Coronavirus in the US

You can see the prevalence of high blood pressure in the population by age, here.

https://www.heart.org/idc/groups/heart-public/@wcm/@sop/@smd/documents/downloadable/ucm_319587.pdf

By age 75, over 75 percent have it. 72 percent men, 80 percent women. But men die at higher rates. I think in order to understand causality as opposed to correlation, one would have to isolate deaths in the younger generation where high blood pressure isn’t so prevalent.

It may be true that the 80+ year olds dying in Italy all had at least one comorbidity, most of the two or three. But almost everyone over 80 has at least one comorbidity! It is just another way of saying that this virus carries away the old.

Edited to add that a nurse in one of my parents WhatsApp groups has described how they’re discussing whether to withhold ventilators from the 80+ group.

These things make my blood run cold.

Our parents and in-laws are just under 80.

What a tragedy. Lack of preparedness. Ignorance. Mismanagement. Poor leadership. Why do I hear echoes?

And yet an ARB (losartan) is being tested as a potential covid-19 treatment at the Univ. of Minnesota. It is all so confusing!
https://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/news/2020/03/24/the-university-of-minnesota-bets-on-three.html

@CTTC. Both drugs that are for blood pressure have different modes of treatment and affects on the body. But the general public just hears the term “Blood pressure medicine” and gets worried. Really hope during this time of higher stress that people just don’t stop taking their medicine.

Not sure, consult your doctor.

My son took took two Southwest Airlines flights yesterday to get back to Maine from Texas, where he had been working as a caregiver for my dad in hospice. The first flight had 17/175 seats filled, the second 12/175. He was scheduled to come home Sunday but I moved up his trip up since everything has been changing so quickly.

He has criticized the US for its slow response to the crisis yet balked when I told him measures we wanted him to take when he got home (leaving his stuff in the car overnight, stripping out of clothes, taking a shower immediately, etc.). He said, “I don’t have the virus!” Sigh.

@MaineLonghorn. Tell him I am going to my medical office today. Seeing patients that need to come in. I normally wear a shirt and tie but since this started I am wearing my surgical scrubs. Much easier to take off when I get home and shower right away. Many doctors believe that a warm - hot shower helps deter the virus. Also hot liquids like tea helps to decrease it in the back of your throat etc. If coming from especially an airport he needs to get more serious about this. Even just coming in from the outside he should go directly and wash his hands.

But I get it. I have kids also.

At least he complied without grumbling anymore. He has to self quarantine for two weeks before getting a job as a caregiver. He figures he may as well do that type of work now that he has experience in it. A family friend is hiring him because she said there is a shortage of male caregivers. He knows he’s lucky to get a job during this time.

Scary time to be a caregiver though.

IN releases # 10 am daily.

Cases 645 increase of 168
Dead 14 increase of 3
Tests 4651

So, 13.9% are testing positive (this number has held or been higher for a week)
2.6% of positives are dead

So many sick people in this state trying to get tests, and can’t. It’s very sad to read all the responses from residents in the various counties .

Is the higher than normal positive tests/dead because we aren’t testing enough? Hope so.

@MaineLonghorn. Much respect to him for wanting to be a caregiver. Is this the same lad that worked with refugees in Lebanon? If so, what is the status of his girlfriend.? … We are like one big family here ?

I did not see this coming, but I suppose I should have: https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/landlords-booting-out-nurses-over-coronavirus-fears-and-grocery-workers-could-be-next/

That’s not legal.

I remember reading somewhere (Lombardy, Spain?) this is already being done 60+.

In contrast to the US however, Spain has taken a much more aggressive course correction with a national lockdown.

Do you have concerns about him living at home while working given your husband’s age and health concerns?

Actually most of the comments are not political (partisan), they are about the character or motivation of individual public figures. Left or right, a particular politician might be especially modest, or vain, or prone to hyperbole, or whatever.

These people are just clueless. Indifferent to their own health (even with the Rand Paul example), and incapable of modeling good behavior to the public.

Why oh why can’t they vote via Skype or some secure platform? Why do they have to be live?

They just don’t understand the optics of it. Tell everyone to stay home but convine together without proper precautions. For them… It’s OK…

Clear as mud. We file a joint return. My annual income is less than $75,000 a year…but DHs is more than $99,000 a year.

Are they looking at individual incomes? Or total AGI for couples?

$150K for joint filing.


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How many 80 plus crowd with just basic medicare do you imagine get ventilated even on a good day? For acute resp failure with multiple co morbidities? There will be a good reason why you won’t have the access to data.

AGI?

Also, did they remove the low end restriction on these payments. At one point they were saying folks earning less than a certain amount would get $600.