Coronavirus in the US

According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries, the number of cases outside of China are now greater than the cases in China. 162,392 reported worldwide, 80,849 in China.

Seems like a major milestone.

My twitter feed last night was filled with 2 things – the overcrowded airports and masses of young people in bars in major cities. It is obvious that NY, Chicago, DC, etc. need to close bars.

I’m sure there are tons of people around who still think this whole thing is “Fake News”.

I don’t think the motivation is selfishness at least for some. I think it is that they doubt the seriousness of the situation. At least I would like to think that is the case. The me first and who cares if I set off a chain of infections that kills people isn’t in their minds, I’m pretty sure.

How many times the reported number of cases do you think there actually are in the country given the lack of available testing? I have no idea but I think it must be considerably higher.

Really, Gov. Pritzker (Illinois). YOU have the authority to close the Illinois DMV offices. So before you point fingers YOU do something. My dad still has to go to the DMV offices to get his license renewed. New Jersey’s governor issued automatic extensions for license renewals. YOU should too.

We have a second case in San Antonio. It is supposed to be from foreign travel and not community spread. Meanwhile, the mayor was pictured eating out at a nearly empty place and urging calm. IMHO, and I am labeling it as such, he does the right thing, but is sometimes a half step behind. He was saying Fiesta would not be cancelled up until the day before he cancelled it. He is trying to keep calm and order and protect people’s livelihoods, but knows this is a serious public health crisis. He did fight the feds vigorously when they were not careful in handling our evacuees. We got drive through testing quickly. When we get our first community spread case, I think things will get real. And yes, I do think it is already happening.

I am interested in some myth busting. Some older friends have sent me a few of those “this will keep you safe” emails involving gargling vile concoctions or taking deep breaths. One did send out a correction within a few hours.

Son is here from a border town in the Rio Grande Valley. He says their stores have no TP or Purell, but otherwise life goes on normally. He was surprised at the degree of concern we have here in the big city. On the way north, he drives thru an internal border checkpoint. Line was longer than normal, but no additional testing or questions.

I wasn’t that scared before when I watched what happened and knew it was coming to our country but what scared me was seeing our country not prepare and do what it should. What scared me more was reading comments by people who showed they don’t understand the seriousness of the situation. Half of my coworkers planning to fly to various places in a few weeks for April break scares me. This thread is very important to keep people educated and up to date on things and I appreciate it being here.

This is the $64,000 question (dating myself there).

China treated people by oxyegenating (sp?) their blood outside their bodies in tubes. Apparently this is very cutting edge stuff and it worked well and greatly improved survival rates so people didn’t suffocate when their lungs were filled. From what I understand, this type of treatment isn’t nearly as available if at all in the US. The fatality rate for older people goes up and up and over 70 and over 80 are significant fatality rates. Worse than SARS from what I understand and so people should be careful.

This is what I mean when I say our country isn’t doing a good job with this.

I think many Americans think this can’t happen here. They still haven’t wrapped their heads around how serious and real this is.

Here is a wonderful interactive graphic tool showing how contagion spreads, and how different strategies affect the extent of the spread and the shape of the spike in cases.

It works “live” each time you try it but the general shape of the spikes relates closely to the action taken in the exercise. They call the disease, simulitis.

Please share it with doubting friends and family members so they can see the great benefits of social distancing!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/?itid=hp_hp-top-table-main_virus-simulator520pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory-ans

Thank you for posting this! It’s a great visual!

Dr. Tom Frieden, former CDC director, on CNN: Now that we know the virus is spreading, no need for everyone to get tested; emphasis must be on slowing the spread.

Note he accounts for this in saying if only 5% need intensive care. He also is not accounting for all of the “normal” things (like heart attacks) in that 5% so is minimizing the numbers.

It’s not trite nor the least bit misleading. It’s reality.

The only thing that can help is lowering that number by less spreading of the virus and extending the time of those affected (flattening the curve) so they don’t all need the 25 beds at the same time.

Shut things down and help your neighbor. The economy will recover. Many people won’t.

@TatinG… Errr… Don’t think our Governor is reading this thread… Lol. But I bet they will read your opinion or answer your phone call. You should voice your opinion and I never thought about it but it’s a great point https://www2.illinois.gov/sites/gov/contactus/Pages/default.aspx

I personally think he’s doing a great job and like the vast cooperation with the new Chicago Mayor. Crazy that State and City governments can actually work together
. Haven’t seen that here in many years and it’s refreshing.

I already emailed the Illinois Sec of State’s office. No reply.

It’s infuriating that lots of people want to criticize but they themselves are doing nothing or little to nothing.

I have friends who are still not cancelling flying vacation plans for April. Some are still not social distancing at all.

That old phrase - "if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem’.

Person on MSNBC, in contrast, says we do need to keep testing, so we know whether we’re flattening the curve.

2nd death in Louisiana. Both were men in their 50s who were being treated at Touro hospital. There was a man interviewed there a few days ago, “Gene”, and I wonder if he has died. He was a taxi or Uber driver.

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-patient-at-touro-hospital-talks-about-his-symptoms/289-4b7897db-ab0c-4228-81d6-75a4819fa589

GERMANY - 924 new cases totaling 4,599 and 1 new death totaling 9.

FRANCE - 808 new cases totaling 4,469 and 12 new deaths totaling 91.

USA - 589 new cases totaling 2,836 and 8 new deaths totaling 57.

SWITZERLAND - 236 new cases totaling 1,375 and 2 new deaths totaling 13.

UK - 343 new cases totaling 1,140 and 10 new deaths totaling 21.

For a while, I have been looking at the numbers and wondering, why so few deaths in Germany, in relation to the case numbers and compared with the numbers in other countries? For weeks, the testing regime has been a shambles. Is the medical system doing something right by now, or counting something wrong? I can’t wrap my head around it.

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/how-big-will-the-coronavirus-outbreak-get-this-bellevue-scientist-is-figuring-that-out/