Coronavirus in the US

Just as illegal immigrants do not get most of our benefits such as EBT, Federal college money, unemployment , social security, MedicAID, etc. Why would we be giving them a stimulus payout? The last two payouts under such bills did not. Given the current direction we have been going regarding illegal resident, it seems to me highly unlikely this would happen.

An interesting question is whether American citizen or otherwise legal in this country children of illegal resident parents would be eligible for the $500 payment per child.

Personally, I don’t think it’s particularly useful to compare positive cases counts versus the other countries. I don’t trust their totals, except for fatalities, are accurate.

We are testing so many more people now. Which is what we all want.

The number that’s not posted here and I’ll try to find is the Total tested population in the USA.

Then look at -

Total negative.
Total positive.
Total hospitalized.
Total fatalities.

There’s a success percentage to be found there ultimately.

We also thankfully can never know how bad it could be without some of the measures taken to date.

And hopefully the stay at home and social isolating will truly help as Fauci and others put together in the Presidents 15 day plan.

In my state it’s a ghost town driving around. It seems like the vast majority of people get that it’s important.

https://covidtracking.com/data/?from=timeline&isappinstalled=0

This website has been tracking testing, to the best of its ability given state reporting. It’s imperfect data but the best I’ve seen thus far.

Top of the page.

Positive 64,180
Negative 357,405
Hospitalized 6,136
Death 900
Total test results 472,820 total Positive + Negative

Somewhere up-thread, the question as to how Italy was counting deaths was raised.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/have-many-coronavirus-patients-died-italy/?fbclid=IwAR0QkEmrIJHo575gU86SUiUpntWD3wD0xoJlnzZ34Ebs8uKmh_jqlNgVnrw
Think the above translates to: “you are much more likely to be a fatality, if you were only a prescription re-fill away from being one.”

Interesting but as we know, people still are not getting tested who would if they were in the same situation in many other countries, so we don’t really have good data yet. Our state is not testing anyone but the sickest because we still do not have enough tests. I don’t understand how this can be the case on March 25, which is more than 3 months since top infectious disease specialists knew this was going out of control in China. I wonder what the real numbers are.

@doschicos thank you. It’s hard to keep up. Those numbers are very useful. I like the trend in testing as one positive at this moment.

Coronavirus patients are starting to overwhelm US hospitals
From CNN’s Michael Nedelman

“We ended up getting our first positive patients – and that’s when all hell broke loose,” said one New York City doctor.

The doctor, who spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity out of concern for his job, described a hospital that was woefully unprepared for an influx of Covid-19 patients that started roughly two weeks ago – which has already stretched the hospital’s resources thin and led to severely ill patients outnumbering ventilators.

“We don’t have the machines, we don’t have the beds,” the doctor said.

“To think that we’re in New York City and this is happening,” he added. “It’s like a third-world country type of scenario. It’s mind-blowing.”

At first, patients skewed toward the 70-plus age group, but in the past week or so there have been a number of patients younger than 50.

“I don’t think they understand the severity of this disease,” the doctor said of the younger patients.

“Two weeks ago, life was completely different.”

Increasing capacity
Public health experts, including US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams, have warned the US could “become Italy,” where doctors in hospitals filled with Covid-19 patients have been forced to ration care and choose who gets a ventilator.

But the US may already be seeing the beginnings of this in some areas, marking a new stage of the nation’s outbreak.

“The reality is that what we’re seeing right now in our emergency rooms is dire,” said Dr. Craig Spencer, director of global health in emergency medicine at NewYork-Presbyterian/Columbia University Medical Center in New York City.

“Last week when I went to work, we talked about the one or two patients amongst the dozens of others that might have been a Covid or coronavirus patient,” Spencer told CNN’s Anderson Cooper Tuesday. "In my shift yesterday, nearly every single patient that I took care of was coronavirus, and many of them extremely severe. Many were put on breathing tubes. Many decompensated quite quickly.

“There is a very different air this week than there was last week.”

Officials in New York state are pushing hospitals across the state to increase capacity. The state is home to more than 6% of the world’s confirmed cases so far – and roughly half of all US cases.

In New York City, plans are also underway to build emergency hospitals and backfill other hospitals with 1,000 beds in the Javits Center, according to New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. In addition, thousands of doctors and nurses, who are either retired or no longer see patients, have signed up as a “surge health care force,” Cuomo said Wednesday.

There are simultaneous effort to procure ventilators for the most severe patients. According to Cuomo, New York has procured 7,000 ventilators in addition to 4,000 already on hand, and the White House said Tuesday that the state would receive two shipments of 2,000 machines this week from the national stockpile. But the state needs 30,000, Cuomo said.

The Strategic National Stockpile said Wednesday that it held approximately 16,660 ventilators before the coronavirus response, and ventilators have been deployed over the past few days.

“An outbreak, a pandemic like this could overwhelm any system in the world,” warned Dr. Anthony Fauci, the United States’ top infectious disease expert. Without enough ventilators, “that’s when you’re going to have to make some very tough decisions.”

Cuomo also described the extreme measures hospitals are planning to take to increase their capacity for patients who need intensive care.

“We’re going so far as to trying an experimental procedure where we split the ventilator,” Cuomo said Tuesday. “We use one ventilator for two patients. It’s difficult to perform, it’s experimental, but at this point we have no alternative.”

‘Exceptionally chaotic’
It’s not just New York that’s feeling the pressure. Hospitals across the country are seeing a surge of patients, a shortage of personal protective equipment such as masks and gowns, and health care workers who feel that they, their families and their patients are being put at risk.

Several nurses around the country also spoke to CNN on condition of anonymity, also fearing they could lose their jobs.

One ER nurse in Virginia described her hospital as “exceptionally chaotic,” with an emergency department where potential Covid-19 patients were sitting next to patients with other health conditions.

“You have an elderly couple that is having chest pain sitting right next to someone who has a cough and flu,” she said. “I think that’s extremely reckless.”

She said she hadn’t hugged her daughter since the outbreak started, for fear she may pass anything on to her.

Another nurse in Georgia said she was repeatedly denied testing, even as her own symptoms worsened over the course of a week. The nurse, who had cared for several patients who died of pneumonia but were never tested for Covid-19, was finally tested Tuesday – the same day she was admitted to the hospital and put in isolation.

“It was not until this morning that I could finally be tested,” she said as she gasped for breath between heavy coughs. “It is insane. And it’s infuriating. You feel you have to scream to even be heard.”

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@suteiki77 the other countries in the world have the same issues. Our testing numbers will end up dwarfing those seen elsewhere. Imho It’s been a huge spike. Closing in on 500k tests is a big number and it seems to be ramping up.

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Judy Sheridan-Gonzalez, an ER nurse at Montefiore Medical Center and president of the New York State Nurses Association, said that “everybody is terrified” about becoming infected because many lack the proper protective gear, and many are being told to reuse the same mask between multiple patients.

Sheridan-Gonzalez said she fears not having enough ventilators or staff to take care of everyone, but it hasn’t “hit that level yet” at her hospital.

Similarly, one New York City private hospital executive, who requested anonymity, told CNN that “many hospitals believe they are covered on ventilators. That doesn’t mean some are not.”

Still, the shortage of personal protective equipment continues to impact his and other hospitals.

For Sheridan-Gonzalez, the risk of becoming infected amid a shortage of masks and gowns is all too real.

“We feel an obligation to take care of our patients. Everybody does. But we don’t want to become sick and we also don’t want to become carriers,” she said. “In my own hospital – and I don’t think it’s unique – we have a nurse who is on a ventilator right now who contracted the virus.”

If the virus takes out health care workers, “it’s game over. It’s lights out,” Dr. Peter Hotez, professor and dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine at Baylor College of Medicine, previously told CNN.

“If we have multiple frontline health care workers, ER physicians, nurses go down in this epidemic – a situation where you have colleagues taking care of colleagues in the intensive care unit – there’s nothing more destabilizing for the United States.”

Flattening the curve
The capacity of US health systems is at the core of the effort to “flatten the curve” – to spread out the number of infections over time through measures such as social distancing.

The goal: to prevent hospitals from seeing a massive spike of patients arriving around the same time.

On Tuesday, President Donald Trump said he wanted the nation “opened up and just raring to go by Easter,” which is April 12 – a date that few health experts believe will be sufficient to contain the spread of coronavirus.

Earlier this month, Fauci said “it probably would be several weeks or maybe longer before we know whether we had an effect” on flattening the curve, and on Tuesday he emphasized the need to be “flexible” in the timeline Trump laid out.

“Obviously, no one is going to want to tone down things when you see things going on like in New York City,” Fauci said Tuesday.

Some in New York don’t foresee the outbreak abating anytime soon.

On Wednesday, Cuomo said he expects to see peak numbers of patients in approximately 21 days, based on current projections.

“We’re really at the beginning of this outbreak,” said NewYork-Presbyterian’s Spencer. “And you can feel that. You can sense that. It’s palpable on the front lines in the emergency department.”

In a series of tweets early Tuesday, Spencer urged people to practice social distancing in order to save lives: "We were too late to stop this virus. Full stop. But we can slow it’s spread.

“Hospitals are nearing capacity. We are running out of ventilators,” he said. “Ambulance sirens don’t stop.”

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/25/health/coronavirus-covid-hospitals/index.html

[ God forbid one needs a hospital for anything right now. Stay home, be safe in all you do. ]

Bolivia declares nationwide lockdown and state of emergency, closes all borders
From CNN’s Gloria Carrasco in Bolivia and Tatiana Arias in Atlanta

Bolivia’s interim president declared a state of emergency and nationwide lockdown on Wednesday, to go into effect on Thursday at midnight.

It will last through April 15, said interim president Jeanine Anez.

In an address to the nation late Wednesday, Anez said Bolivians hadn’t followed the government-ordered mandatory quarantine measures – so the risk of infection is now higher, and needs more stringent containment measures.

All borders will be closed, and no public or private vehicles will be allowed to travel except for certain essential reasons.

“No one leaves, nor does anyone enter the country, except for security and health reasons,” said Anez.

Nobody is allowed to leave their homes at all on weekends, when “all outings are prohibited” except for medical or security emergencies, she said.

During the week, one person per household between the ages of 18-65 are allowed to go outside to buy groceries. This designated shopper will be assigned a weekday, and can only go outside on that day, according to a communique from the Bolivian state-news agency ABI, citing Anez.

Bolivia now has 39 cases of the coronavirus and no deaths, according to the health authorities.

The virus could be more widespread in the US, and we need more testing, expert says
From CNN’s Jen Christensen

The US hasn’t conducted enough tests to know how widespread the coronavirus is, warned Dr. William Schaffner, an infectious diseases professor at Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

While there are coronavirus "hot spots” and “warm spots” in the country, there are also other spots such as Nashville that are “warming up,” he told CNN.

“I’m sure that this virus is just about everywhere – but how dense it is, how widespread it is, we don’t know yet," Schnaffer said. "We haven’t tested sufficiently. If we could test a lot more, we would have a much better idea of how distributed this virus is.”
He added that there needs to be much more testing for both public health and clinical reasons – not to mention, there is real anxiety among the public, who want to know if they pose a risk to others.

“They are concerned for their own families, and other people they come in contact with,” Schaffner said. “And of course, this expectation has been raised, because people have been told, ‘if you want to test, you can get it.’"

Senate rejects unemployment amendment, is now voting on final passage of stimulus bill
From CNN’s Clare Foran, Ted Barrett, Manu Raju and Kristin Wilson

The US Senate is now voting on the massive $2 trillion stimulus package to deliver relief to an economy hard hit by coronavirus.

It needs to clear a 60-vote threshold to pass and will next head to the House.

Amendment fails: Right before this vote, the Senate had voted down an amendment from Republican Senator Ben Sasse that would have capped unemployment benefits at 100% of the wages workers received while employed.

Sanders rips into GOP senators: Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders lambasted Republican senators who had supported Sasse’s amendment over concerns that the bill’s provisions would incentivize unemployment.

“What happened is Sen. (Lindsey) Graham and some other Republicans, they are just terribly upset that low-income workers might receive a bit more money than they otherwise would have earned,” Sanders told CNN, before the chamber voted on the bill.

“Here we are in the midst of the worst economic downturn perhaps since the Great Depression, tens of millions of people are worried to death about how they’re going to feed their families, pay their rent, prevent a foreclosure,” Sanders added. “And these guys are just staying up nights worrying about low-income workers getting a few bucks more.”

Breaking: Historic US $2tn coronavirus pandemic relief bill passes 100-0
Senate majority leader McConnell is speaking on the senate floor now.

The package has been passed 100-nothing.

The US senate vote comes as coronavirus-related deaths in the US pass 1,000.

eta: CNN reports the vote is 96-0, with four senators absent but nobody opposed.

Some but other countries also got testing going really quickly as well. Our population is very large. We are nowhere close to the testing numbers of South Korea for example. The trouble is that there aren’t enough and weren’t enough at the crucial time. There are not enough still even now. Too bad. We could have had a far smaller number of cases had enough test kits sooner and other things going from as soon as we ideally would have.

World Health Organization executive director praises Trump’s leadership in response to Coronavirus pandemic.

By Barnini Chakraborty

“The head of the World Health Organization on Wednesday praised President Trump for his leadership in handling the novel coronavirus outbreak and said the president is “taking responsibility” for leading the United States’ response to the global pandemic.

WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said the United Nations health agency has repeatedly called for the heads of state to lead a “whole of government” response to COVID-19 and said Trump was leading by example.

That’s exactly what he’s doing, which we appreciate because fighting this pandemic needs political commitment," Tedros said during an afternoon press briefing in Geneva.

Tedros instructed countries that have locked down their populations to prevent the spread of COVID-19 to use the time to “find and attack the virus.”

Asking people to stay at home and shutting down population movement is buying time, and reducing pressure on health systems. On their own, these measures won’t extinguish epidemics," he said.

Nations need to expand, train and deploy their health care and public health workers, Tedros said, and encouraged them to ramp up testing and track down every suspected case of the coronavirus within their borders.

According to Johns Hopkins University, the global death toll has surpassed the 20,000 mark.

The WHO has been under fire for waiting for weeks before declaring the coronavirus outbreak a global pandemic. It then raised the ire of many countries including the United States by praising China for its handling of the coronavirus.”

Barnini Chakraborty is a senior feature writer for Fox News.

Our state said they believed we had almost 90 times more cases than the tested numbers last week due to lack of testing. Who the heck knows how many cases we have?

@suteiki77

You’re right. I think it’s so many more. Especially since so many have few symptoms at all. I don’t have the answers to be honest. I just think it’s headed in the right direction at this time in terms of resources.

Spain is extending its state of emergency
From CNN’s Mia Alberti in Lisbon and Tatiana Arias in Atlanta

The Spanish government voted to extend the current state of emergency until April 12 as the country continues to grapple with one of the world’s most severe novel coronavirus outbreaks.

Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez said the decision was “a new sacrifice for all,” but essential to “gain time” to allow hospitals to take care of patients and investigators to develop a vaccine.

“Social isolation is the only way to stop this virus,” he said.
Sánchez said stricter measures regarding freedom of movement would be put in place, but people would still be allowed to go out and buy groceries and medicine. He said all essential industries would continue to work.

As of 10:30 p.m. ET, Spain had identified more than 49,500 coronavirus patients, according to a tally by Johns Hopkins University. The country’s death toll surpassed that of mainland China on Wednesday, trailing only Italy. At least 3,647 have died.

Here’s a video of that Trump presser earlier today, in which the US president attacked the media (Guardian)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=64&v=aPWyPGk5iBc&feature=emb_logo

The Senate “relief bill” passed with 95+ votes. (didn’t get the final vote count). House set to vote Friday at 10AM.

It looks like 1200 to all (?) adults who make < 75k (couples - 150k), as long as they filed taxes. +500 per dependent.

Unemployment compensation up to $600 more per week to help missing compensation.

And then a lot of stuff for businesses that I haven’t dug into.

WHO seems to be pandering.

But FINALLY the senate passed the stimulus bill!

The Senate voted unanimously on Wednesday to approve a sweeping, $2 trillion fiscal measure to shore up the United States economy as it weathers the devastation of the coronavirus pandemic, advancing the largest fiscal stimulus package in modern American history.

The House was expected to quickly take up the bill on Friday and pass it, sending it to President Trump for his signature.

The legislation would send direct payments of $1,200 to Americans earning up to $75,000 – which would gradually phase out for higher earners and end for those with incomes more than $99,000 — and an additional $500 per child. It would substantially expand jobless aid, providing an additional 13 weeks and a four-month enhancement of benefits, extending them for the first time to freelancers and gig workers and adding $600 per week on top of the usual payment.

The measure would also provide $350 billion in federally guaranteed loans to small businesses and establish a $500 billion government lending program for distressed companies reeling from the impact of the crisis, allowing the administration to take equity stakes in airlines that received aid to help compensate taxpayers. It would also send $100 billion to hospitals on the front lines of the pandemic.

The bill was the product of intense bipartisan negotiations among Republicans, Democrats and the White House. Three senators were absent from the late-night roll call because of the novel coronavirus. Senator Rand Paul, Republican of Kentucky, has contracted Covid-19, while two Utah Republicans, Senators Mitt Romney and Mike Lee, were in self-isolation out of an abundance of caution after spending time with Mr. Paul. Senator John Thune of South Dakota, the second-ranking Republican, also missed the vote because he wasn’t feeling well and had left Washington to return home out of an abundance of caution, a spokesman said.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/25/world/coronavirus-news-live.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage