Coronavirus in the US

There is a TON of misinformation and twisted facts about this outbreak on the internet already, enough for the social media cos to start fact-checking or warning readers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-51337357

I still think those who drank too much Corona 
 Beer is the most likely victim. So stop drinking on Superbowl Sunday. :slight_smile: :slight_smile:

Actually, I agree with @Sue22’s previous post. :slight_smile:

“I was at a large event in Mexico last week and someone had two bottles of Corona at once. He joked it was protection against the Coronavirus, and he may have been right - it prevented anyone from trying to shake his hand!”

Actually, there are exceptions. People flying into places other than the designated port of entry from China, not subject to any quarantine, nor checked for infections. Rules are apparently waived for certain people, and I will have exposure to some of them, though I’m going to avoid shaking peoples hands, and will wash my hands frequently.

Then again, I think it could be overkill to require quarantines from every single person who flies out of the entire country of China. I can understand Wuhan, but the entire country?

We were at a local winery yesterday, and Mr. joked that wineries are a good place to be because wine is at least 10% alcohol. The owner started laughing and joked that a sign “coronavirus protection sold here” could boost the business. Judging by the size of the wine tasting crowd, business was quite brisk.

People who have been to China in the past 14 days have to enter the US at one of the seven designated ports of entry. These Purdue students would have no other choice.

@1NJParent, I understand what you’re saying about the students, but my point is that there are other people for whom this requirement has been waived. So it isn’t everyone, there are plenty of people out there who have not been required to do that. It seems insane to me. If it’s everyone, then it should be everyone, not hey, no big deal for you guys
here’s some masks and hand sanitizer.

@BunsenBurner — For the sake of accuracy, I did fnd this, referring to sewer line transmission of SARS: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16696450

and this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC539564/

Again, not relevant in the US because of the way our drains are constructed, but it does appear to substantiate the claim that SARS was transmitted that way in one exceptional instance.

I agree with you that the notion that the current virus, or SARS, for that matter, could be transmitted that way in this country is ridiculous.

Who will be waived, @busdriver11, with the newly implemented policy? I’m curious for more details about what you are mentioning.

China will pump 150bn yuan ($21.6bn) into its economy tomorrow to help protect it from the impact of the coronavirus outbreak.

China’s central bank said it had taken the decision to maintain liquidity in the banking system and stabilise the currency market.

It comes as the country reopens its stock markets after extending its Lunar Holiday in a bid to curb the spread of infection.

Without being too specific, @doschicos, airline crew members are excluded from the White House orders. And for people that are included, who are “requested to self quarantine”, there is no enforcement out there whatsoever. I doubt many who are feeling just fine are going to quarantine themselves for two weeks.

Here are the 7 airports for flights from China under the new travel restrictions:
John F. Kennedy in New York, Atlanta, Chicago O’Hare, San Francisco, Seattle-Tacoma, Los Angeles and Honolulu.

Does make me wonder how they are getting these arrivees to the quarantine bases. One is in Texas and one is in Colorado so


US plans another evacuation flight scheduled to leave China Monday and possibly another some time soon due to demand.

I think that is one of the reasons many airlines stopped/are stopping flights. Hopefully, for those flight crews still traveling to China, they are follow very thorough procedures to minimize their risk of picking up and spreading the virus.

My DIL was telling us she got into a major argument/discussion with her boss over a China business trip in March. He told her she had to go, she said absolutely not and that she was willing to go above him to discuss it. The company this week sent out an announcement that no travel to Asia will be happening until further notice. DIL was also disappointed in many co workers lack of concern for their China coworkers many who have young children and aging parents.

From what I’ve heard, flight crews have been staying at their hotels in China during layovers when possible, and the companies are minimizing layover time. Major US pax carriers are stopping service but cargo carriers continue in and out of China. Massive volumes of freight come out of there. This is just one group of people, and I’d lay odds there are many groups of people who are exempt.

@busdriver11 Perhaps they should put two crews on one plane so they could minimize time on the ground. I know it would add to cost but wouldn’t that be doable?

Any pushback from unions like there was with passenger carriers?

@doschicos, there are a number of things that they could do, however it all costs money. Putting double the crews on each flight into China would be very expensive, and possibly not even contract legal to have excessively long duty days, depending upon where they’re flying in from. Plus the fact that most airlines just don’t have that many extra crewmembers. There are ways they can revise trips, but it all comes down to cost. One person said he complained about a long China layover, and they decided to ground transport them to Hong Kong, noting the border crossing was unusually quick. The unions are extremely quiet about this so far, but the crewmembers seem to be taking responsibility for things on their own. It will be interesting to see what happens. Hopefully everyone will stay well and this is just fear. Does seem like a little much to shut down the entire country.

Little late but had to share since people were talking about alcohol upthread. My friend works in a lab and the lab next to her works in alcohol-related stuff so they like to make alcohol jokes/puns.

Someone yesterday said “Who wants lyme (disease) with their corona (virus)?” She told me and I felt bad for laughing.

Edit: The mandatory quarantine is only for US citizens coming from Hubei. I have other thoughts about this but they’d quickly turn political so I’m going to bite my tongue. Needless to say, the tl;dr is that I think this is a useless measure.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/02/us/coronavirus-us-travel-restrictions/index.html

Officials said Sunday that a 9th case of the new coronavirus has been confirmed in the U.S. - a woman in Santa Clara County, California.

The woman is a visitor to Santa Clara County and came to the area on Jan. 23 to visit family. She had been in the Wuhan area.

"She has stayed home since arriving, except for two occasions where she sought outpatient medical care, and “has been regularly monitored and was never sick enough to be hospitalized,” according to the news release.

The woman’s family members have also been isolated and have not left their home, according to the county, while the Public Health Department has provided food and other necessary items." (Mercury News)

As the U.S. steps up its response to the coronavirus outbreak, the Department of Homeland Security is warning airline passengers that their flights may wind up rerouted if officials discover mid-flight that someone onboard has been in China in the last 14 days.

That guidance was included in a notice released by the department Sunday as new travel restrictions officially go into effect for flights commencing after 5 p.m. EDT.

Under the new rules, U.S. citizens who have travelled in China within the last 14 days will be re-routed to one of seven designated airports, where they will undergo enhanced health screening procedures. (Global News Canada)

In Wuhan:

"Under a new rule that took immediate effect, the government said anyone suspected of being infected with the virus or having been in close contact with a confirmed case would be relocated to a dedicated quarantine centre, whether they liked it or not.
“Patients shall cooperate,” it said in a statement. “Whoever refuses to cooperate will be subject to enforcement by the police.”

It did not say how many quarantine sites there were, where they were located or how many people would be affected.

However, while in the centres, patients would not be charged for their medical treatment, food or accommodation, but would be required to remain for as long as was deemed necessary by the medical staff looking after them, the statement said.

Adding to the pressure on the province’s doctors and nurses, Hubei governor Wang Xiaodong has ordered all hospitals and labs to complete the testing of all their existing samples within the next two days.

To help offset some of the demand, the new Huoshenshan Hospital in Wuhan, which took just eight days to build, is set to open on Monday. It will be staffed by 1,400 medical workers deployed by the military at the direct order of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

As medical workers continue to treat the tens of thousands of people affected by the outbreak, scientists from the Third People’s Hospital in the south China city of Shenzhen said they had found traces of the new virus in the faeces of some infected patients.

Health authorities had previously thought that the primary way for the disease to spread was through respiratory droplet transmission and contact, including people touching their faces after exposure to a surface contaminated with the virus. But the discovery in Shenzhen suggests there may be other ways for the deadly contagion to move from one person to another."(SCMP)