an infected case, including several political leaders at the conference in DC.

Vice President Mike Pence and many lawmakers and aides attended the conference.

“Marylanders should be taking this pandemic very seriously,” said Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan in a news release. “All Marylanders need to understand that there may be significant disruption to your everyday lives for a period of time." (CNN)

Viking Cruise Lines is suspending operations around the world, effective immediately. There will be no new sailings through April 30.

Here’s the link for the Viking suspension.

https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/viking-to-temporarily-suspend-cruise-operations-until-may-1-2020-301022048.html

State of private lab testing in my neck of the woods: Quest can do 10 tests per day. Results in 2 weeks.

Wow—2 weeks?!?!?! That’s sone turnaround time for an infectious condition!

So there is a US travel ban on Schengen countries of Europe, but not South Korea? Does that make sense?

^Nope. Much of the decisions don’t make sense. Want to come to the US? Fly through England, or Canada, or Mexico!

No wonder the numbers in PA are not going up. The PA Dept of health is not testing even when there is a known exposure. Scary stuff.

@romanigypsyeyes. You mentioned not having a pandemic. There was the Hong Kong flu. People can tell the government what they think in the fall.

@“Cardinal Fang”. According to Sanjay Gupta last night on CNN, if someone tests positive for the common flu then it stops there. If no common flu but symptoms then they test for the covad flu. If I understood that correctly

@Knowsstuff Hong kong flu was before the modern globalised economy.

Really the only other disease that fits into that category is HIV but given how HIV is spread vs COVID19, they’re not comparable either.

Lead comment in a NY Times story (edited for brevity):

Thank you so much for this thread. It brought me back to CC – I find it one of the most useful sites on the web right now on this virus.

The Cleveland Clinic has developed a test that shows results in 2 hours.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/cleveland-clinic-e2-80-99s-new-coronavirus-testing-capabilities-will-deliver-results-within-hours/ar-BB114mEA

@deb922 am I missing something? It says 8 hours. Either way, good! This was developed in less than 2 weeks once given permission by the FDA.

2 weeks. Imagine if we had this in January.