Coronavirus in the US

This is insane.

I was told that anyone who wants a test can get one. What happened with that?
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@suzyQ7

The US has banned all foreigners except US citizens and residents traveling to the US from China as of Feb 3. The US has also evacuated almost all US embassy/consulate personnel and their families from China and Hong Kong.

This is the least of the problems, but


I’m worried about college acceptances. We are waiting on 3 school and expect at least 1 large merit award. The college usually releases by 3/15. Would they have enough time to claw back merit if they think the economy is tanking for next year? Hopefully not.

And where are the 1.5 million, 1 million, 4 million tests (take your pick because it all turned out to be lies) we were promised would be ready LAST week?

^^@doschicos: I understand the position Mwfan1921 has expressed, and offered to do the same for my daughter, who is at a tournament outside of the state wherein she attends college.

I offered to help (in person) to ease her (potential) levels of stress and any resultant bewilderment at being among the last of students to return to campus to collect her things, or among the last to secure a rental space she can actually get her belongings to. (Hmm
new idea
gotta run.)

@suzyQ7 poor guy is the one I originally got sick from and today was really draining on him too. He got home and immediately fell asleep. He’s taking off at least tomorrow. We can take the financial hit, but the kids can’t risk exposure. I couldn’t live with myself if he went to work and one of his kids got very sick, or worse.

That’s what I thought too but apparently nope. In theory everyone can but there are so few tests that they’re going by priority. And priority apparently means proven contact with travelers
 or something.

It’s also worth noting again that because of the nature of Mr R’s work (in-their home and in-clinic work with children), he comes into very close contact with a lot of people and he honestly doesn’t know whether or not their parents traveled. And since he was sick before me,


All of our phd admit visit days were canceled.

As I said a lot of pages ago, we have NO previous models to know how this is going to play out. We’ve never had a true global pandemic in the modern globalized world. Though there are definitely better practices than others and we’re clearly not doing one of the “better” paths.

Chatted with son earlier about everything closing down in Seattle. He said the police put out a notice asking people not to call 911 if they see a gathering over 250 people LOL.

Most of the museums are closed and they’re going to take a huge financial hit, as will the performing arts venues. Also the cruise season is likely to be very delayed, if it even ever starts. Restaurants and other businesses are already shutting down and laying off people. Another big hit will be to charities that hold fund raising events.

The governor on down have done a stellar effort on containment. I’m hoping when Bezos and Gates start sending out test kits, they start with Amazon employees.

Yes, it will be tough times for a lot of businesses and people. Life is far from normal right now and we should all mentally prepare for it to get worse. Help family and friends when you can, and other people in your community in tougher circumstances than you. Help yourself as well buy being prepared by having enough food in the house for a few weeks - no need to horde, just reasonable amounts.

I’m already sick of Coronavirus and it hasn’t even really started.

@romanigypsyeyes Praying for you and your family. Get your rest and fluids.

Actually, I think the quote from Atlanta was: anyone who NEEDS a test can get one.

Nope. That’s NOT what was said. Might not be from Atlanta but it was from the president. Here’s one instance and I’m sure I could find others. Good thing about the internet is it keeps historical record.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/trump-anybody-who-wants-a-test-gets-a-test-amid-shortage-for-coronavirus.html

3/6/20
President Donald Trump on Friday told reporters at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta that “anybody who wants a test gets a test.”

In any case, if Rom’s doctor was arguing with the CDC, Rom’s doctor thinks Rom needs the test. The only reason she’s not getting it is she doesn’t have known contact with an infected person. That’s insane.

Someone three miles from me, who also had not had known contact with a person with covid19, died of covid19 last Monday. People who don’t have known contact keep getting diagnosed.

First confirmed case in the Pacific Islands

French Polynesia has announced the first case of Covid-19 in Tahiti, the first confirmed case of the coronavirus across the Pacific Islands.

President Edouard Fritch, said that French Polynesian politician Maina Sage had been confirmed with the virus after returning from Paris on 7 March. Sage is resting at home in self-isolation in Papeete.

During her time in Paris, Sage served on a National Assembly commission with France’s culture minister Franck Riester, who has also been confined in France after contracting Covid-19.

Announcing the first confirmed case of the coronavirus in Tahiti, President Fritch reassured people about government plans for monitoring, testing and isolation. He stated, however: “I invite the population to avoid travel outside the country.” (Guardian)

California prisons are suspending visits because of the coronavirus

Prisons in California are suspending visiting due to the coronavirus, the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) announced on its website today.

“Normal visiting will be canceled statewide until further notice,” the department said. This includes non-contact visits, which occur with a glass partition between the inmate and their visitors.

“Family visits will be held as scheduled,” they added. These visits occur in private, apartment-like facilities on prison grounds, according to the CDCR.

“CDCR values visitation as an essential part of rehabilitation, but at this time the Department must make difficult decisions in order to protect the health and wellness of all who live in, work in, and visit state prisons,” the statement said. (CNN)

Of course it will get worse. We only have a small amount of cases compared to population. However it’s not Armageddon.

Does anyone think that anyone is doing anything right?

There is a lot of really great public health work being done.

There’s a lot of great research moving quickly.

Big decisions being made. Wh ether you like the President and the team or not. China and European travel bans. Economic programs being proposed and funding quickly approved. Positive feedback from California gov and others. Fast tracking clinical trials.

We really need to take a breath.

I’d rather rally and spend time trying to find solutions. It’s very easy to armchair quarterback these matters.

In fact this whole thing is being seen as a potential important time for our futures and many good things are happening at lightening speed. At least according to the noted Dr. F Alvarez’ s viewpoint

Many times the first go through with something of this magnitude shows is the kinks in the system and leads to longer term benefits and planning. If there’s a more virulent strain in the future.

Which is another reason why the Oval Office speech tonight did not hit the mark IMO - long on talk of a “foreign virus” and finger pointing, short on action steps to flatten the curve here in the US where it is spreading in communities.

This is not all about the federal government response. These large scale issues are always a public and private partnership. State and feds. Not for profits. University’s and big pharmaceutical companies. Manufacturers. It’s integrated.

I think we’ve become too dependent on the federal gov to swoop in and save us.

We are flattening the curve. Big time. Nearly all universities are emptying out. Companies are stopping unnecessary travel and visitation. People are tell commuting. Thousands are deciding to self quarantine. Sporting events played to empty stadiums. NBA cancelling seasons. Social distancing. Washing hands and purell stations popping up everywhere. Quarantines in clusters and testing levels will explode in the coming week.

Try to get a zoning change approved. This has been massive and fast response in the real world of things.

Literally weeks ago this was just starting to brew.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/11/trump-coronavirus-europe-travel-suspended

Tom Douglas is shutting several of his restaurants. :frowning:

It’s been over 2 months. There is NO excuse.

You clearly don’t work in public health. In an outbreak like this, hours and days are critical. Weeks? MONTHS? You’ve already lost the battle. The best you can do is mitigate deaths as much as possible.

And if my doctor is arguing with the federal government to try and get me a test, then the federal government is being a hinderance instead of “swooping in to save us”

A lighter, human interest angle

Japanese store puts a curse on its toilet rolls to prevent thefts
By CNN

Panic buying has been rife amid the global spread of the coronavirus, with shoppers stockpiling goods like toilet paper, hand sanitizer and canned food.

In Japan, those who couldn’t buy toilet paper have resorted to pilfering supplies from public restrooms.

But one Japanese store has cursed its toilet rolls to prevent thefts.

Mink Itachibe, who works at a convenience store in Niigata prefecture, noticed people stealing between three to five rolls of toilet paper each day. She sketched an image that shows three eyes and several kanji characters and stuck it up in front of the toilet rolls.

Some store owners use images of eyes to give the impression that they are watching out for potential thieves, Itachibe told CNN. The kanji below imply that if someone takes the toilet paper from the store, a hungry monster will hunt them down and gobble them up.

“I did it as a joke, but it seems to have worked,” Itachibe told CNN. “As people were stealing toilet paper, I wanted this to shock them and think they might get hexed. People can be quite superstitious in Japan.” Itachibe has reported no thefts of toilet paper from her store since she put up the sketches.